Conq
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I'm not sure that means it should be closed, natural order will have its way my friend.
Censorship and Butthurt needs to stop
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I'm not sure that means it should be closed, natural order will have its way my friend.
Mocha
Legendary
I agree with you 100%
It's unfair to have an imbalance between the CoC and the enforcement of it. It creates gray areas, biases and lack of consistency. However, seeing as how I've been moderator longer than anyone else in the history of TI, it's clear that I am very good at adhering to the CoC by now
Personally the CoC is FAR TOO STRICT for what the new owner is looking to do. The CoC has ALWAYS BEEN FAR TOO STRICT even when Shane was in order. It needs to be adjusted to fit what Myrm wants the lowest common denominator to be. I would much rather there be a less nazi CoC for the staff to adhere to because it's simply unreasonable and has always been unreasonable.
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Chainz
DND
Can't wait to log on TI tomorrow and see another page full of useless posts on this thread ^^
Tom Ganks
Guest
Can you all just shut the hell up and be productive and/or nice?
Mocha spoke for the rules. Plain and simple. It's unfortunate the new regulations do not call for the strictness it once stood for. But that is the ideology of our new site owner, and that must be respected.
If I hear any more shit directed at anyone, especially mocha (who has undoubtably prevented many troubles in the past with his enforcement), I will lock this thread. I honestly believe the message has gotten across already.
If you wish to debate, keep it proper and mature. Assuming you're mature enough to know what that means.
Mocha spoke for the rules. Plain and simple. It's unfortunate the new regulations do not call for the strictness it once stood for. But that is the ideology of our new site owner, and that must be respected.
If I hear any more shit directed at anyone, especially mocha (who has undoubtably prevented many troubles in the past with his enforcement), I will lock this thread. I honestly believe the message has gotten across already.
If you wish to debate, keep it proper and mature. Assuming you're mature enough to know what that means.
Hamcake
OG
hurr
Tom Ganks
Guest
Hypocritical much? Who exactly am I talking down to?
I'm telling people to get along.
Mocha
Legendary
I personally don't watch Anime but it seems to be an extremely popular market that is globally successful and extremely popular.
I don't get what that would have to do with one's ability to read the CoC and adhere to it?
Sounds like you simply don't have an argument and are reaching for any petty dialogue you can come up with.
Edit: Agonist asks that the butthurt be ceased. Please adhere to his request as it's the only logical request he has made.
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Conq
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Do you mean Myrm?
Jamesb
The OG Jamesb
I agree with you 100%
It's unfair to have an imbalance between the CoC and the enforcement of it. It creates gray areas, biases and lack of consistency. However, seeing as how I've been moderator longer than anyone else in the history of TI, it's clear that I am very good at adhering to the CoC by now
Personally the CoC is FAR TOO STRICT for what the new owner is looking to do. The CoC has ALWAYS BEEN FAR TOO STRICT even when Shane was in order. It needs to be adjusted to fit what Myrm wants the lowest common denominator to be. I would much rather there be a less nazi CoC for the staff to adhere to because it's simply unreasonable and has always been unreasonable.
thank you. I don't think your a bitch. just making a point. I love you mocha. in fact, I love all mochas.
Jamesb
The OG Jamesb
can you like change your picture and stop creaming that your gay? put it in ur bio or something not in ur signature
Barbarous
Grandfathered
Idk how you managed to type all that I threw that line out here for someone else
Thread is pointless and clear man vs world bait thread for some small amount of recognition on forums zzzz in his ban appeal he even tried to use how the threads he makes are #1 and good views etc idk why you guys are taking this serious
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Solipsist
They/Them
Honestly the fact you think Mocha has prevented any troubles on this site shows how delusional you are. We had 50 people in this community who signed to get rid of him. He destroyed this forum, and to say he followed any type of CoC is bullshit. He banned someone in the live chat box for having a conversation with friend and using the word ''fuck''. He bragged on skype that he was going to banhammer TI, he constantly ignored anything the community had to say. There are reasons why people don't like him. We don't just ''hate'' him out of the blue. You guys accuse me of being like a ''wall'' to talk to yet I don't see how alot of you mods are any different. I don't think you know what maturity is. If you are willing to lock this thread because of peoples ideas against Mocha, which are largely relevant to this thread, then you support censorship right off the bat.
Mocha
Legendary
I love you too and I have nothing against you or anyone at all in this community.
You just have to understand that the job that I agreed to do was to enforce the CoC as it was written whether I agreed with it or not. Myrm took over and everyone has been so chill since I was gone this summer that when I came back things had slipped SO far to complete and utter disregard for the CoC by the posters AND THE STAFF alike. I had made several points about this in the staff section and didn't really see anything but agreement that they noticed too how things have gotten out of hand. I told the staff that I was going to enforce the CoC as it was written as I had believed that was still my job and if theres anyone whom feels otherwise about that then to bring it to me and I would simply not take any action whatsoever. It was me trying to adapt to the new leadership and I had not received any change in mission statement whatsoever so I simply kept going with what the duty always has been, to enforce the CoC as it was written.
The reason why I have always enforced the CoC as it was written because I didn't want anything like this to happen. I didn't want all of these grey areas to come up and leniency issues and lack of consistency. It has always been very clear what WILL get you banned and what WILL get you infractions. I stuck to the CoC pretty damn well and it was pretty clear what the former owner wanted the site to be rid of. I didn't want a huge cloud of gray areas because that WILL lead to lack of constancy AND biases. I had to ban some of my friends for breaking the CoC. Now if there were more grey areas in the past when this happened, it would have been very easy for me to argue against banning my friends and only ban those whom were not my friends.
I always wanted, and still do want complete consistency with the CoC and the moderators. If the staff doesn't respect the CoC by not taking it seriously, why in the fuck would the users of the site? Now I personally didn't agree with how strict the CoC was and the version that I had typed up in 2011 was VERY fitting for the community back in 2011 but it quickly became antiquated as the community changed and it had never been altered to be less strict in the more recent years. I was asked to clean the site of all CoC breaches by Shane and I had definitely done my job at doing that. The reason why I was asked to moderate and do so was because it's clear that I don't care how many people like me, if I'm given a task to police a website, I'm going to do that even if everyone thinks I'm a Nazi. You can't really disagree with the moderators for enforcing the CoC. It's their job. You CAN however completely disagree WITH the CoC and be proactive about the situation and bring it up to the staff in private messages requesting they review the CoC and alter it to be less strict to cater more towards the current atmosphere of the community. It's actually something I remember trying to talk to Shane about several times. In the past year, I just said fuck it and stopped taking the CoC seriously because people had stopped being problematic. You can ask [MENTION=65]Pizza[/MENTION] about how chill I've been about the CoC in the past year.
Now when I came back after some time off to see the site COMPLETELY trashed with people telling each other to slit their wrists calling each other pussies and faggots etc, THAT became a problem because EVEN WHEN I stopped giving a fuck about the CoC and was extremely chill with the CoC, the policy had been that it's okay to curse, just not insulting someone. (For example, it's okay for me to say I didn't give a fuck about the CoC, but it's not okay for me to tell you that you're a fucking retard). That was the way the site was handling cursing and insulting up until I left for tour and upon returning I had noticed that staff stopped enforcing that barrier too.
I apologize for coming back and assuming that the staff was still looking to prevent people from cursing at each other and I had noticed no one was really doing anything about it so I told them that I would start taking the CoC more seriously and for someone to simply tell me otherwise and I would not proceed. I had actually created several staff section posts in attempt to get in contact with Myrm to see how he felt before I did anything and after hearing 0 responses for awhile, I kept handling reports and the issues were clear in the reports that someone needed to lay down the law and stop people from bashing others.
I had assumed that the policy had not changed and that it was a moderator's duty to adhere to the CoC so I went ahead with giving out two infractions of blatant CoC violations in attempt to prevent the trash talking from continuing. Wake up the next day after giving you an infraction (when the CoC says its a 2 week ban) and I read a PM that I'm being removed.
Just my side of MANY things that I believe have been taken in the wrong direction.
Mocha
Legendary
Funny thing is Kancer kept posting gay porn as his signature a few years ago and I had given him 3 warnings followed by several infractions until I ended up banning him.
Funnier thing is that the whole time Pizza was telling him to stop or he'd get banned.
That's why Kancer hates me. Quite comical.
imacheeser
Legend
I personally believe this thread IS going somewhere. Its sheading light on those who abuse their powers and think they can get away with it. People like super, laurasia, roboartist, and all the rest of the fucking retarded dickbutts. They need to realize that without us they are nothing. Without the people who participate on this forum page they will literally be nothing, because we all know they suck in game. So my point is that this thread is actually showing the people that these mods/admins need to be removed of their powers asafp because they are abusing what they have and everyone has had enough. Give them the D and get rid of them. OFF WITH ALL THEIR HEADS!!!
Mocha
Legendary
This thread was created after I had been demoted. This thread has very little to do with me. The only time my name was mentioned was really Sanitarium or whatever his name is and then James (even though it's pretty clear that I was doing my job in his case)
If I really were as much of the issue with this thread as possible, this thread wouldn't have been made and wouldn't have been carried past page one.
You got a list of 50 people who don't like me. Congrats. I could build an even bigger list of people whom don't like me either. What you really got was a list of 50 people who don't like the CoC and definitely don't like it when a moderator enforces it as it was written as I defy you to come up with examples of me acting on someone's account that was not backed by the CoC. Good luck!
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