Trump Vs. Clinton, who will win?

[Conq]

if the World is gonna burn lets just get this shit over with.

I feel this way on occasion but I don't think that is the natural course of things, Trump causing something like that would feel...rushed. It reminds me of a poem which some may of heard of recently:

"I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."
-Percy Shelley

This poem is about the downfall of all empires, no matter how strong - time changes everything. I think it seldom occurs to people that America is only 300 or so years old, it's very young and has hardly gone through a number of stages of being that many empires do.

 

[Livingforce]

I think their both fucked as people and as politiions but I vote for trump.

 

[Purj]

The rest of the world is laughing.

Just vote for whoever you personally believe to be the lesser evil. Nobody can change things now.

 

[DeLindsay]

This poem is about the downfall of all empires, no matter how strong - time changes everything. I think it seldom occurs to people that America is only 300 or so years old, it's very young and has hardly gone through a number of stages of being that many empires do.

Unfortunately I feel like my Govt (by birth not choice) will destroy the entire Planet before giving up it's title of biggest bully of all the Humans... Merica!!

 

[trumplord]

I think their both fucked as people and as politiions but I vote for trump.

thank you

 

[Solipsist]

@Solipsist As much as you would like to put me in box and label me as such and such the truth is you have no idea what kind of person I am, and your opinions of me are based on limited interaction on an internet forum so...lol. I actually hate the media by the way, and I refuse to watch it.

I understand you are trying to bait me because you think me something i'm not so I will leave a few sentences and be on with my life and avoid derailing this thread.

Action matters in this world and discussing things with people you disagree with only serves to stimulate senses of which have no appeal to me, I would rather keep my opinions to myself and take action when appropriate, this is almost always how I see things.

You seem to care about my opinion a lot tho, so I will briefly appease your desire for discussion, though I will not continue to further indulge you:

Opinions don't matter in elections, or this country, winning a debate is not about being right or wrong it's about one's ability to articulate.

Money matters in this world and the only thing that I think can change that or any number of issues is far worse than Hillary or Trump and could very well be the downfall of modern society, thus I am content with my little corner of the world until the AK's and Drones start coming out.

By the way - I'm an Anarchist and I despise censorship on a moral level, it bothers me that I must do it on occasion, admittedly I get over it rather quickly. However the reality is that I only remove posts on this website when they threaten its ability to remain self-sustaining.

You are so oblivious to your own actions. You are like a fat black chick who says ''YOU DON'T KNOW ME!'' little do you know that there are hundreds of other black chicks who do and say the same thing. I have a great understanding of who you are. I deal with emasculated men like you on a daily basis. Like Doctors who deal with sick people, over time they start to notice certain symptoms and problems that arise from patients.

The fact you that you think that i'm trying to bait you into a trick or ''troll'' shows your lack of public scrutiny. You are insecure. Real men do not fear scrutiny and differing opinions. If you want to make me out to be a child, prove it. Debunk my ideas through rational explanation, not by censoring and demonizing everything I say.

Your third paragraph makes no fucking sense. Of course you should argue with opposing views, this is how you test the validity of their ideas. You demonstrate why society is so stupid now. Instead of teaching people to debate with facts and reason and put their ideas under scrutiny, we teach people to just ignore and censor who they disagree with.

Intelligent comment '' the wage gap between men and women is wrong because x y z''

Emotional reply ''Sorry that view is mean and sexist therefore you are wrong''

When you say ''opinions do not matter'' I have no idea what you mean because your not specific and accountable to what you're saying. Trump has made many good arguments dealing with immigration, PC culture and the weakness of the left. You are half correct to say ''articulation'' matters. You must be able to covey your feeling which is why Donald Trump is so popular because he doesn't sound like a monotone politician. Content and substance shares the platform as well. Trump isn't the smartest man on the earth, far from it, but he serves as a lighting rod which gathers all the frustration from Americans watching their country being destroyed by the left.

I mean you being an anarchist and hiding away really says it all. You avoid the problem, like you avoid and censor me. You don't understand the necessity of men being in charge of society nor do you understand the importance of order, function and principles that govern the way we live. We've neglected our natural design and gone into a culture that allows us to govern with feelings. You censored my whole argument on this so you can go back and read it, cba explaining this again.

 

[Conq]

You are so oblivious to your own actions. You are like a fat black chick who says ''YOU DON'T KNOW ME!'' little do you know that there are hundreds of other black chicks who do and say the same thing. I have a great understanding of who you are. I deal with emasculated men like you on a daily basis. Like Doctors who deal with sick people, over time they start to notice certain symptoms and problems that arise from patients.

The fact you that you think that i'm trying to bait you into a trick or ''troll'' shows your lack of public scrutiny. You are insecure. Real men do not fear scrutiny and differing opinions. If you want to make me out to be a child, prove it. Debunk my ideas through rational explanation, not by censoring and demonizing everything I say.

Your third paragraph makes no ducking sense. Of course you should argue with opposing views, this is how you test the validity of their ideas. You demonstrate why society is so stupid now. Instead of teaching people to debate with facts and reason and put their ideas under scrutiny, we teach people to just ignore and censor who they disagree with.

Intelligent comment '' the wage gap between men and women is wrong because x y z''

Emotional reply ''Sorry that view is mean and sexist therefore you are wrong''

When you say ''opinions do not matter'' I have no idea what you mean because your not specific and accountable to what you're saying. Trump has made many good arguments dealing with immigration, PC culture and the weakness of the left. You are half correct to say ''articulation'' matters. You must be able to covey your feeling which is why Donald Trump is so popular because he doesn't sound like a monotone politician. Content and substance shares the platform as well. Trump isn't the smartest man on the earth, far from it, but he serves as a lighting rod which gathers all the frustration from Americans watching their country being destroyed by the left.

I mean you being an anarchist and hiding away really says it all. You avoid the problem, like you avoid and censor me. You don't understand the necessity of men being in charge of society nor do you understand the importance of order, function and principles that govern the way we live. We've neglected our natural design and gone into a culture that allows us to govern with feelings. You censored my whole argument on this so you can go back and read it, cba explaining this again.

You're entitled to your opinion.

As for censoring your "whole arguement"

"F**these politically correct emotional f***ts, Trump 2k16 m8."

Yeah, I censored that.

I think you and I have something in common tho, we are not conflicted individuals.

 

[Solipsist]

You censored my 1k+ words on Homosexuality, Women, Liberals and Moderators.

 

[Conq]

You censored my 1k+ words on Homosexuality, Women, Liberals and Moderators.

Ahhh yes, I did. I also accused you of hiding your bigotry behind your intelligence as I did it.

 

[Solipsist]

Ahhh yes, I did. I also accused you of hiding your bigotry behind your intelligence as I did it.

I'm not a bigot. I welcome scrutiny and criticism of ideas. I don't censor and demonize people. I understand that there are views out there that i'm not going to agree with. The best way for me to disprove them is through debate, not through cowardly dismissing and censorship. Heck I've even had people persuade me to their arguments. I don't argue for the sake of arguing.

 

[Zelpher]

Trump is a fucking sexiest prick, and pretends to know it all to join dumb masses together.
He wants to stop global trade and fuck other countries over. He's one stupid mother fucker.
He gives us a bad image.
Clinton however is in charge of #Classified Information
She must be doing something right. And have the support of the government.

 

[Livingforce]

You are so oblivious to your own actions. You are like a fat black chick who says ''YOU DON'T KNOW ME!'' little do you know that there are hundreds of other black chicks who do and say the same thing. I have a great understanding of who you are. I deal with emasculated men like you on a daily basis. Like Doctors who deal with sick people, over time they start to notice certain symptoms and problems that arise from patients.

The fact you that you think that i'm trying to bait you into a trick or ''troll'' shows your lack of public scrutiny. You are insecure. Real men do not fear scrutiny and differing opinions. If you want to make me out to be a child, prove it. Debunk my ideas through rational explanation, not by censoring and demonizing everything I say.

Your third paragraph makes no ducking sense. Of course you should argue with opposing views, this is how you test the validity of their ideas. You demonstrate why society is so stupid now. Instead of teaching people to debate with facts and reason and put their ideas under scrutiny, we teach people to just ignore and censor who they disagree with.

Intelligent comment '' the wage gap between men and women is wrong because x y z''

Emotional reply ''Sorry that view is mean and sexist therefore you are wrong''

When you say ''opinions do not matter'' I have no idea what you mean because your not specific and accountable to what you're saying. Trump has made many good arguments dealing with immigration, PC culture and the weakness of the left. You are half correct to say ''articulation'' matters. You must be able to covey your feeling which is why Donald Trump is so popular because he doesn't sound like a monotone politician. Content and substance shares the platform as well. Trump isn't the smartest man on the earth, far from it, but he serves as a lighting rod which gathers all the frustration from Americans watching their country being destroyed by the left.

I mean you being an anarchist and hiding away really says it all. You avoid the problem, like you avoid and censor me. You don't understand the necessity of men being in charge of society nor do you understand the importance of order, function and principles that govern the way we live. We've neglected our natural design and gone into a culture that allows us to govern with feelings. You censored my whole argument on this so you can go back and read it, cba explaining this again.

No one cares for your wall of text gtfo with that shit, 100 characters or less scrub.

 

[Dorigon]

Does poll regard who we would vote for or who will win? I'd vote for neither, but Hillary should take it easily.

 

[Solipsist]

Trump is a ducking sexiest prick, and pretends to know it all to join dumb masses together.
He wants to stop global trade and duck other countries over. He's one stupid mother fucker.
He gives us a bad image.
Clinton however is in charge of #Classified Information
She must be doing something right. And have the support of the government.

How is Trump sexist?
How does he want to fuck trade up and screw countries over?
How is he stupid?

You give America a bad image because you just give bullshit statements that mean nothing.

No one cares for your wall of text gtfo with that shit, 100 characters or less scrub.

Fùck off you Aussie cùnt. 34-17 m8 34-17.

 

[Hobbes]

I feel this way on occasion but I don't think that is the natural course of things, Trump causing something like that would feel...rushed. It reminds me of a poem which some may of heard of recently:

"I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."
-Percy Shelley

This poem is about the downfall of all empires, no matter how strong - time changes everything. I think it seldom occurs to people that America is only 300 or so years old, it's very young and has hardly gone through a number of stages of being that many empires do.

Fucking hell conq you made my day! Favorite poem ever!!!!

 

[Fael]

Triggered

 

[Hobbes]

How is Trump sexist?
How does he want to duck trade up and screw countries over?
How is he stupid?

You give America a bad image because you just give bullshit statements that mean nothing.



Fùck off you Aussie cùnt. 34-17 m8 34-17.

9 year olds play this game....and people spewing hate and anger like you must be very accomplished in life.

Barking curse words isn't a nice thing to do.

 

[Snack]

Trump is full of hot air and empty promises. He is as populistic as they come. He knows what words and phrases are likely to make the headlines; "I'm gonna end ISIS" cool but how? "I'm gonna bomb them" great...

Hillary is a slippery snake as well, licking the arses of Wall Street

Some political commentator once said; 'The americans don't want a president smarter than themselves'. Well congratulations you've nailed it this time.

It seems to me, that you'll have to pick the lesser of two evils.

 

[Lines]

Voting for either is kind of scary.

Do you want to catch on fire and burn to death?
Or would you rather drown?
You can't win here lol.

 

[Druiddroid]

This poem is about the downfall of all empires, no matter how strong - time changes everything. I think it seldom occurs to people that America is only 300 or so years old, it's very young and has hardly gone through a number of stages of being that many empires do.

What "stages of being" are you talking about? Do these stages apply to modern day America?