Why Premades are better without Screenshots
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Druiddroid
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Phauren said:
no it was a 1-1 tie where we capped last, but you can consider that a tie if you want.
and as i said before it's not because we're "dodging" it's mainly because reckoning people hated the pugs which didn't have good competition in them so many people became inactive
again gj being king of 39s
Druiddroid
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Phauren said:
IIRC we capt with 4 mins left to make it 1-1. i remember it was a dramatic and fun game. maybe you're referring to a different day or perhaps my memory is off (altho im pretty sure of this). but again you can consider that game a tie if you want.
edit: here is the screenshot
if that's not the game then idk which game you're talking about cause i prolly wasn't in it
Falaris said:
crappy competition is what comprises nightfall pugs
gl finally getting Pro together tho cause i know i'll be eating tons of popcorn when you post a SS of you trashing someone like GO.
Powerglove
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this thread sux
Druiddroid
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Falaris said:
o well then ur guild can diaf QQ
Hargrove
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Situation said:
I don't usually check these forums; I see this thread is already pretty big.
I don't understand what was incomprehensible about the idea that sportsmanship > being a cack.
There is no influx of twinks anymore. There is a finite number of players left who know what twinking is. Transfers will run out. New players do not learn about twinks because we have been sent to our own corner to die. Even our XP guy is neigh invisible. As soon as a person can log on and not get a pop in 15 mins, a fraction of people experiencing that will check less often. This grows on itself until games are gone.
You are not playing randoms anymore. You're playing a shrinking population of a few hundred people. If beating a group means endless excuses and losing to the same group means weeks of bragging, many won't give a shit about playing. I don't see what's so hard about that. This isn't about "I would still play," or "who is hardcore enough," it's about the fact that some will not continue playing, and the community desperately needs to figure out that each person who quits now puts a nail in our collective coffin.
Why do people think the internet is a fantasy social island where no regular social rules apply? Someone ruthlessly destroys you in tennis and mocks you for a week, do you go back? The answer for some people is "yes." Some of us want that competition so much, we'll look for someone who loves to excel as much as we do, or else go to the person who will most hate to lose to us, and in either case we want a drive to run our own against. Getting people to hate us is much easier than finding people who love the chase as much as we do. You just antagonize someone and see if they go away, flip out and shoot you in the face, or compete with you until you're both sharp. That strategy is also exceedingly stupid in a tiny social network, as anyone in a small community should recognize as common sense.
Competitive players within such a small playerbase are doomed if their strategy is to get everyone to hate them. That can work if your playerbase is infinite and there really is no skin off your back when someone is affected by how much of a cack you are - all you have to do is not care. You don't have to be a carebear, however, to recognize that whether I have tough skin, or you have tough skin, or 1/4 of the twinks left are hardcore pwnographers, there is no GAME without the playerbase. Didn't separating from the regular population teach anyone that?
Falaris
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Hargrove said:
I dont really have a problem with you, but you really need to quit flat out lying in regards to why you set the premade rules you do. These have been in place for you since well before the patch that separated twinks from nontwinks. Its not like you implemented these rules as a last-ditch effort to save twinking.
ohsosinful
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Falaris said:
Hmmm, what is he lying about? We have had the same premade rules for well over a year. It has never been a problem. Hargrove is simply pointing out that others that would prefer posting SS's and generally being a cack, as he put it, will inevitably harm the bracket. I don't see how you took his post as him stating the reason for our premade rules. Our rules haven't changed, the circumstances surrounding our bracket have.
-Ohso
ohsosinful
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Falaris said:
Would you mind quoting his lies? I am really curious, I reread his post, and I still don't see how he says anything deceptive about the reason we have our rules.
-Ohso
Unobscured
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Falaris said:
So since you can't find a flaw in his logic, you try to undermine his comments by pretending that he's lying. I see.
Seriously, what is your argument here? That he was a carebear before twinks started dying out, so therefore his points aren't valid?
Hargrove
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Falaris said:
I don't understand your accusation.
For the record, we did not set up some sort of "save twinking consortium" where we invented these rules post 3.2. We have used these rules for over a year, because we believe the internet is not an excuse for poor sportsmanship. Pre-3.2, we argued the general merits of a sporting attitude towards twinking, and pointed out the benefits for guilds that practiced it. Red Text and WWD, for example, are some of the oldest guilds out there. In my post, I emphasized the even greater significance of that sportsmanship in the post-3.2 environment. There is no lie or insinuation that the situation is anything else, and if you really feel it can be interpreted as such, I hope this post fixes that for you.