This bracket in a Nutshell
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Swaggasaurus
Legend
stfu.
Druiddroid
OG
agreed
Druiddroid
OG
free, funny, boredom
Druiddroid
OG
True, they CC stuff and do significantly less damage.
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Srs
Legend
Taking down healers gives a certain amount of satisfaction, and I would put hunters in the sweet-spot right now. Not OP, decent damage (especially since 5.1) and plenty of crowd control. I would say they are in the sweet-spot, if you like a challenge.
Thinking of rolling one myself. I rolled Udders with the idea of pre-mading as Retribution, but it hits like an overcooked wet noodle. And Protection is op (except when compared to all healers and some 24s). Hunter seems like a good balance. You can actually do something for your team without getting roflstomped like you do as a pug mage.
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C O T U S
Legend
ok it was actually a trick question - hunters are always going to be broken and overpowered in BGs at low levels in this game. i just want to know if people actually think that they aren't good anymore, because then it makes it so much more satisfying to own them. this new talent setup looks really lame, though. you choose your specialization and then you get a total of 1 unique ability at level 20 and that's it? really? they needed to dumb this game down even more?! come on, man.
Srs
Legend
I understood what you're saying. What I was getting at is that I think hunters could be fun right now because what teams need more than anything else right now is someone with good damage, crowd control tools, and skill to use them correctly. Someone has to take out all these healers, and hunters fit the bill quite well because they are a very good and powerful class.
It has been said many times that hunters have the highest skill-cap, and if that is true, then you need to have some skill to reach their potential. Skill that most f2p hunters in cata did not have. Anymore, you can't just auto-shot and backpedal across the map and expect to top teh dps. One would actually need a modicum of skill and put in some effort into his play to excel right now. That's what I meant when I was talking about the "sweet-spot" (twice on accident) — not a faceroll, and not so underpowered you aren't viable.
I didn't realize I was replying to a rhetorical question, so boy is my face red. But if the intent of you question was legitimate then I think in all srsness: yes, I think you might have fun playing a hunter right meow.
Was it Miketyson?
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Druiddroid
OG
Their damage is too low for them to be OP.. not because of healers, but because it was reduced a lot
C O T U S
Legend
ok i remember her name, just have to figure out the account names/emails now. it seems like mages suck horribly now. warriors too probably, but actually having an intercept seems pretty legit. i'm not really buying that hunter damage is too low unless they removed pets from the game or completely changed how they work.
Deadvulcano
Legend
Arc mage is very strong, warriors are decent. Hunters now are about like arcane mages were in cata, but with more control.
TaXiCaB
Legend
am yet to see that
IF they would buff Slam(190%+102) or Wild Strike(which does not even do full weapon dmg now,a mere 98%) to
470%+213 like rogue ambush from 275% in cata, then yes warriors would be decent...and IF they would give an auto-applying 70% armor debuff/50% slow which does not cost any rage then YES WARRIORS WOULD BE DECENT...and IF i would have a passive 30% Str increase like rogues,and 20% speed increase at all times plus 25% damage increase on top of all that....then YES warriors would be great..better yet,if I would start out with 100Rage at all times like rogues and it would regen in combat, instead of waiting for that MS to come off cd
verh
Legend
And if only they had a gap closer like rogues! And a 25% dmg reduction, MAYBE THEN WARS WOULD BE DECENT.... and maybe if they could use shields and carry the flag like those rogues, then YES warrios would be great!
TaXiCaB
Legend
fine with me man...i would trade you the ability to wield 2hs and shields....any day sir
but back on topic ...sounds a bit retarded but hey i am tryin to balance things out here...blizzard added all these abilities to MoP rogues, idk why. You can be half-retarded and still play a rogue. Idk why did they take away s/s, might as well give that back with gouge and give em smoke bomb too
forgot give us Die by the sword since rogues get evasion
at this current time warriors remind me of "good-ol' classic vanilla warriors.Thats how effin bad the class simply sucked
You never had things like gag order,many talents were out of whack, damage was pathetically low.....a good rogue could solo you
with JUST his daggers(lvl 60 low-tier raid gear mind you)
or Then just pop Limited Invulnerability Potion - Item - World of Warcraft cuz it made you immune for 8 seconds to all forms of physical damage and i can still attack....damn i screwed so much warriors over in vanilla with this.Dont let kids bullshit you on forums because the class completely sucked garbage....no way of spike damage,most warrior abilities you see now never existed, all you had was ur basic charge/slam/bloodbath etc. A paladin could solo 5 warriors at once since the way seals were designed was paladins would get literally double the damage on you once you were affected by it...so gl with ur pathetic puny damage while he is hitting 4k TVs on you(most ppl had like 4-6k life at max lvl back then....when the game came out)
Gear sucked too major $%$#$# its funny seeing every single boss in dungeons drop blues haha they used to drop green items all time now you see all the good stuff...you had shit with sprit and str on it haha good items blizzard idk who worked on em...i guess they were in a hurry to release i imagine
but back on topic ...sounds a bit retarded but hey i am tryin to balance things out here...blizzard added all these abilities to MoP rogues, idk why. You can be half-retarded and still play a rogue. Idk why did they take away s/s, might as well give that back with gouge and give em smoke bomb too
forgot give us Die by the sword since rogues get evasion
at this current time warriors remind me of "good-ol' classic vanilla warriors.Thats how effin bad the class simply sucked
You never had things like gag order,many talents were out of whack, damage was pathetically low.....a good rogue could solo you
with JUST his daggers(lvl 60 low-tier raid gear mind you)
or Then just pop Limited Invulnerability Potion - Item - World of Warcraft cuz it made you immune for 8 seconds to all forms of physical damage and i can still attack....damn i screwed so much warriors over in vanilla with this.Dont let kids bullshit you on forums because the class completely sucked garbage....no way of spike damage,most warrior abilities you see now never existed, all you had was ur basic charge/slam/bloodbath etc. A paladin could solo 5 warriors at once since the way seals were designed was paladins would get literally double the damage on you once you were affected by it...so gl with ur pathetic puny damage while he is hitting 4k TVs on you(most ppl had like 4-6k life at max lvl back then....when the game came out)
Gear sucked too major $%$#$# its funny seeing every single boss in dungeons drop blues haha they used to drop green items all time now you see all the good stuff...you had shit with sprit and str on it haha good items blizzard idk who worked on em...i guess they were in a hurry to release i imagine
verh
Legend
You can be half retarded and kite a rogue, too.
Pallies also didn't have TV back then.