Win/Loss farming.

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i vote we take a twink pledge of honor to never afk when the going gets tough, to never gy farm, and to never care about a win/lose ratio again.

[X] I won't afk when the going gets tough, or never gy farm, or care about a win/lose ratio ever again.

(Anyone who doesn't check the box by posting itt is part of the problem)
 
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48 hour deserter

damage immunity while in the graveyard like wintergrasp
 
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on RUIN battlegroup it wasn't a issue until the XP on/XP off patch killed twinking on other battlegroups. then came the huge RUIN migration. and AFKing was rampant back then. that huge guild Fishin Buddies was notorious for it, not only were they working that achieves, many of them were preserving/stoking their stats. drayner had a player in FB's as did many still on this forum. i remember drayner commenting and being pissed off about being left in a BG cause most the FB's AFK'd and didn't think it was funny. i would have them come up to my player and flaming me, saying i'm a noob. i would ask// they would say look at my stats compared to yours....you are a loser etc etc. i would laugh..

FB's asked some in my guild to premade with them once, on first ally cap they afk'd, we stuck with it, alliance got 2-0, we got drop ins and actually turned the game and won.

overall majority of FB's where trash and alot of them still play, FB was a huge 19 twink guild they had like 230+ level 19's at their peak, and a true twink guild in that only 4-5 players in that guild used for running players were 70+

i don't remember pizza on RUIN back in 2007, my first recollection of the player was as a Troll female hunter around end of BC/WotLK start up. i do remember the AFKing that started back then around that time but was not exclusive to pizza, but i do remember that when pizza/horde disappeared and all of a sudden next game a NE female hunter on alliance side would appear in the next game with the same exact play style and it wasn't named pizza/alliance like it is now. that was one of the first players i noticed win rolling. now it is evident cause both players are the same name barring use if map/asci letters. pizza was smarter than the players with one twink paying for faction changes to be on winning sides. pizza just got noticed more than other players and singled out and commented on.

also at back then 19's where able to do arenas, many players would be duel qued. let's say the arena que popped while in a bad WSG, it was easy to say i wasn't AFKing but going to arena which i'm putting more priority into. but that is gone and now AFKs are evident and hard to explain away. in 29 bracket players used to duel que if WSG was going bad, and they got a AB pop...boom gone and vice versa. that system is also gone. now once you enter a BG your other ques drop and those who AFK are obvious

many players do the same things and have gone even farther, they may have 4 horde and 4 alliance 19's and switch back and forth based on who they see is winning. some are easy to tell like confidentyo, confidentpal, confidentfoo, confident etc etc. same goes with hitthere and those variations. but they pay to play and can do what ever they want.
 
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on RUIN battlegroup it wasn't a issue until the XP on/XP off patch killed twinking on other battlegroups. then came the huge RUIN migration. and AFKing was rampant back then. that huge guild Fishin Buddies was notorious for it, not only were they working that achieves, many of them were preserving/stoking their stats. drayner had a player in FB's as did many still on this forum. i remember drayner commenting and being pissed off about being left in a BG cause most the FB's AFK'd and didn't think it was funny. i would have them come up to my player and flaming me, saying i'm a noob. i would ask// they would say look at my stats compared to yours....you are a loser etc etc. i would laugh..

FB's asked some in my guild to premade with them once, on first ally cap they afk'd, we stuck with it, alliance got 2-0, we got drop ins and actually turned the game and won.

overall majority of FB's where trash and alot of them still play, FB was a huge 19 twink guild they had like 230+ level 19's at their peak, and a true twink guild in that only 4-5 players in that guild used for running players were 70+

i don't remember pizza on RUIN back in 2007, my first recollection of the player was as a Troll female hunter around end of BC/WotLK start up. i do remember the AFKing that started back then around that time but was not exclusive to pizza, but i do remember that when pizza/horde disappeared and all of a sudden next game a NE female hunter on alliance side would appear in the next game with the same exact play style and it wasn't named pizza/alliance like it is now. that was one of the first players i noticed win rolling. now it is evident cause both players are the same name barring use if map/asci letters. pizza was smarter than the players with one twink paying for faction changes to be on winning sides. pizza just got noticed more than other players and singled out and commented on.

also at back then 19's where able to do arenas, many players would be duel qued. let's say the arena que popped while in a bad WSG, it was easy to say i wasn't AFKing but going to arena which i'm putting more priority into. but that is gone and now AFKs are evident and hard to explain away. in 29 bracket players used to duel que if WSG was going bad, and they got a AB pop...boom gone and vice versa. that system is also gone. now once you enter a BG your other ques drop and those who AFK are obvious

many players do the same things and have gone even farther, they may have 4 horde and 4 alliance 19's and switch back and forth based on who they see is winning. some are easy to tell like confidentyo, confidentpal, confidentfoo, confident etc etc. same goes with hitthere and those variations. but they pay to play and can do what ever they want.

WTF??

Nice way to try and distract topic. Topic is about todays games not yesteryear.
 
Cheatz you can gtfo too. You recently returned from a long afk stint. Most everyone knows my take on the afk issues as it is part guilds code of conduct.
 
What? when did i ever afk when the game got hard? last time i did that was back in whirlwind, like 2008. guess you were around back then too tho lol.

Btw, check the box.
 
Just do what i do... On my druid in hopeless matches I play a little game with myself and try to keep the flag and piss off the opposing team as long as possible :D It's pretty fun and you get a whole let better in losing games than in winning games.

But anyway, the only reason I would leave is to log right before the last cap and grab another toon to balance our comp a little better, but that's usually seconds before the game ends, I'm sure people have seen me do this to better the horde community.

Honestly people will always leave. I personally don't understand it, I wait in too long of ques just to leave.
 
but they pay to play and can do what ever they want.

yap, that's what it comes down to... this is a maturity/ jaded with the game problem... if you don't like it move to a battle group that tends to attract a more mature crowd or you can try your best to ignore it because i don't think there's any hope of this being reversed.
 
WTF??

Nice way to try and distract topic. Topic is about todays games not yesteryear.

yeap....my point exactly, the problem did not start today
 
What? when did i ever afk when the game got hard? last time i did that was back in whirlwind, like 2008. guess you were around back then too tho lol.

Btw, check the box.
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afk stint = just returned to game after not playing for awhile.

I have already checked the box a long time ago.

[X] into box if you need to see it.
 
Check the box or you openly admit you're part of the problem. People lurk these forums a lot more than they post in them. They'll see it, and if they tell you they haven't, tell them where to look for it and that if they don't sign it, they admit they are part of the problem we have been having with the games. If you get on people asses about it, they'll have to sign it. Then, when you see them AFK out for some stupid reason or something against the pledge, post about it here. We could keep tally or something to see who ruins the bracket the most. :)

@Blinka grats on being the documents second official signer :)
 
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Pointless…
you think some forum contract is gonna change ppl afking?
what are you gonna do when they sign it and afk?
complain about it on the forums?
oh wait that's already happening …
look we're right back to where we started <3

[X] check this box if u are apart of the problem
 
[X]

Rules against AFKing will be made when i start NM up again.

I agree with Ciren, Pizza should denounce AFKing formally, the people who lurk these forums will take a lot from it.
 
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take this old saying for example "if you can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen" as long as you know that these people leaving are worse then yourself, then you can remain calm. people who /AFK at the slightest chance of a loss are generally not worth wasting your breath on. this game as long been full of Epeen ratings with people concerned at being #1 in their own guild members eyes, but to the community these people are generally nothing, and their win : loss ratio does not reflect their skill as in individual, but more often then not, the effectiveness of their entire team. you can be carried and have a 100% win ratio in every BG. this does not make you good at pvp especially if you are more concerned with how you look on forums then your own skill in-game. i don't say a lot in the 19 forums anymore, as they have become such a negative place, but i hope to see this bracket one day improve, and possibly dust off my warrior some time.
 
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