US FIFTY - Classic Raiding done right - We need YOU!

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Definitely going to have to put my 110 on a slight hold to update my 50 for this!!!
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We're just starting to wind up you have some time.
 
We'll be doing quite a bit of pvp it looks like, the bg crate gear is looking pretty good for most of our slots. Your engi gear and heirlooms are honestly most of ipvp bis, just get like the rockx2 and problem solving pendant and you're good I think. There might be some gear here and there but it won't make too much difference. I really want to get into durnholde before it gets fixed, I'll be on today testing quite a bit
 
iPvP BiS aside, I think some of the PvP pieces are BiS for PvE as well. It's not a HUGE margin, but it IS BiS.
 
I renewed the fiftyraiding.com domain today. Was gonna expire tomorrow, figured I'd continue to hold it just in case like I have since 2011 :D

Is anyone gearing up their 50s for raiding yet? I know I'm geared, along with Thelse and one or two others. Would like to attempt a Molten Core in the next week if we have the numbers.
 
I'm gearing up my monk for dps and some decent healing and tanking gear for the moment. If things get rolling I'll get my druid tank going and bis out my monk for heals too
 
Gearing doesn't seem as interesting anymore with the exp/hit removal, sure there's still functioning +armor items but that's about it as a tank D:

Unless you forgot to gear with Legion Invasions you're pretty much BiS by default.
 
I just realized gnomes can be hunters now, I want to see a sonic booster proc'd aimed shot haha

And I'm actually having quite a bit fun gearing, spirit and other things turning into versatility is quite interesting and gear that was worthless before like "of the wolf" is now very compelling. There's also a game of what is more important, primary stats only or are there pieces that have enough of a favorable secondary stat that you're willing to drop a point or two. And a similar one with do I want to get my 5% bonus or wear armor below my requirement for the raw stats, like with hunters and leather, healers and cloth, tanks and the postmaster set bonus. Its not quite as fun as it used to be, but there's fun theorycrafting to do, that's just my opinion though. And I don't think any of us were active during the invasions, at least on our 50's. I feel like it's a pretty level playing field in that regard
 
Did invasions actually have BiS PvE gear? I'm actually gonna be fairly salty if that's the case. Anyone can confirm for certain what kind of drops it had for 50s?
 
You would've had a super small chance at ilvl65 with the same primary stats as an heirloom of that item level, and the same numbers for secondary stats but there were several pieces with mastery and none with vers. So for example based on the gear I got on my 20 and some digging on wowhead there was a 16 strength, 24 stamina, 11 crit and 11 haste chest compared to the heirloom with 15 strength 22 stamina and 20 crit, or the level 50 random enchanted "of stamina" green armor at 24 stamina. I think tanks lost out most of all due to the vanilla "of stamina" gear not scaling to the stamina increases of later expansions, but for most dps and healer slots I'd say of agility, strength, or intellect would still be your best bet. Theres also all of our high level engineering gear and the high level requiring enchants for gloves, shoulders and legs that edge them out by a long shot. I'd say at the most you missed chest, bracers, belt and feet, and we're talking a few points of stamina. It sucks quite a bit, I'm pretty salty I didn't get some myself haha but I don't think its gamebreaking for pve at all. The one thing that does really suck is if your spec did a lot of weapon damage based abilities those weapons had some pretty good speeds and damage ranges for your level, that's a pretty big one that I didn't consider until just now. The warforged mace I got on my 20 has a better damage range than my 3.8 reaper at only 3.6 speed and the titanforged version would be even more damage.
 
We're going to be testing tomorrow (about 16 hours from this post) and setting a date for our first Legion raid night.

Made us a discord for now, information will be posted there soon - https://discord.gg/YDcdYCB
 
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Would also like a new discord link as well. I have a 50 i found somewhere. just needs a clean coat of gear.

Hit me up on my btag is Fluffytorn#1717
 
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