f2p guild looms
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willix
Legend
I think you know what we meant. It's cheating because he is doing something that F2P accounts are not supposed to be capable of doing. Yes, a F2P account can upgrade to a P2P account and get all the same stuff as a P2P player.
But F2P account is supposed to be restricted in what they get. If one player exploits the game to get around those restrictions, he most certainly is cheating. The fact that a F2P player has guild BoA and/or P2P enchants is cheating, despite the idea that it's nothing a normal P2P can't get.
The problem is that other F2P cannot get them unless they also exploit the game (cheat) and most F2P players would not be able to pull off the exploit anyway simply because of the nature by which it's being done (relying on GMs). The rules of the game allow you to play for free up to level 20 without a sub fee or a trial period limit. You are supposed to pay for your game client and a sub fee if you want access to anything you can't get as a F2P.
Exploiting the game to get P2P stuff as a F2P is probably a bannable offense. Let's hope that the guy doesn't get reported and banned.
Because cheating is wrong.
Crystalpall
the F2P PvEr
I guess we all agree we hate 24s.
We also dislike 20 fully enchanted P2Ps.
100% F2Ps are fine and cool.
NOW:
How many times have you complained "omg this 24 has a mount/title/pet I can't have! None?
But If I ask how many times we complained about 24s face rolling us because they have GEAR and ENCHANTS we cannot obtain, the answer will be: many times.
But now, at F2P situation is changed;
You complain about Lil's shirt and achievements, but Don't complain about Kale's (only an example) or any F2Ps gear? If they proceed like this, GM-tricking F2Ps will become new 24s.
But for you it's cool, because they do it on trial?
We also dislike 20 fully enchanted P2Ps.
100% F2Ps are fine and cool.
NOW:
How many times have you complained "omg this 24 has a mount/title/pet I can't have! None?
But If I ask how many times we complained about 24s face rolling us because they have GEAR and ENCHANTS we cannot obtain, the answer will be: many times.
But now, at F2P situation is changed;
You complain about Lil's shirt and achievements, but Don't complain about Kale's (only an example) or any F2Ps gear? If they proceed like this, GM-tricking F2Ps will become new 24s.
But for you it's cool, because they do it on trial?
Lil
SV huntard
How does my P2P help effect others in bgs though? Only time my P2P help has effected others in bgs is when I queued with 24s but that stopped along time ago and that is the line for me.
says the person that called kale a F2P then called me a P2P? lol
This argument is boring me now though as the same thing is being said over and over.. EVERYONE not just me is arguing with anyone who doesn't agree with them. It's just based on opinions and my opinion is that with P2P chants and P2P boas kale (as well as anyone else who does this) is a P2P 20. No1 has the right to call me wrong because that is my opinion and it is a valid opinion. I have not called anyone wrong who has called me a P2P cause I get help I just voiced my opinion on that. We really need less people saying "lawl u supid u rong" and more people saying "I don't agree with that because ____ is my opinion".
I have voiced my opinion on it and some people agree with me and some don't... I no longer see the need to continue saying the same thing but I will say this. When you die to a 24 and complain about them having advantages then when you die to f2p with BoA boas/chants you should have the same response.
Goesid
Twink Info Legend
We don't complain on the shirts/achivments, I have them myself. Was merely stating it was the same concept. Please read before posting.
I have never said I was pro getting these things, rather the opposite. Seriously have you even read the thread because your posts makes no sense.
I have never said I was pro getting these things, rather the opposite. Seriously have you even read the thread because your posts makes no sense.
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Franciska
Legend
Wasn't that our point already? I don't understand the issue either.
Goesid
Twink Info Legend
They aren't reading posts and have already jumped to conclussions about what to say. The posts are just less true and looks more stupid the longer this thread goes on.
Dramatized
Legend
So, now, this is defined as cheating. It's funny how all twinks post-Cata has became so moral and ethical about all these "unfair advantages". Before, everyone had 450 mining, leg-, shoulder- and head enchants which weren't intended for twinks - and still it was used and let alone accepted by everyone in the twinking community. Two more recent examples are pyrium wep chain, which has been OP as hell for anyone that's able to have ToT on their target, or the engineering bug in early Cata which made 60s able to get engineering stuff that weren't intended.
Hell, even crusader, 15 agi, lifestealing aren't intended for anyone below level 60 - does that make every single twink (or leveler) an exploiter? No, it doesn't.
Somone who successfully gets their quest reward changed is, by your definition, an exploiter as well then, I guess? As, since Cata, it's against the GMs' rules to restore or swap quest rewards.
My point is that you need to be consistent in your bashing of "unintended" items or enchants, And this does not only apply to you, but to anyone - you can't say one unintended glitch/expolit/bug is okay, and hate on another exploit without looking like a fullblood hypocrite. Hell, if you were to be consistent you'd bash ppl with GF'd gear because they are having an unfair advantage over non-GF'd ppl - and I truly doubt you or anyone else would do that (except for in the 29 bracket ofc then).
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Crystalpall
the F2P PvEr
Eeeeeh.
1.Everyone could make a DK.
2. Of course we had arguments about it then
3. This bases on tricking GMs, so is not available for everyone
I give up. I am really bad partner for arguments, and I dont want to insult you guys by accident or taken by emotions. I just hope this will stay as minor thing, not very popular amongst F2Ps.
Lil
SV huntard
P2P= pay to play
F2P= free to play
P2P with P2P boas- paid account with boas obtained by paying blizz
F2P with F2P boas- free account with boas obtained by playing for free
F2P with P2P boas- free account with boas obtained by paying blizz
F2P with P2P help- free account with help from paying customers
Classify kale (or even myself) as whatever you'd like.. I can promise neither of us really care lol. I've tried staying mature and not resorting to dumb comments like ones I've read however I can't anymore with these recent ones.. Kale is on a F2P account with things only available to P2P accounts. If you find that acceptable or a F2P still good for you. I don't. I haven't said one person is wrong in this thread but have been told I'm wrong plenty of times so only think what the general public thinks guyz or else you're wrong!
[MENTION=16240]Goesid[/MENTION] ya I misread what you said. You called me a P2P but didn't say what you thought about kale. I was gonna post and say sorry for missreading you but your latter comments changed my mind
F2P= free to play
P2P with P2P boas- paid account with boas obtained by paying blizz
F2P with F2P boas- free account with boas obtained by playing for free
F2P with P2P boas- free account with boas obtained by paying blizz
F2P with P2P help- free account with help from paying customers
Classify kale (or even myself) as whatever you'd like.. I can promise neither of us really care lol. I've tried staying mature and not resorting to dumb comments like ones I've read however I can't anymore with these recent ones.. Kale is on a F2P account with things only available to P2P accounts. If you find that acceptable or a F2P still good for you. I don't. I haven't said one person is wrong in this thread but have been told I'm wrong plenty of times so only think what the general public thinks guyz or else you're wrong!
[MENTION=16240]Goesid[/MENTION] ya I misread what you said. You called me a P2P but didn't say what you thought about kale. I was gonna post and say sorry for missreading you but your latter comments changed my mind
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Goesid
Twink Info Legend
[MENTION=14218]Lil[/MENTION]
Kale isnt a P2P 20, he might be a douchebag, a cheater, a protadin but he isn't a P2P 20. I never called you a P2P I simply said by the same logic your using your should consider yourself a P2P aswell. There is nothing called pure or kosher but like [MENTION=16878]Adal[/MENTION] said. "Whatever floats your boat". So feel free to calling him a d-bag all you want but he is by no logic a P2P 20. P2P 20 alike perhaps but thats it.
Screw this I'm out.
Kale isnt a P2P 20, he might be a douchebag, a cheater, a protadin but he isn't a P2P 20. I never called you a P2P I simply said by the same logic your using your should consider yourself a P2P aswell. There is nothing called pure or kosher but like [MENTION=16878]Adal[/MENTION] said. "Whatever floats your boat". So feel free to calling him a d-bag all you want but he is by no logic a P2P 20. P2P 20 alike perhaps but thats it.
Screw this I'm out.
Franciska
Legend
God, you people sure aren't bright as you are mindlessly furious. It isn't even about the gear, its about the principle. He obtained items through the help of a P2P, so effing what. Is following a 90 smashing mobs in for rep because you can't do it on your own any more legit than this?
Jesus
Legend
Hypocritical considering you have achievements and items only available to P2P. Obvious examples include the ICC glitch and the DK glitch.
Kale was able to receive his BoAs due to an ignorant GM and you were able to receive your vanities through ignorant developers leaving bugs.
Either way, it doesn't matter. I don't really agree with the abusing but either way in the end if you're on a trial account you're still a F2P.
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Dramatized
Legend
I don't know if it crossed your mind, but, umm.. If someone publically shared it on an open forum, chances will only get slimmer.
Pixel
Legend
Although this thread is on its last legs...
Guys that are saying getting Precious Ribbon is principally the same as getting guild boas - you have yet to give a reasonable explanation of why.
If I strolled up to a lvl 85/90 in downtown Goldshire and politely asked him to somehow help me get/give me guild boas and was successful - that would be the same principal as getting Precious Ribbon.
Guys that are saying getting Precious Ribbon is principally the same as getting guild boas - you have yet to give a reasonable explanation of why.
If I strolled up to a lvl 85/90 in downtown Goldshire and politely asked him to somehow help me get/give me guild boas and was successful - that would be the same principal as getting Precious Ribbon.
