Arena Ranked / New Website Arena Skirmish Ladder for Twinks

Guys, just a reminder that you can implement unique frames on your characters portrait in the ladder. Prices are extremely loyal and the money will go to the further development of the project. The plan is to make a separate character page with game statistics and so on. To implement this would like to get feedback from the community. Thank you!

Send a donation and write which character you want what frame

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[doublepost=1647264795,1647263075][/doublepost]100 Characters in the Ladder!!!
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erenburgh said:
GUYS! Why did you stop playing arenas? You're not satisfied with the site? Uncomfortable system in general? I don't understand why everything stopped!!!
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I can't speak for everyone, but here on US I know a lot of the players are just taking a quick break while they wait for other people to bump up their ratings. It's hard being 2k+ and getting +1 for wins and -20 for losses, facing skilled players who just haven't had time to grind yet.

There's also solo shuffle, which Chops mentioned, although I don't think that's replacing skirmishes necessarily. It just is a cool new toy that somewhat scratches an arena itch.

There's also the issue of only having a sliver of the total skirmish queueing population with the addon - probably for multiple reasons that are likely somewhat obvious.
 
I think most people saw this coming from a mile away, which is why those that had the time and ability to make an addon/client/website combo, were not inclined to.

1) I'm never going to let this part go. Running a windows application that isn't certified and gives you a security warning doesn't inspire confidence. The people that have used it and are on the bracket are either very trustworthy of the creators, have authenticators on their accounts, or just don't care about a possible threat.

2) The app is clunky sometimes. Having to exit the game in order to upload your rating feels weird and in my experience and it doesn't work every time. When I exit the game it means I'm done, I checked the website when I was done, it didn't update so I shrugged and did something else.

3) Echoing what Bop said:
Bop said:
It's hard being 2k+ and getting +1 for wins and -20 for losses, facing skilled players who just haven't had time to grind yet.
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This part has nothing to do with your app/website and is just an issue with the skirmish MMR system, also just pointing out a flaw of making a ranked system out of a skirmish MMR.

4) Scummy people. If you beat someone, and they get butt hurt, they group up with their hunter friend to help carry them. I personally haven't seen this often but its very easy to be a shitty person in skirmishes and use other classes to your advantage to boost your own rating.

I personally appreciate all the hard work and effort that went into this and I'm going to keep using it and queueing arenas because that's where I find the most joy in game currently :D Thank you again for putting this together!
 
Hi. I do arena sometimes...

The ladder is good, and great job making it. There are some flaws that really can't be avoided due to the nature of the skirmish system that others here have mentioned.

-Those that get hurt & queue with a hunter to boost themselves/kill another team if they lose. Or, queue with an actual level 60 (I believe it downscales to 29, but still ridiculous). Example player(s)/guilds guilty on both counts - Gorecki/Bluntqt/Paragonx. The guild Stuck At Graveyard. Really scummy, guys.
-App isn't certified
-Echo what Bop said regarding +1 -20
-EU & US are combined. Why? We can't compete against each other.
-Players either don't update their rating if it falls
-Players just haven't bothered adding themselves to the ladder (<---guilty)
-The ladder would significantly benefit from wider visibility with xpoff, which I did mention to you via discord at one point - a lot of these issues fix over extended periods of time with a larger population being involved. As is, the ladder really consists of the same few people and their alts
-Also consider those who believe they're at the top of the ladder may just have no motivation to queue, which gives the impression of inactivity

It's a fun concept, but I'm not sure what we're competing for at the end of the day, there's no reward in it. I have not played all that much lately, but with the time I do, I find myself with very little motivation to do skirmishes & just do war games with friends.

Regardless:
CigNus said:
I personally appreciate all the hard work and effort that went into this and I'm going to keep using it and queueing arenas because that's where I find the most joy in game currently :D Thank you again for putting this together!
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Wizkidone said:
-Players either don't update their rating if it falls
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Does it auto-update? I thought I read somewhere it fires off after closing the game but maybe I'm wrong.

One thing that could be done is add a time stamp to pulled rating and let the addon "inspect" everyone around them and send all character rating. If time-stamp on rating > last received from character, it's updated.
 
Hashbrowns said:
Does it auto-update? I thought I read somewhere it fires off after closing the game but maybe I'm wrong.

One thing that could be done is add a time stamp to pulled rating and let the addon "inspect" everyone around them and send all character rating. If time-stamp on rating > last received from character, it's updated.
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It requires the individual sending it to have the application open. It does not report rating for other players.
 
Wizkidone said:
Hi. I do arena sometimes...

The ladder is good, and great job making it. There are some flaws that really can't be avoided due to the nature of the skirmish system that others here have mentioned.

-Those that get hurt & queue with a hunter to boost themselves/kill another team if they lose. Or, queue with an actual level 60 (I believe it downscales to 29, but still ridiculous). Example player(s)/guilds guilty on both counts - Gorecki/Bluntqt/Paragonx. The guild Stuck At Graveyard. Really scummy, guys.
-App isn't certified
-Echo what Bop said regarding +1 -20
-EU & US are combined. Why? We can't compete against each other.
-Players either don't update their rating if it falls
-Players just haven't bothered adding themselves to the ladder (<---guilty)
-The ladder would significantly benefit from wider visibility with xpoff, which I did mention to you via discord at one point - a lot of these issues fix over extended periods of time with a larger population being involved. As is, the ladder really consists of the same few people and their alts
-Also consider those who believe they're at the top of the ladder may just have no motivation to queue, which gives the impression of inactivity

It's a fun concept, but I'm not sure what we're competing for at the end of the day, there's no reward in it. I have not played all that much lately, but with the time I do, I find myself with very little motivation to do skirmishes & just do war games with friends.

Regardless:
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Hey Wiz, I've always looked up to you. Just wanted to say that I've been a fan since MOP 20s
 
Donnydb071 said:
My character doesn’t show up in the feed while I did everything
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Sometimes it can take a bit to get your character uploaded. It may take a few hours - and you may have to log back on your toon and do the Process.

I may be superstitious / overdoing things, but I typically do this:

1. Have WoW open, logged in to my character.
2. Open Arena Ranked Client
3. Have my character target itself (displays rating)
4. Do a /reload
5. Repeat step #3.
6. Log off character.
7. Close WoW.
8. Wait for Arena Ranked Client to finish updating (shows loading cycle for a bit after closing WoW)
9. Close Arena Ranked Client.

I repeat steps 3-6 for each character I want to add at one time.
 
For some reason my rating stopped updating at 207 games...I am now up to 268 games and it hasn't changed over the past 3 or 4 days
 
chris54t said:
For some reason my rating stopped updating at 207 games...I am now up to 268 games and it hasn't changed over the past 3 or 4 days
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what rating u at? its possible youre playing against people so low ur not getting rating. but for 61 games straight that sounds unlikely.
 
Goesid said:
what rating u at? its possible youre playing against people so low ur not getting rating. but for 61 games straight that sounds unlikely.
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I've gone from 154 Wins and 53 Losses to 203 Wins and 66 Losses. I'm not great at maths but I'm pretty sure thats an increase in percentages. My rating on the Arena Ranked website says 1665 but my rating in-game says 2104 using the 'Arena Ranked' addon
 
chris54t said:
I've gone from 154 Wins and 53 Losses to 203 Wins and 66 Losses. I'm not great at maths but I'm pretty sure thats an increase in percentages. My rating on the Arena Ranked website says 1665 but my rating in-game says 2104 using the 'Arena Ranked' addon
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Its my understanding that you have to manually update every time to see the changes reflected on the website
 
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Not sure how to do that Chops. At first it updated automatically because of the client but then it stopped for no apparent reason. I think it's a devious plan by Cignus to free the world of twink hunters :)
 
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