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Opek2
Grandfathered
Suggestions: Limit gear to “Still Obtainable in game”
No incindo
No sader wep swaps
No double healer (gtfo rshams who think u do dmg no one cares just heal)
No double class (IE Double War or Double mage)
[doublepost=1542167344,1542167242][/doublepost]Idk what green whelp gear is but ban it
No incindo
No sader wep swaps
No double healer (gtfo rshams who think u do dmg no one cares just heal)
No double class (IE Double War or Double mage)
[doublepost=1542167344,1542167242][/doublepost]Idk what green whelp gear is but ban it
Guccifarts
Veteran
I was just giving a fresh idea and a way to possibly make this tournament more enjoyable and accessible to people who don't play disc, combat, fury, or surival. Every twink tournament has the same makeup. 75% of the teams are cookie cutter comps and a handful of guys who don't care and play their mains which get rolled by the cookie cutters....oh and the 1 group of guys sub 2700 in arena who play PMR or KFC and run the table with no gear because they know how to CC.
I'm not saying we should reinvent the wheel, just realign it...shake things up a bit
Enno
Legend
Double Class means you can't do Druid/Shaman/Paladin/Monk or really any class with a dual role. Do it per spec. Arms/Fury isn't cancer and neither is Fire/Arcane. Their shit DRs and it's "T3" classes that aren't THAT strong together.
Green Whelp Armor is Leather Chest w/ Vers + 5% 10s Sleep proc on Melee; so no Deadman's Hand either.
I agree no double healer, but please @Opek2 read my comment about Incendo, it's not that busted. You can lockdown a MM hard. Just ban the exploited weapon incendos. I think Sader weap swaps would be silly to ban and how would you even enforce that?
[doublepost=1542167767,1542167641][/doublepost]Gucci, I think you underestimate the synergy that would go in 3s teams. Yes they have pre existing skills and teamwork, but the playstyle is pretty vastly different. I think any team that puts in the legwork and knows meta/capabilities at this bracket will have a competitive chance. There's a lot of variability in comps I think you're forgetting especially when the tournament will be post 8.1 where several underrated specs will be present.
I do appreciate the fresh take, I just don't think a lot of people would agree on the foundation, especially when it's so arbitrary and soon to change.
Green Whelp Armor is Leather Chest w/ Vers + 5% 10s Sleep proc on Melee; so no Deadman's Hand either.
I agree no double healer, but please @Opek2 read my comment about Incendo, it's not that busted. You can lockdown a MM hard. Just ban the exploited weapon incendos. I think Sader weap swaps would be silly to ban and how would you even enforce that?
[doublepost=1542167767,1542167641][/doublepost]Gucci, I think you underestimate the synergy that would go in 3s teams. Yes they have pre existing skills and teamwork, but the playstyle is pretty vastly different. I think any team that puts in the legwork and knows meta/capabilities at this bracket will have a competitive chance. There's a lot of variability in comps I think you're forgetting especially when the tournament will be post 8.1 where several underrated specs will be present.
I do appreciate the fresh take, I just don't think a lot of people would agree on the foundation, especially when it's so arbitrary and soon to change.
Vehexmence
Veteran
Can't wait for all these enhancement shamans to come out and play :^)
Opek2
Grandfathered
I said no double class and gave examples like double warrior and double mage. And the obvious way of enforcing no sader swaps is DQ’ing anyone with 2 crusader procs, or in a fury wars case 3 crusader procs
Enno
Legend
Would that be present in details w/o resorting to buff watching? I just think its not as busted when there is going to be so many control comps to counter fury. Are you playing in the bracket currently? We've had some interesting wargames as of late. Up for a vote for sure, I'm not for or against too strongly.
As for the per class thing; you said double warrior and double mage, I just think that class restriction is too restrictive. I also mentioned those two examples too and mentioned their CC tends to DR and the specs that are complementing the "T1" specs such as Fury/Arcane, aren't strong enough to warrant a 1 per class ban.
Opek2
Grandfathered
If anything all exploited enchants should be banned from tournys.
Obviously the ammo isnt exploited and idk if anyones tested it in 8.1 i just dont play with many hunters. But ive been procced on by it 3 times in 1 minutes at 20s and its pulling like 1200, thats just broken
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[doublepost=1542168889][/doublepost]But a solid 39 3v3 tournament post should be set in place, atleast letting everyone know exactly whats planned without having to dig through OP’s comments
Obviously the ammo isnt exploited and idk if anyones tested it in 8.1 i just dont play with many hunters. But ive been procced on by it 3 times in 1 minutes at 20s and its pulling like 1200, thats just broken
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In reality the rules shouldnt be set until 8.1. That would just be the smartest way to approach this.
[doublepost=1542168889][/doublepost]But a solid 39 3v3 tournament post should be set in place, atleast letting everyone know exactly whats planned without having to dig through OP’s comments
Enno
Legend
@Opek2 come to 39s for a bit and get situated you can always add me or others we'll help ya out. The latest community is fairly welcoming ingame compared to its forum presence at times.
As for incendo, it's a very strong part of glasscannon MM play, but they can get caught up pretty quickly with the current meta in our bracket and get dominated by other comps. Incendiary isn't an exploit; but I'm referring to Incendiary on BoEs with scaled stats.
I agree as well, all exploited enchants should be barred simply due to their nature. This could incl. spellthread to BoEs as well. You can look at all the changes currently too @Opek2 so it's not too unwarranted to establish some rules when we know what classes will be tuned up. It's just under 4 weeks currently until changes. Warrior/Mage remain unchanged but Hunter does have a few changes along with Priest that are substantial. Like I said, throw it to a poll, but I'm pretty firm on the per spec over per class. My incendo one (heirloom incendo) I'm not for or against, I just think it would gut them a bit much to remove entirely.
As for incendo, it's a very strong part of glasscannon MM play, but they can get caught up pretty quickly with the current meta in our bracket and get dominated by other comps. Incendiary isn't an exploit; but I'm referring to Incendiary on BoEs with scaled stats.
I agree as well, all exploited enchants should be barred simply due to their nature. This could incl. spellthread to BoEs as well. You can look at all the changes currently too @Opek2 so it's not too unwarranted to establish some rules when we know what classes will be tuned up. It's just under 4 weeks currently until changes. Warrior/Mage remain unchanged but Hunter does have a few changes along with Priest that are substantial. Like I said, throw it to a poll, but I'm pretty firm on the per spec over per class. My incendo one (heirloom incendo) I'm not for or against, I just think it would gut them a bit much to remove entirely.
Opek2
Grandfathered
Chops
Soccer Dad
This tournament was mentioned off hand once or twice in previous threads.
There is no date set beyond "late feb, maybe"
There is no rule set in place.
We've had one conversation in disc about it.
Everyone just needs to breathe. Know that its not gonna take place for several months. I can appreciate the excitement. Hell, Im excited to play (and lose). But its very much in its infancy as an idea, much less as an event.
Opek2
Grandfathered
Okay so get the community involved and lets make this happen within the first 2 weeks of 8.1? Theres obviously a good amount of people already getting ready to invest in this
Enno
Legend
rmp mirrors only
Or THUG, or Cupid, or ManCleave, or KFC, or WW Turbo, or Dancing w/ Stars. There's a lot of really strong and even niche comps. Also you can welcome Spriest comps for the tournament as well.
Chops
Soccer Dad
Or check it out
We let 8.1 drop, let people get used to the changes while we make sure the people hosting the event have enough time to make it a good one.
To quote god himself... R-E-L-A-X
Enno
Legend
Honest to christ, just have a few inhouse round robins a few weeks. Let the changes drop and have the tournament post 8.1.5 whenever @Sanitarium is ready.
Chops
Soccer Dad
This.
If the community wants to help move it along, regular 3s nights with feedback on what is and isnt broken (is Greenwhelp REALLY broken in 3s? is Incendiary ammo? Is triple rogue still a cheese comp? How stupid is triple druid?) that would really be the best possible world.