Trump Vs. Clinton, who will win?

Who you got?

  • Trump

    Votes: 29 51.8%

  • Clinton

    Votes: 9 16.1%

  • Neither

    Votes: 18 32.1%
  • Total voters
    56
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Killary can go fuck herself. If I were to do the exact same shit Comey's given her a free pass on I'd never get another government related job again. She's a pathological liar.

I dislike Trump but I'm voting for him to keep Killary out, no real other reason. Plus second amendment. woot woot.
 
Mom said:
I actually like Hillary. She may not be perfect(none of the candidates are) but she gets waaaaaay more shit than she actually deserves. She's stands for many good things like helping the impoverished, education, and families. You can listen to all the haters, or you can actually do your own research and find out that she means well.
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Tell that to the families mutilated by Hillary's incompetence in regards to Benghazi.
 
I just don't fucking care anymore. I'll see if things change in another 4 years from now.
 
I'll admit she has a good-grandmotherly voice that's easy to be sucked in by until you actually listen to t
Roboartist said:
I just don't ducking care anymore. I'll see if things change in another 4 years from now.
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the last eight years have brought us to the very brink of a race war, gross misrepresentation of statistics for the purpose of turning the dividing the nation on the issue of cops, the easing-out of our second amendment, and rampant corruption that is flat out turning our country against itself. Fuck another democratic presidency.
 
AlisterCrow said:
Notice the "Inb4" at the beginning. It's short for "in before" and generally used before predicting what people will type in response to something. I wasn't saying it. I was saying that someone else is going to say it...
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My bad, didn't know.

Idiot said:
No one is getting paid less simply based on their gender. That is simply not true. it comes down to personal choices. Jesus fuucking christ.
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If you're too stubborn/unintelligent/idiotic (lol) to recognize the statistics, then there is no point me even talking with you. If you'd like to re-read the statistics I posted before go for it, maybe if you read it enough times you'll understand.

Here is the paragraph I posed before - "In 2015, female full-time workers made only 79 cents for every dollar earned by men, a gender wage gap of 21 percent. Women, on average, earn less than men in virtually every single occupation for which there is sufficient earnings data for both men and women to calculate an earnings ratio."

I will simplify it for you. This means in the same job working the same hours women make less.

Also, I'm surprised Solipsist hasn't commented on many of my posts yet, as he has done with most of the other non-conservative comments. I guess my arguments are too solid to intelligently debunk :).
 
Sheiling said:
My bad, didn't know.



If you're too stubborn/unintelligent/idiotic (lol) to recognize the statistics, then there is no point me even talking with you. If you'd like to re-read the statistics I posted before go for it, maybe if you read it enough times you'll understand.

Here is the paragraph I posed before - "In 2015, female full-time workers made only 79 cents for every dollar earned by men, a gender wage gap of 21 percent. Women, on average, earn less than men in virtually every single occupation for which there is sufficient earnings data for both men and women to calculate an earnings ratio."

I will simplify it for you. This means in the same job working the same hours women make less.

Also, I'm surprised Solipsist hasn't commented on many of my posts yet, as he has done with most of the other non-conservative comments. I guess my arguments are too solid to intelligently debunk :).
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One could also argue that women get less jail time than men when committing the same crimes, be it for better or worse. It is just part of the world we live in.
In case people have not noticed, females are different than males in more ways than one.
 
Sheiling said:
If you're too stubborn/unintelligent/idiotic (lol) to recognize the statistics, then there is no point me even talking with you. If you'd like to re-read the statistics I posted before go for it, maybe if you read it enough times you'll understand.

Here is the paragraph I posed before - "In 2015, female full-time workers made only 79 cents for every dollar earned by men, a gender wage gap of 21 percent. Women, on average, earn less than men in virtually every single occupation for which there is sufficient earnings data for both men and women to calculate an earnings ratio."

I will simplify it for you. This means in the same job working the same hours women make less.

Also, I'm surprised Solipsist hasn't commented on many of my posts yet, as he has done with most of the other non-conservative comments. I guess my arguments are too solid to intelligently debunk :).
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generally women negotiate wages less and are committed to their field less. the rest of that 21c can be explained by personal choice. all of the wage gap stuff is 30 year old arguments that have been fixed a long time ago. settle down young one.
 
Allybeboba said:
One could also argue that women get less jail time than men when committing the same crimes, be it for better or worse. It is just part of the world we live in.
In case people have not noticed, females are different than males in more ways than one.
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Yes, some studies have found that, although it varies based on location.

Although people in poverty and people of color have been found to get far longer sentences.

The sexist atmosphere in many places is still far worse than any minuscule advantages.

Btw if anyone wants to bring the topic back to trump vs Clinton I'd be happy to debate that too, this is actually more interesting than I imagined.
 
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Ha! Yea, I've seen a similar video before. I'm not an Obama supporter, but still better than a McCain/Palin team or Mitt Romney in my opinion. Besides, doesn't Trump have the "best people" for pretty much anything? I don't think they did all that well on this one and have a suspicion as to what their fate holds...


 
telle said:
Ha! Yea, I've seen a similar video before. I'm not an Obama supporter, but still better than a McCain/Palin team or Mitt Romney in my opinion. Besides, doesn't Trump have the "best people" for pretty much anything? I don't think they did all that well on this one and have a suspicion as to what their fate holds...


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Please...
If that is all the Clinton smear machine can come up with is attacking the spouse of the opposing candidate for reading a speech written for her that happened to have a few words (that were cliques mind you) in it. That happened to matched some a few of the words that was written for the spouse of another candidate over eight years ago, well then they are in true dire straits.

Reminds me of the article I read in the newspaper yesterday. The RNC had to change one of their elevator signs because people were getting offended. They had red, white and blue elevators. Guess which elevators were deemed offensive? Why not all of them? Why did it make national news?
Some people are looking to be the victim. That is why it is called "victim complex". Unfortunately our modern society and and to some extents governments act as enablers to these "victims" on perpetuating their "problem".
 
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Allybeboba said:
Please...
If that is all the Clinton smear machine can come up with is attacking the spouse of the opposing candidate for reading a speech written for her that happened to have a few words (that were cliques mind you) in it. That happened to matched some a few of the words that was written for the spouse of another candidate over eight years ago, well then they are in true dire straits.
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It will be in the headlines for the week and will be soon forgotten for the next inevitable gaffe. I don't think the "Clinton smear machine", as you put it, really had all that much to do with it. It happened yesterday, so of course it's making the rounds now. It's just the type of story that the media (left or right) generally eat up during an election.
 
Even the lowest of the low politicians don't normally attack family members. It is somewhat of a taboo subject matter to attack a candidate's spouse unless they are in the public( like Bill Clinton). For some reason it has been no holds barred with Donald Trump and his family.
The mainstream media has attacked his children, his parents, and now his wife. All while doing nothing to the Clintons. One must left to think the Clinton family are saints.
 
telle said:
It will be in the headlines for the week and will be soon forgotten for the next inevitable gaffe. I don't think the "Clinton smear machine", as you put it, really had all that much to do with it. It happened yesterday, so of course it's making the rounds now. It's just the type of story that the media (left or right) generally eat up during an election.
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Perhaps I should have worded it as the "Democratic smear machine". We all know both parties have people that cook this stuff up. And just as you stated, people are chomping at the bit to "eat it up".
 
Druiddroid said:

generally women negotiate wages less and are committed to their field less. the rest of that 21c can be explained by personal choice. all of the wage gap stuff is 30 year old arguments that have been fixed a long time ago. settle down young one.
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Honestly it's really that men are just smarter than women. Even with all the affirmative action programs, feminized education system and larger attendance in college, men still outperform women. If you got rid of all the benefits women have it would be like a 50c wage gap.
 
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