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Edit to clarify: I am not writing this in defense of GO, and I'm not attempting to mount a high horse to preach about how you godless sodomites are terrible people for behaving as you do. I am attempting to get people to see things a different way.
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So the steaming pile of crap that is the WoW forums has collected a great deal more excrement recently due to screenshots of the latest Gnomeregan Outriders game being posted by various people (whose guild was no doubt requested not to post screenshots). The three parties involved in this argument are those who think posting screenshots shouldn't be prohibited, those who think posting screenshots should be prohibited, and a great deal of people who don't care because they're either wasted (.05%) or pretending to be wasted (99.95%).
I'm posting this here because this forum just might be mature enough to handle an actual discussion, and because posting anything serious on the WoW forums just doesn't work.
Now if you read the title, you can guess that I'm someone who doesn't want screenshots posted after premades. So my first question to those who disagree with me is this: Why should they be posted?
What does anyone gain from posting screenshots? I would say 3-4 days of bragging rights... 6-7 days, if the other team complains or makes excuses.
That's pretty much it. Now, I understand that there are a few people who pretty much live off of bragging rights, and if they can't piss on the corpses of their enemies, they might as well commit suicide, but I would say that the vast majority of us can live without measuring the exact size of our epeens in front of everyone else.
To demonstrate why I think posting screenshots of games shouldn't be allowed, I'll bring up the GO vs RT games pre-3.2.
Those games were great. For a while, they were the main reason I logged on to WoW. It was good competition, and it was fun. We would play them week after week, and it never got any less fun. After the games, we told each other "GGs" on the forums, and even when Kiwid and Ohso and anyone else would argue endlessly during the week, the games were not used as leverage for arguments. You didn't have idiots pretending that winning one premade over another guild somehow made them gods worthy of praise by all. As a result, no one got butthurt, and you didn't see people quitting because they felt bad that they lost.
Now I get it. Pro-Screenshot people just don't care if people get butthurt and quit. Which leads to my next argument:
Twinking (in non-xp BGs) will die. New twinks are few, if any, these days. People are leaving, and they aren't being replaced. Pre-3.2 new twinks were making twinks all the time - they'd see twinks in games and many would want to join us. No one sees us any more, and no one joins us now. Do we really need to contribute to the people leaving by bragging about every little win? Yes, I get it, many of you don't care about the people that leave, they were whiners anyway... but they were warm bodies to fill games, and many of the people who have already left (for the same reasons) were also great players. And the people who wanted to hang out with those people might also quit the game. And before you know it, you're playing with yourself - something you're probably used to.
Now to counter the "OTHER BATTLEGROUPS POASTED SCREENSHOTS AND PREMADED JUST FINE" argument:
The people involved in those games were operating under the impression that the games were another method of bragging rights. There was drama after those games, no matter what you claim. Even native Nightfallers are intelligent enough to go back and see that. In fact, going back and looking at things, it seems that when the drama was high, a game didn't happen again immediately after. It appears that people got butthurt, even in battlegroups that regularly showed off and compared epeen size.
And as far as I can tell, none of those games occurred as regularly as the GO vs RT games. Not even close.
But go on. Continue to break the rules that GO discussed with your guild before the premade, and continue to whine and complain when GO doesn't want to play against you again. Please, brag and show off, and tell everyone how GO is a bunch of babies who get butthurt because they lose.
Because I, for one, could play RT every week. I wouldn't mind. They're good players, and each game has been different. It's never been boring or repetitive. Yes, the obvious argument to this is "BECAUSE U GUYS ARE BOTH TERRIBLE LOL." Once again, I don't care if you think we are. The games are still fun.
Alternatively, here's some advice:
If you really need to brag about your victories, get a flag of ownership.
Yes, that was TLR for most of you. No, I don't care.
Oh, and Har/Ohso, I'm back.
Edit to clarify: I am not writing this in defense of GO, and I'm not attempting to mount a high horse to preach about how you godless sodomites are terrible people for behaving as you do. I am attempting to get people to see things a different way.
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So the steaming pile of crap that is the WoW forums has collected a great deal more excrement recently due to screenshots of the latest Gnomeregan Outriders game being posted by various people (whose guild was no doubt requested not to post screenshots). The three parties involved in this argument are those who think posting screenshots shouldn't be prohibited, those who think posting screenshots should be prohibited, and a great deal of people who don't care because they're either wasted (.05%) or pretending to be wasted (99.95%).
I'm posting this here because this forum just might be mature enough to handle an actual discussion, and because posting anything serious on the WoW forums just doesn't work.
Now if you read the title, you can guess that I'm someone who doesn't want screenshots posted after premades. So my first question to those who disagree with me is this: Why should they be posted?
What does anyone gain from posting screenshots? I would say 3-4 days of bragging rights... 6-7 days, if the other team complains or makes excuses.
That's pretty much it. Now, I understand that there are a few people who pretty much live off of bragging rights, and if they can't piss on the corpses of their enemies, they might as well commit suicide, but I would say that the vast majority of us can live without measuring the exact size of our epeens in front of everyone else.
To demonstrate why I think posting screenshots of games shouldn't be allowed, I'll bring up the GO vs RT games pre-3.2.
Those games were great. For a while, they were the main reason I logged on to WoW. It was good competition, and it was fun. We would play them week after week, and it never got any less fun. After the games, we told each other "GGs" on the forums, and even when Kiwid and Ohso and anyone else would argue endlessly during the week, the games were not used as leverage for arguments. You didn't have idiots pretending that winning one premade over another guild somehow made them gods worthy of praise by all. As a result, no one got butthurt, and you didn't see people quitting because they felt bad that they lost.
Now I get it. Pro-Screenshot people just don't care if people get butthurt and quit. Which leads to my next argument:
Twinking (in non-xp BGs) will die. New twinks are few, if any, these days. People are leaving, and they aren't being replaced. Pre-3.2 new twinks were making twinks all the time - they'd see twinks in games and many would want to join us. No one sees us any more, and no one joins us now. Do we really need to contribute to the people leaving by bragging about every little win? Yes, I get it, many of you don't care about the people that leave, they were whiners anyway... but they were warm bodies to fill games, and many of the people who have already left (for the same reasons) were also great players. And the people who wanted to hang out with those people might also quit the game. And before you know it, you're playing with yourself - something you're probably used to.
Now to counter the "OTHER BATTLEGROUPS POASTED SCREENSHOTS AND PREMADED JUST FINE" argument:
The people involved in those games were operating under the impression that the games were another method of bragging rights. There was drama after those games, no matter what you claim. Even native Nightfallers are intelligent enough to go back and see that. In fact, going back and looking at things, it seems that when the drama was high, a game didn't happen again immediately after. It appears that people got butthurt, even in battlegroups that regularly showed off and compared epeen size.
And as far as I can tell, none of those games occurred as regularly as the GO vs RT games. Not even close.
But go on. Continue to break the rules that GO discussed with your guild before the premade, and continue to whine and complain when GO doesn't want to play against you again. Please, brag and show off, and tell everyone how GO is a bunch of babies who get butthurt because they lose.
Because I, for one, could play RT every week. I wouldn't mind. They're good players, and each game has been different. It's never been boring or repetitive. Yes, the obvious argument to this is "BECAUSE U GUYS ARE BOTH TERRIBLE LOL." Once again, I don't care if you think we are. The games are still fun.
Alternatively, here's some advice:
If you really need to brag about your victories, get a flag of ownership.
Yes, that was TLR for most of you. No, I don't care.
Oh, and Har/Ohso, I'm back.