The double dichotomy proof of God

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Before religion everyone was an Atheist. Then they invaded your country, killed the men, raped the women, and forced you to convert.

uhh... before religion the concept of religious conversion literally couldn't exist. But i agree that people are shitty regardless of their religious beliefs (or lack there of), many people just happen to use their religion as an excuse for their ill deeds.
 
so stating a literal fact is a dumb statement? i fail to see your logic there. Do you really want to worship a god that senselessly murders the entire population of the world except two people instead of aiding people to see the error of their ways? Do you really think the murder of all but two human beings on the face of the planet is needed? You also have literally no proof that god made everything except a book that was created billions of years after the earth was, which i would never consider "proof"

Lol "billions" of years ago... Whered you get that information from? Haha
 
FrozenWill said:
You apparently didn't read my "Merry Christmas" post.

Saying 'Merry Christmas' is an empty platitude. You said it so you can feel better about yourself (and your beliefs), not so you could actually wish me a good holiday.

More to the point, you largely ignored my post, which was a direct response to the flaws of your post. If you came here for a discussion, you're not doing so in good faith. I've been honest, sincere, and given you nothing but the most neutral responses I can, intentionally avoiding posting inflammatory comments that don't add anything to the discussion. I'm trying to help you gain a better understanding of the world you live in, not call you names or incite anger.

Annymous said:
Before religion everyone was an Atheist. Then they invaded your country, killed the men, raped the women, and forced you to convert.

Pretty sure religion has always been around. Ever since people became self aware, they've always held some superstitious beliefs about the world they live in. Where else do you think these beliefs came from? Religion most likely started out as a common understanding of something existing beyond oneself, beyond the collective of people, and then evolved to incorporate every environmental phenomena not easily explainable by conventional wisdom at the time. Thunderstorms became angry gods. Earthquakes became vengeful spirits. Disease was the mark left by gods on the unfaithful.

Practically every person who lived that long ago was easily confused into religious belief as an explanation of the world they found themselves in. It's only been a very select few important people in recent history who have dared to shun religion, instead opting to bring about a different sort of enlightenment to humanity.
 
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i literally used google. Google aka the civilized world believes that the world is 4 billion years old prove me wrong

"I saw it on google so it must be factual"

Nice one!
 
Saying 'Merry Christmas' is an empty platitude. You said it so you can feel better about yourself (and your beliefs), not so you could actually wish me a good holiday.

More to the point, you largely ignored my post, which was a direct response to the flaws of your post. If you came here for a discussion, you're not doing so in good faith. I've been honest, sincere, and given you nothing but the most neutral responses I can, intentionally avoiding posting inflammatory comments that don't add anything to the discussion. I'm trying to help you gain a better understanding of the world you live in, not call you names or incite anger.



Pretty sure religion has always been around. Ever since people became self aware, they've always held some superstitious beliefs about the world they live in. Where else do you think these beliefs came from? Religion most likely started out as a common understanding of something existing beyond oneself, beyond the collective of people, and then evolved to incorporate every environmental phenomena not easily explainable by conventional wisdom at the time. Thunderstorms became angry gods. Earthquakes became vengeful spirits. Disease was the mark left by gods on the unfaithful.

Practically every person who lived that long ago was easily confused into religious belief as an explanation of the world they found themselves in. It's only been a very select few important people in recent history who have dared to shun religion, instead opting to bring about a different sort of enlightenment to humanity.

You started the discussion by responding to my post I made on this thread. I never had to respond back to it, but I did anyways...

And I don't see how saying Merry Christmas gave me an upper hand at all, since I made it clear I was done debating with you until you jumped in on another debate I was having. With someone else.
 
Pretty sure religion has always been around. Ever since people became self aware, they've always held some superstitious beliefs about the world they live in. Where else do you think these beliefs came from? Religion most likely started out as a common understanding of something existing beyond oneself, beyond the collective of people, and then evolved to incorporate every environmental phenomena not easily explainable by conventional wisdom at the time. Thunderstorms became angry gods. Earthquakes became vengeful spirits. Disease was the mark left by gods on the unfaithful.

Practically every person who lived that long ago was easily confused into religious belief as an explanation of the world they found themselves in. It's only been a very select few important people in recent history who have dared to shun religion, instead opting to bring about a different sort of enlightenment to humanity.
Everything you said had to be found and then taught. Before that, there was nothing.
 
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Annymous said:
Nah. It had to be found and then taught. Before that, there was nothing.

If you're talking about a specific sect of religion (Christianity, Judaism, Islam, ect), then yeah, someone had to found each one. But if you're talking about religion in general, as in 'the beliefs people base their lives upon,' then you're incorrect, religion has been around since people were self-aware.

The only difference is which god, what beliefs, and who in particular believed them.

You started the discussion by responding to my post I made on this thread. I never had to respond back to it, but I did anyways...

What was the point of you posting in this thread if it wasn't to have a discussion?

FrozenWill said:
And I don't see how saying Merry Christmas gave me an upper hand at all

It didn't give you an upper hand, it make you feel better about espousing your ignorant, nonsensical views.

FrozenWill said:
since I made it clear I was done debating with you until you jumped in on another debate I was having. With someone else.

I was responding to the post you made in response to my post. That's how discussion works. If you were done talking, why didn't you just not post again?
 
If you're talking about a specific sect of religion (Christianity, Judaism, Islam, ect), then yeah, someone had to found each one. But if you're talking about religion in general, as in 'the beliefs people base their lives upon,' then you're incorrect, religion has been around since people were self-aware.

The only difference is which god, what beliefs, and who in particular believed them.
I'm talking about religion in general. The first humans were concerned about food, water and shelter. Maybe a few nutcases had a little time on their hands. So they started a religion. Hence, before that everyone was an atheist or simply nonreligious. Actually, everyone is born nonreligious until you figure out your beliefs.
 
I'm talking about religion in general. The first humans were concerned about food, water and shelter. Maybe a few nutcases had a little time on their hands. So they started a religion. Hence, before that everyone was an atheist or simply nonreligious. Actually, everyone is born nonreligious until you figure out your beliefs.

there were religions before christianity you know... Religions concentrated on the objects around them like the sun are as old as man. Without education it's easy to become religious which is why most religious people are stupid.
 
I'm talking about religion in general. The first humans were concerned about food, water and shelter. Maybe a few nutcases had a little time on their hands. So they started a religion. Hence, before that everyone was an atheist or simply nonreligious. Actually, everyone is born nonreligious until you figure out your beliefs.

They were also concerned with why the sky seemed angry with them. Or why their young/women had a high mortality rate during child birth. And why food was more scare during different seasons. Gods and other superstitions became the explanations for all these problems early humans faced. Religion has always been around, even before organized religion.

Early man was significantly more likely to be religious than man today. I would have to disagree that anyone was atheist back then.
 
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Religion alienates so many youth, but it brings back older people. That's how it has been for thousands of years, and it is how it shall be forever so long as the human race exists!
 
so...why the fuck do you start a religion argument on a wow forum website?
 
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