EU+US Bracket integration next xpack

[Arlaren]

I've tried everything short of a pop-up book, so I think that venue is a lost hope.

Their arguments are like people creating gods to explain things like rain and sunrise because their primitive brains can’t comprehend abstract concepts. WE DONT UNDERSTAND SO HOW CAN WE KNOW UNTIL NEW XPAC.


EVEN IF I’m somehow wrong (spoiler; I’m not), the primary stat disparity between 310/333/343 gear is SO MASSIVE vs 240/265 gear, that even if your secondary % were at 100%, you wouldn’t make a dent in a geared 119. Legit, give a 110 200% haste and 100% crit and you’d still get globaled. The primary stat you gain from 110 being scaled up 9 levels is a drop in the bucket before you start arguing that angle.

 

[norcal313]

edit- I mean... you guys do recall there being templates in legion, right? So this xpac is different inside BG?

101 had WAY better secondaries than 109 outside tho, how can you possibly not see the similarity? Not understand? Why didn't anyone twink PvE at 109? Because the same armor (101 BoE) at 109 gave you WAY less stats.... OMG how bizarre!

ALMOST like the exact same thing happening here! What craziness is this foul magic?!?! 110 shall be immune!!

101 also had access to very, very different gear than what 110s have. All I'm pointing out is that 100-101 did not have variation in enhance/gem scaling the same way we see 110-111. There is a difference in how the expacs treat some adjustments. It's one of the things Veechard noticed so he's speculating on others.

That’s because it’s not linear. It’s on an exponential curve. Are there really that many people out there that have never taken an algebra class? The public school system has failed us.

And? Nobody said it's not, I was pointing out blizz has deviated from what they did in Legion with this xpac. There's a difference between how the expacs handled the effects of some enhancements and specific current content levels. It causes at minimum some speculation as to why and how things will move forward.

 

[Veechard]

101 also had access to very, very different gear than what 110s have. All I'm pointing out is that 100-101 did not have variation in enhance/gem scaling the same way we see 110-111. There is a difference in how the expacs treat some adjustments. It's one of the things Veechard noticed so he's speculating on others.



And? Nobody said it's not, I was pointing out blizz has deviated from what they did in Legion with this xpac. There's a difference between how the expacs handled the effects of some enhancements and specific current content levels. It causes at minimum some speculation as to why and how things will move forward.

Thanks you, couldn’t have put it better myself.

No one is wrong here because we simply don’t know. We can only speculate

 

[Warglave]

All I'm pointing out is that 100-101 did not have variation in enhance/gem scaling the same way we see 110-111.

Legion BoE that were endgame ilevel were what level? Legendaries?

100?
Or.... 101?

Did 100 "skip" anything when it got integrated into 101-109? Or is it just that much crappier due to... 101 BoE?

If not for the recent changes on way to the PTR, 100 would be unquestionably the WORST level in the bracket. Now it's just another level, but still is weaker than any slot that utilizes legion endgame 101 BoE, and CANNOT utilize legendaries.

How are you "speculating" differently for 110 again? Nothing, NOTHING even hints at the nonsense you're offering.

110 is the end of legion. Free to all that subscribe... 111 is the beginning of BfA, where enchants and gems reflect that. The scaling is just as "different" -as you've both agreed already- for legion 101 to 109. 109 benefitted far less than 101.

119 loses stats as you use the SAME RATING when leveled in battlegrounds. Like any other. This is stupidly simple stuff.

 

[Veechard]

stupidly simple stuff.

FacePalm

 

[Warglave]

FacePalm

Indeed. The entire thread.

 

[Veechard]

Is it your lifelong job to try and debunk any kind of speculation? If so get a different career, because this thread was nothing more than trying to justify why 110s might not receive as large of a hit as 111 do in IPVP.

 

[Warglave]

Is it your lifelong job to try and debunk any kind of speculation?

Is it your personal quest to constantly spread baseless misinformation?

YOU ARE WRONG. There's nothing to "debunk"... you're just plain wrong on every level. When you try to spread it, it becomes an issue to others than just you. I don't know that I've seen you give a single shred of viable information yet.

 

[Veechard]

Is it your personal quest to constantly spread baseless misinformation?

YOU ARE WRONG. There's nothing to "debunk"... you're just plain wrong on every level. When you try to spread it, it becomes an issue to others than just you. I don't know that I've seen you give a single shred of viable information yet.

And you are saying I’m wrong about something that you have no idea if blizzard will scale differently than the only testable 111. Just as much as I don’t know if it’s the case, neither do you
[doublepost=1552068318,1552068245][/doublepost]The arrogance someone must posed to call a theory wrong and theirs right when you just plain don’t know is beyond me

 

[Warglave]

Just as much as I don’t know if it’s the case, neither do you

YES I DO.

You're "guessing" based on absolutely nothing. I have fact and simple math to help me see, you have NOTHING.

You persistently show a complete lack of understanding how ANYTHING works. How are you creating a theory?

How are you trying to spread it to others?

 

[Veechard]

YES I DO.

You're "guessing" based on absolutely nothing. I have fact and simple math to help me see, you have NOTHING.

Yes, fact and simple math based on your findings of a 111. Sorry to say but if that’s all your going off of, then that’s just not enough. You have no fucking clue if blizz will make it different for 110

 

[Warglave]

Yes, fact and simple math based on your findings of a 111.

ANY LEVEL. YOUVE BEEN SHOWN A DOZEN TIMES.

As you are leveled to bracket cap, your RATING stays the same. You then get the amount of stat BRACKET CAP GETS.

Same at 60 as at 111. Just the scaling of the brackets is different.

NOT "10% at 60 cuz 60" - 10% cuz that the difference AT 60-69.

 

[Veechard]

ANY LEVEL. YOUVE BEEN SHOWN A DOZEN TIMES.

As you are leveled to bracket cap, your RATING stays the same. You then get the amount of stat BRACKET CAP GETS.

Same at 60 as at 111. Just the scaling of the brackets is different. NOT "10% cuz 60" - 10% cuz that the difference AT 60-69.

Dude stop assuming blizz will use the same formula for 110. There is clearly a major different between the two
[doublepost=1552068688,1552068657][/doublepost]That’s all your doing is assuming stuff

 

[Warglave]

That’s all your doing is assuming stuff

Even IF that was correct ----> based on FACT. NOT BASED ON NOTHING AT ALL.

:Seriously?:
[doublepost=1552068816,1552068754][/doublepost]Blizz does it exactly the same for every bracket - even 111-119. You "theorize" they will change it to benefit 110.

For NO reason......

W
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Seriously.... W.T.F?!?
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The arrogance someone must posed

 

[Veechard]

It’s comical how upset you get about something that we have no clue what will happen

 

[Warglave]

It’s comical how upset you get about something that we have no clue what will happen

Its comical how you can keep acting like you know anything about anything the more you get wrong...

It's Ok to be ignorant, just stop trying to spread your ignorance on others. Be ignorant to yourself.

Every time you pop into a thread to give input I cringe now. Every time ---> because someone is about to be misinformed.

 

[Veechard]

Its comical how you can keep acting like you know anything about anything the more you get wrong...

It's Ok to be ignorant, just stop trying to spread your ignorance on others. Be ignorant to yourself.

Every time you pop into a thread to give input I cringe now. Every time ---> because someone is about to be misinformed.

I’m not trying to spread anything. It was a brainstorm thread turned battle of who is right because you continually think that 111 BG scaling formula will carry over to 110. In simply stating my opinion on why I don’t think that will be the case. Your whole life is clearly revolving around proving people wrong
[doublepost=1552069567,1552069391][/doublepost]lol I misinform people? Wasn’t aware as I’m pretty sure I have been quite helpful on bringing light to 101 bracket post legion. As well as plenty of time put into 60 bracket information. Your clearly just salty. Call me wrong about this topic all you want, but again, this thread way made to brainstorm about something we have no fucking clue what will happen. But warglaive the God knows

 

[Warglave]

It was a brainstorm thread turned battle of who is right

There's no brainstorm, you're just not right. Nothing at all supports your "theory". Not one single thing....

You might as well be brainstorming about unicorns under your bed that disappear if you look for them - because that's how based in reality your "theory" is. You've seen EXACTLY how it works. All brackets. With pictures. Just... wow.

Call me wrong about this topic

You're wrong about just about everything you post, lately at least. I doubt it's an isolated occurrence.

 

[Veechard]

There's no brainstorm, you're just not right. Nothing at all supports your "theory". Not one single thing....

You might as well be brainstorming about unicorns under your bed that disappear if you look for them - because that's how based in reality your "theory" is. You've seen EXACTLY how it works. All brackets. Just... wow.

I’ve seen how 111 jumps up in secondaries. And if the bracket becomes 110-119, your telling me that 110s (less secondaries than 111) will be throttled more than 111 because technically they are lower than 111?

No way in hell. They will make an exception for 110. IN MY OPINION

 

[Warglave]

No remorse, no acceptance, just misinformation. And a little attitude.
[doublepost=1552069800,1552069754][/doublepost]

your telling me that 110s (less secondaries than 111) will be throttled more than 111

No, i'm saying a 110 in exactly the same gear as a 111 will still be a shitty 119.

BiS for 111 is antorus gear, right? Same rules apply... the ratings stay the same as you're leveled to 119.

You're a 119 in antorus gear. Just like I've stated ALL THREAD LONG.