To the F2P exploiters

MYT said:
Should clarify - I was referring to ruining the game via exploit. And I played 29 long before F2Ps existed and surely not going to stop because people that want a welfare account say I should. Nothing in the Blizzard rules against having a lvl 29 xp off - plenty there about terrain exploiting.
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I know what you meant, and of course Blizz doesnt have rules against it... Im just saying what you said is exactly the idea behind 29s for 20s, having fun by ruining the game for others.
 
OK. My issue with this thread is that, like so many threads, it takes an issue (wall jumping) and attempts to make it into another issue (F2P vs 29) even though that's a false correlation.

Both F2Ps and 29s play OP classes. Both F2Ps and 29s can do wall jumps. Both F2Ps and 29s can [fill in the blank with whatever you want to be mad about] so I'm tired of it. I'm keeping mental notes on who are the people who are turning regular issues into F2P vs 29 issues. I'm not going to be very receptive when someone turns the same argument back on you.

Be like Elsa and Let It Go. We live in the same bracket, if you can't find a way to get along you're never going to be happy here.
 
I find using the terrain as your playground is actually a sign of skill more than a cheat, probably even an artistic touch of FCing. In the majority of the cases, the ones QQing about them are those who cannot perform them.

I have have immense respect to FC's that can survive endlessly without using "exploits" (shout out to albino). But what makes my jaw drop every time are FC's that go places that I dont even know how to reach (and I've been places).

The Horde ToT kiting gets old after a bit (which, btw, used to be considered exploiting earlier on). Seeing people jumping on top of the Horde cart or the mountain next to the wall of the ramp to the alliance roof is fun to see!

Twinking is getting older, more people know all the nasty FC tricks and shortcuts. We're all humans after all, FCs eventually evolve and get new survival instincts, since their predators know all their tricks.

**Edit: After reading people talking about wall jumping.. Ive been wall jumping for a good 4 years now. I would just like to mention that wall jumping is NOT easy. To perfect wall jumping requires an insane amount of practice. I love competing vs FCs that wall jump, because I (often) am the only one able to keep up with them. So before you trash talk wall-jumpers, just take in consideration what theyre doing is not a cheap cheat.
 
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Just for my $0.02 cents I don't consider "wall jumping" to get on tunnels exploiting nor does anyone I'm aware of. But the old exploits to get outside the roofs on the horde/alliance sides to be unattackable and drag out game forever (no wsg time limits then) were exploits and I saw ppl get banned literally mid game for it. Again we'd report, gm would watch minutes later, they'd disappear from by and their toon was literally never seen again. Harder to catch now given shorter games, but still bannable.

Getting on an unattackable spot like side of the horse base is what I'm talking about. Taking a skilled shortcut to tot is not. Yes those jumps were once considered exploits too, but nobody ever got reported/banned for them - just shamed. The roof exploits led to bans, and side of horde base is the current day roof exploit.
 
I hope the mod realizes it wasn't my intention to start f2p vs 29 drama - I've just seen this exploit a lot lately and every single time it's a f2p, even though in wsg they're the minority. That's why I posted it here.
 
MYT said:
First I'd like to apologize to the vast majority of F2Pers. Only a small, morally deficient minority of you exploit. Nevertheless, the common exploiting I've seen in 20-29 WSG lately has been 100% done by F2Pers which is why I post this here.

Terrain exploiting on the side of the horde base to where nobody but pets, etc can hit you is an exploit. Exploits are bannable offenses. We're group reporting you when you do it, taking screenshots, and will continue to do so until you get a perma ban on your free account.

Today it was a warrior...other days it's someone else. The reports and perma bans will continue until the exploiting stops.

Have a great day.
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#butthurt a lot here, uh? pls guys, both f2p and p2f stop wall jumping, clearly this paid to fail got not enough skill to do them so before he asks blizz a refund to his sub due to some bgs lost because others were "exploiting" (after all he is paying and he deserve to win) PLS STOP

PS) do us all a favor: go to Gurubashi Arena, climb entrance to tents oversighting arena floor on ur right, jump from 2nd tent to 3rd... Once u‘ve made it, u already have enough skill needed to do 2/3 of wsg jumps.

PPS) maybe b4 trying, just open a ticket... If GM agrees u r allowed to do that, try it! U won‘t find urself cheating, don‘t u?
 
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MYT said:
Getting on an unattackable spot like side of the horse base is what I'm talking about. Taking a skilled shortcut to tot is not. Yes those jumps were once considered exploits too, but nobody ever got reported/banned for them - just shamed. The roof exploits led to bans, and side of horde base is the current day roof exploit.
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There are no half arsed exploits nor are exploits suddenly not exploits. Exploit = exploit. ToT = exploit = bannable. That blizzard closes an eye or doesn't have the manpower to keep busy all the time with this when people use ToT doesn't mean it is ok to do so just like botting (this mindset destroys wow). Rules are rules.
 
MYT said:
Just for my $0.02 cents I don't consider "wall jumping" to get on tunnels exploiting nor does anyone I'm aware of. But the old exploits to get outside the roofs on the horde/alliance sides to be unattackable and drag out game forever (no wsg time limits then) were exploits and I saw ppl get banned literally mid game for it. Again we'd report, gm would watch minutes later, they'd disappear from by and their toon was literally never seen again. Harder to catch now given shorter games, but still bannable.

Getting on an unattackable spot like side of the horse base is what I'm talking about. Taking a skilled shortcut to tot is not. Yes those jumps were once considered exploits too, but nobody ever got reported/banned for them - just shamed. The roof exploits led to bans, and side of horde base is the current day roof exploit.
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You can still get attacked on the side of the horde base my friend, I just stood far enough back that you couldn't hit me from the front, coulda ran around pretty easy.
 
Kincaide said:
OK. My issue with this thread is that, like so many threads, it takes an issue (wall jumping) and attempts to make it into another issue (F2P vs 29) even though that's a false correlation.

Both F2Ps and 29s play OP classes. Both F2Ps and 29s can do wall jumps. Both F2Ps and 29s can [fill in the blank with whatever you want to be mad about] so I'm tired of it. I'm keeping mental notes on who are the people who are turning regular issues into F2P vs 29 issues. I'm not going to be very receptive when someone turns the same argument back on you.

Be like Elsa and Let It Go. We live in the same bracket, if you can't find a way to get along you're never going to be happy here.
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i aint never going to let it go, im going to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ-jvEd0pDw


Honey badger said:
Can't we all be friends. 20 vs 29 gnomeball ? Lol

http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f43/gnomeball-saturday-august-10th-51530/

the good old days. I want in :p


btw I was the Fc on the other team when Efc FBellyz glitched, I wasn't offended at all.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5OXON8vIaA
 
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Malanior said:
#butthurt a lot here, uh? pls guys, both f2p and p2f stop wall jumping, clearly this paid to fail got not enough skill to do them so before he asks blizz a refund to his sub due to some bgs lost because others were "exploiting" (after all he is paying and he deserve to win) PLS STOP

PS) do us all a favor: go to Gurubashi Arena, climb entrance to tents oversighting arena floor on ur right, jump from 2nd tent to 3rd... Once u‘ve made it, u already have enough skill needed to do 2/3 of wsg jumps.

PPS) maybe b4 trying, just open a ticket... If GM agrees u r allowed to do that, try it! U won‘t find urself cheating, don‘t u?
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Learn to read before you post. I didn't lose - won quite easily. I tend to win - that's just me. I posted here to try to save F2P's from getting their accounts banned by appealing to them to stop it. If a GM sees them over there, they'll get at least a temporary ban.

Not going to enter into pointless banter with ppl I don't even know. Someday I'll make a F2P and come win in your bracket too but right now focused on a rapidly growing guild and 19/29. Your time will come.
 
MYT said:
Learn to read before you post. I didn't lose - won quite easily. I tend to win - that's just me. I posted here to try to save F2P's from getting their accounts banned by appealing to them to stop it. If a GM sees them over there, they'll get at least a temporary ban.

Not going to enter into pointless banter with ppl I don't even know. Someday I'll make a F2P and come win in your bracket too but right now focused on a rapidly growing guild and 19/29. Your time will come.
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It's easy for you to say how good you are when you haven't told us who you are.
 
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