Another BG, another jump exploit - BAN THIS RIGHT NOW! Thanks

[Livingforce]

he uses jumps i have no issues getting everybody i queue with filled up on consumables. if people are going to cater the enjoyment of an entire bracket on 1 person's actions then enjoy the actions others take.

Dude, this WSG tot rule was allowed by the 39 Pug committee, even atomyx and boostz all that agreed to it. I'm just following the rules as in your case, seems like you didn't know about this at all.

As i said and i'm saying again for the 5th time, i let my guys know only to do WSG tot jumps and thats it. If you have a problem, go to boostz instead of saying. Nup im going to use flash bombs like a little kid.

If you break the rules, your not hurting me, only the activity and what boostz has implemented the rules to be, along with the 39 PUG committee.

 

[Batts]

GL getting him kicked on alliance side when a good amount of people will be using them now.

I think you mean to say "GL getting him kicked on alliance side when there are only 3 people in Teamspeak"

 

[Scrubhuntin]

except the same thing is happening with mvp or are you too dense to comprehend that?

lol lil kid.. you're cute. mvp over there throwing his tantrums because he is the only one wanting to do jumps in the entire bracket sounds a bit more like a child to me.

the rest of us actually recognize that his actions hurt the bracket as a whole because without people playing your precious TC doesnt exist and mvp being an asshat is causing people to not want to play. No pugs will end up meaning no wargames..

I guess australia breeds em a lil dumb tho.

 

[Livingforce]

except the same thing is happening with mvp or are you too dense to comprehend that?

lol lil kid.. you're cute. mvp over there throwing his tantrums because he is the only one wanting to do jumps in the entire bracket sounds a bit more like a child to me.

the rest of us actually recognize that his actions hurt the bracket as a whole because without people playing your precious TC doesnt exist and mvp being an asshat is causing people to not want to play. No pugs will end up meaning no wargames..

I guess australia breeds em a lil dumb tho.

The way you interpret what I'm trying to say is wrong, I had a talk to mvp and I told him if he does any other jumps then WSG TOT jumps he's off the team.

For the second bit, I agree with what you said, but you have to understand I said that since there's a upcoming TC, that it helps encourage more people to play pugs. Not is the lifeblood of why pugs are active just more so a assist.

You think I'm just one sided with the mpv thing but I'm not, I'm after for fun fair balanced games. I will always do my best to stick to the rules of the pug committee has laid out. Also throwing insults at me just to try and make you seem like your the smart one is not a really good way of proving that. Better to logically give a answer then throw insults as it shows you have nothing else to come up with.

p.s: calling me kid is quite funny as I don't see any credibility that you have compared to me.

 

[Batts]

Did you type that on a phone, or are you really drunk?

Also Skrubform, you're coming across pretty retarded with the way you're shaping what you have to say, regardless of the content underneath. Lighten up a bit maybe?

 

[Livingforce]

Did you type that on a phone, or are you really drunk?

Also Skrubform, you're coming across pretty retarded with the way you're shaping what you have to say, regardless of the content underneath. Lighten up a bit maybe?

Phone haha

 

[Adeimantus]

except the same thing is happening with mvp or are you too dense to comprehend that?

lol lil kid.. you're cute. mvp over there throwing his tantrums because he is the only one wanting to do jumps in the entire bracket sounds a bit more like a child to me.

the rest of us actually recognize that his actions hurt the bracket as a whole because without people playing your precious TC doesnt exist and mvp being an asshat is causing people to not want to play. No pugs will end up meaning no wargames..

I guess australia breeds em a lil dumb tho.

You are trying to basically win people over to your point of view in the end, no? You must be otherwise all of this would just be masturbation. Generally, casting all of your opponents as retards, idiots, children, etc. doesn't promote dialogue, it instead makes people more spiteful and obstinate.

 

[Scrubhuntin]

learn to read living.. i didnt call you a kid /sigh

@ Batts I'm prefectly calm. Just running guildmates up to 39 trying to actually bolster the community unlike some.

edit* @ Adeimantus - I was less hostile the first couple of times requesting he not ruin games with his antics.

 

[Karmaz]

What? If he is cornered at GY with no support, a jump can be done, negating the horrible decision to run GY instead of up tun/ramp.

Please stop with your fking passive aggressive smiles.

holy fuck the greatest xlmaOe

 

[Livingforce]

learn to read living.. i didnt call you a kid /sigh

@ Batts I'm prefectly calm. Just running guildmates up to 39 trying to actually bolster the community unlike some.

edit* @ Adeimantus - I was less hostile the first couple of times requesting he not ruin games with his antics.

I'm not trying to ruin anything, these are rules that have already been made in place ages ago. As i mentioned earlier, you where not just aware of them or wanted it your way idk.

 

[Shamatix]

Livingfarce, it's time to deal with your player

Its time for you to shut the fuck up with your font 72 style, no one cares about you, and specially not when you go full retard.

 

[Poetic]

As I can see 39s is the new bracket without hate^^

May I join?

 

[Batts]

If you agree to our lengthy and incredibly complex, freedom-strangling ruleset found at
http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f14/[official]-pug-bg-rules-guidelines-69660/

then sure

 

[Allybeboba]

[MENTION=7986]Livingforce[/MENTION] I would like to know who elected this "committee"... And who decided that 30-39 bracket belonged the Livingforce. He certainly acts like he literally owns a the bracket. Review the way he speaks. "My players", "I will ban you", " l will kick you" you have said it so much even the other sheeple are following in your footsteps by repeating you, because they know no better.
I am not saying that we are not grateful for the time and effort you have put forth into helping this bracket , well as others. What I am stating is, that you should try and stop taking such a possessive stance approach towards the bracket. You may not meet as much resistance.

Did we have a his problem with the 19's TC? Myrm did not post nearly as much as you. You need to take your role a little more seriously. You are no longer a regular member. You are held to a higher standard. You should not be talking down to members the way you have been.
Did/do we have a PuG committee rules for 19's? We did not. Because it would have stifled games just as it is stifling games now in 39's. Some may say it is not. Just think how many more we would have if we did not have all these rules in place. We might be playing every night. Or have less down time between games.

 

[Livingforce]

Livingforce I would like to know who elected this "committee"... And who decided that 30-39 bracket belonged the Livingforce. He certainly acts like he literally owns a the bracket. Review the way he speaks. "My players", "I will ban you", " l will kick you" you have said it so much even the other sheeple are following in your footsteps by repeating you, because they know no better.
I am not saying that we are not grateful for the time and effort you have put forth into helping this bracket , well as others. What I am stating is, that you should try and stop taking such a possessive stance approach towards the bracket. You may not meet as much resistance.

Did we have a his problem with the 19's TC? Myrm did not post nearly as much as you. You need to take your role a little more seriously. You are no longer a regular member. You are held to a higher standard. You should not be talking down to members the way you have been.
Did/do we have a PuG committee rules for 19's? We did not. Because it would have stifled games just as it is stifling games now in 39's. Some may say it is not. Just think how many more we would have if we did not have all these rules in place. We might be playing every night. Or have less down time between games.

When Boostz took over as bracket master he made a 39 PUG committee and i was invited to join. As you mentioned, "my players" i'm referring to the 14 people in my premade roster. If i said i will ban, that's regarding to the TC.

It was not my idea to make the 39 PUG committee it was Boostz. And as a collective team we done what is logically best to keep pugs fun and balanced whilst trying to keep everyone happy at the same time. I'm sorry im not Myrm, i am 100% dedicated to this bracket and i love the community and everything about it.

I'm proud to say i'm passionate about twinks, i love interacting with people even if its for good or bad. I'm not what so ever a dictator as everything i said about topics has been within the rules. It just seems so many people where/are out of the loop what goes behind the scenes. Yes i do get emotional and shouldn't react to what some people say and i need to work on that. Regarding i will ban you, i don't believe i said that to anyone directly on TI. But some repeating offenders are going to be dealt with sooner or later. A few people are already on their last thread, reason im so harsh is just to keep people from abusing the rules without consequences. Maybe i need to change the way i approach it, but behind the scenes i let people know nicely before it escalates to that point. Just trying my best to keep things running as smoothly as i can.

There is always people that are going to disagree with me, but you can never please them all.

It probably would of helped for Boostz having the thread up as soon as we agreed to what the rules are, but we all try our best to learn from our mistakes.

I try to do what ever is best for the ACTIVITY of the bracket, that is it, and i do my darn-est to work with the PUG committee team to do so and will keep doing so.

 

[Allybeboba]

Thumbs up!
Well stated.

 

[Scrubhuntin]

if you tried to do what is best for the bracket then mvp would not be doing jumps at all. follow your own words or dont type em.

 

[Batts]

Do you think livingforce is secretly playing mvpee's toon? It's not like he has direct control over the guy and they've already publicly scuffled over having words put in his mouth. One or two of you guys really need to lay off Livingforce -- it's like you're just totally shifting your anger and blame onto him. Whenever he's caught wind of buttfuckery going on, he's stepped in to try and calm things down and fix it.

He, boots and whoever else came together and already put forth the http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f14/[official]-pug-bg-rules-guidelines-69660/ and such issues *should* have readily established guidelines to be addressed in the future.

I don't agree with mvpee's behavior. He's really annoying to play against, and even sometimes with. But I also don't think he's going to singlehandedly cause 40+ people to quit the bracket. I think it's definitely detrimental to morale, and that having to deal with him for prolonged periods is certainly and justifiably frustrating, and that among a few other things(some faction imbalance and lack of communication on one side) he's at the top of the list of things to be addressed.

But he was addressed. So we can lay off for now. Sound good? Does to me