Another BG, another jump exploit - BAN THIS RIGHT NOW! Thanks

[BACKPEDDLE]

It appears that the 30-39 bracket is bleeding players due to the restrictions that have been placed on open game play recently. Why in the world there would be restrictions on open gameplay is beyond me. There is no way to enforce it. Do you actually believe that everyone that queues 39's posts here on TI? Or even visits TI. Sure, they may read the forum. But, who in their right mind would want to get embroiled in all this mess?
At any given time there is three to five times as many 'guests' than 'member' perusing TI.
These restrictions are just choking the life out of this bracket. Even people in this very thread have threatened to quit because of them in open play. They(the restrictions) are getting ludicrous.
Restrictions are fine for premades. But let's please keep them out of open game play. Otherwise 39's will have a short lifespan.

/cheers

Uh huh. Except MVP is the only kid in the bracket abusing jumps.

There, your whole post just went to shit.

 

[Raz]

why do you ban jumps just because people are to lazy to practice them? seems quite stupid

 

[Donteventrii]

39s is bleeding players? Care to back that up? I've played the last 3 game nights. We've welcomed newcomers each one. I ask why they chose the bracket and if they're enjoying it. They're incredibly enthusiastic towards the organized community we've put together.

 

[Scrubhuntin]

older twinks i know are showing interest based on the game NOT being like 19's/29's ad being a bit more community regulated. The only people whining are the type of twinks that only twink to one-shot people or faceroll. They should be playing in the 29 bracket against f2p's and leave the good gameplay to the better players.

 

[Allybeboba]

39s is bleeding players? Care to back that up? I've played the last 3 game nights. We've welcomed newcomers each one. I ask why they chose the bracket and if they're enjoying it. They're incredibly enthusiastic towards the organized community we've put together.

Four people in this thread alone...
And that is just TI member voicing their opinions. That does not include 'guests' and people not on TI.

/toodles

 

[Scrubhuntin]

im willing to bet those 4 players are friends with blaze that he told to post as i've not seen them post hardly at all at 39's. I could grab a few people i know and have them come in and just post to push one side of an argument as well if you'd like.

 

[BACKPEDDLE]

Alliance was having a good time in AB until people saw MVP glitching again and they started raging in chat.

Who's causing us to lose players, again?

 

[Donteventrii]

Four people in this thread alone...

I'll wager they'll be back because they enjoy the quality of games. Regardless, there is a net positive flow of bracket migrants.

 

[Scrubhuntin]

You think an easier fix is to:

allow jumps asking people to start exploiting which is against the TOS.

OR

Have 1 person who is the only person i've seen abuse those jumps and exploit terrain left and right to just stop.



Seems pretty damn obvious which one is easier to do.

 

[Donteventrii]

Alliance was having a good time in AB until people saw MVP glitching again and they started raging in chat.
Who's causing us to lose players, again?

Instead of raging, send someone to the Horde TS. We had no idea he was doing this. We would ask "Mvpee, how is stables?" "Ok bro." and reorient our focus elsewhere. Had an Alliance popped up to say something, we would've requested he stop, and I personally would have gone to Stables to lessen his node camping effect.

 

[Adeimantus]

Alliance was having a good time in AB until people saw MVP glitching again and they started raging in chat.

Who's causing us to lose players, again?

That's a bit dramatic. People got salty because they got 3 - 0'd in ab.

 

[Scrubhuntin]

actually i can attest to people wanting to leave. Bearies said he got completely turned off by the exploiting in the barn and I had to convince him it was just one lame player doing it and to keep giving it a go. He decided to stay until we all logged for the night. We enjoyed every game except that one and any wsg where mvp was jumping again in.

 

[Adeimantus]

That's an annoying jump but it's not game breaking imo. It's ludicrous that it would cause people to stop Queuing ab so that we can wsg. Wsg is mvps veritable playground. I maintain it was the losses that precipitated a change in scenery.

 

[Scrubhuntin]

like i said i was in skype with someone that as soon as mvp was up there he said "really.. this guy is exploiting at stables god i hate playing against people like this turns me off to playing" He didnt start queueing wsg because of that, he wanted to quit playing for the night...

You can claim whatever you want, but things like that happen every time mvp does what hes been doing.

If you notice here I'm not saying when "15 random bg'ers do this" I'm saying when 1 single lonely retard is doing these things since he is the only one. Why is an entire bracket catering to 1 player who is causing a multitude of other players to not want to play?

Is this really that hard to comprehend? Do you need a crayon illustration?

 

[Adeimantus]

No need to be a jerk. I accept your friend nearly stopped Queuing because of it. I don't accept that mvp ruined the whole ab night.

 

[Scrubhuntin]

he didnt ruin the whole ab night, but for him to keep doing jumps he is causing players to want to stop queueing which will ruin EVERY bg night.. If tons of fc's and players were jumping all over the place doing exploits I could understand the other side of the coin, but it is from what i've seen ONLY mvp doing all of these things. One person... 1.

 

[Snowjobs]

As I was hopping between both sides multiple times last night I think I can give an accurate description of how things played out.

First two games on horde side as Rdruid ( 1500- 14?? ) both games so they were pretty close.

Horde was chatting and stuff nothing too fancy I recall seeing mvp at stabs 1 or 2 times but never thinking much of it . ( had somebody come in and said something people may have brought It up with mvp)

wsg pops but I wasn't qued for it

so I hop on over to Fie mage ally side to get some quest gear while waiting on wsg and to try and balance games ( cause a fire is a huge advantage you know) .

Ab pops again and the alliance runs in all jolly laughing over somebody in ts just being a clown and having a good time. bout 3 min in "seriously!? there isn't a single bg where this kid isn't a total twat" ..... huh wonder what that was about . don't have to wonder about it for long cause suddenly everyone is just complaining and the holly jolly chat is now a groan fest.

after that ab stops popping and everyone shifts over to wsg.
rest of the night was pretty standard on ally side . everyone trys to blow up mvp asap .

I hop over to horde side after 2 games.

mvp runs around complaining how he isn't having fun in wsg because hes just running flag in strait lines. (horde was winning pretty well that game)

next game comes along and he's dicking around with the flag running away from heals and stuff frustrating most of the healers. 30 sec left in the game comes up and we get a return and hes still sitting tot . 20 sec ....still there .... 10 sec ...." oops sorry wasn't paying attention".

-.-

over all the jumps detract from the quality of games IMO.
also id rather play ally than put up with mvp in chat/on my team.

P.s. I'm bored at work so sorry for rambling on and on

 

[Allybeboba]

I'll wager they'll be back because they enjoy the quality of games. Regardless, there is a net positive flow of bracket migrants.

I am most certainly sure you are correct. They were empty threats.

 

[Fancy]

Ok one, jump macros can't be proven, 2, if you read Blizzard Entertainment:World of Warcraft Terms of Use and Blizzard Entertainment:Battle.net® end user License Agreement - clearly states that jumping is an "essence" of the game. It also states if he is exploiting bugs in the game which he is not, as if it was a bug it would of been fix by blizzard about 10 years ago, also states if it gives advantages over people whom are not using such methods.


So has anyone here ever not used the "jump" button in wow? I think not.


It states that using outside programs is bannable but the jumps he is doing is don't without one, and extremely easily. You all have no argument here. The jumps stay and so does MVP


Never stated in the text is there any thing about terrain exploiting, only bug exploiting, if it was considered a bug it would be fixed. And you have seen time and time again when blizzard add something into WSG there is always these weird bug "terrain" exploits which are fixed in a few weeks, if the jumps he does are considered a bug they would be fixed by now.

 

[Shook]

Ok one, jump macros can't be proven, 2, if you read Blizzard Entertainment:World of Warcraft Terms of Use and Blizzard Entertainment:Battle.net® end user License Agreement - clearly states that jumping is an "essence" of the game. It also states if he is exploiting bugs in the game which he is not, as if it was a bug it would of been fix by blizzard about 10 years ago, also states if it gives advantages over people whom are not using such methods.

So has anyone here ever not used the "jump" button in wow? I think not.

It states that using outside programs is bannable but the jumps he is doing is don't without one, and extremely easily. You all have no argument here. The jumps stay and so does MVP

I guess I consider jump macros similar to scroll clicking. You know they both are unintended to be used the way twinks use them but they are essential for consistent maneuvers/flag return.