i host 4-6 events for twinks weekly!More than anything, at this time & with respect to the way the game is these days,
it seems to me that for Twinking to be be great moving forward
We will have to make content for ourselves
Wargames & Arenas with other twinks, setting up world events & working together via in-game communities is the way.
Not unlike how that HC guys claimed Bloodsail Buccaneers on Classic era & just played they way they wanted to.
Maybe we should all pick the most desolate backwater RP server & just make it our own Twink realm?!
Why would anyone here have a problem with you?I'm just playing the game as intended /shrug
Just use search filter on bliz forum or even here and you are bound to find bias idiots pedaling "this is our bracket" "we been here first before you" " f2p abuse " and " won't somebody think of levelers " all while having alts in twink guild.I am an ex 19 and OG 20 who hates these post-SL squish 29s probably more than anybody on this site, yet I am inclined to agree with @Chops
Unless you or others can provide links to said threads that would correlate to the DF change to xpoff 20s, it sounds like dramatic effect to say that there was some organized community effort conspiracy to eliminate starter edition PvP.
It’s much more likely that the INCESSANT 8-10 man hunter fotm premades ran by at least NA 20s during SL was the tipping point for blizz to take action.
twinks bone their own
More than anything, at this time & with respect to the way the game is these days,
it seems to me that for Twinking to be be great moving forward
We will have to make content for ourselves
Wargames & Arenas with other twinks, setting up world events & working together via in-game communities is the way.
Not unlike how that HC guys claimed Bloodsail Buccaneers on Classic era & just played they way they wanted to.
Maybe we should all pick the most desolate backwater RP server & just make it our own Twink realm?!
Theres a whole video i linked that you could watch that, while focused on pvp, is applicable to this situation.
But 14 minutes of me rambling is probably a bit much so here's the short of it: All MMOs (and most online games) are a cooperative experience. If you can but wont play cooperatively with your peers to create an enjoyable experience for everyone, thats a pretty scummy move. And as a twink, you are actively attempting (and succeeding) in not playing cooperatively with your peers.
You're breaking the game, on purpose, and subjecting other people to a broken game. Don't say "but blizzard allows it!" to dismiss your own agency. "Access is not permission" as the saying goes.
And sure, some people enjoy the carry. But some people really dont. Logging on for your scarce couple hours of free time after work, only to be subjected to some goofball hero-pulling a whole dungeon so you basically just get to play a walking simulator isnt all that fun after the novelty wears off.
As twinks, we need to recognize this fact. You can argue that people *should* enjoy the free carry and theyre wrong not to, but that doesnt change the fact that many people dont. So you need to accept that in these situations you are knowingly engaging in a play style that ruins the experience for others.
Take some responsibility for that and act accordingly.
My twink is in my signature. He's a fully decked out Monk aside from getting 2x mechagon rings. I mostly do it cause it's fun to go fast and building up TW badges in case i want them for something.Why would anyone here have a problem with you?
You try to swim with sharks and surprised your dick is ripped off.
To me it looks like you just another one x2 lifesteal who got inspired by another x2 lifesteal you just seen recently and want copy cat a " lifesteal " expirience of others to the top of dps meter for personal erection.
- 10s do not need gear. all you need is x2 looms with enchant.
- If it is TW badges you care about then you should of made x50 alts some years ago when anniversary use to send out 500 badges & collect them over some years to not ever think about it again by this point.
- if it is a boost you are doing then pugs are not the place for it in general and if you do it there bound to be this sort of reaction. Nothing special.
- If this is some kind of middle finger to the game or a system - it wont help. You won't defeat evil by becoming it.
I do and did all that lol still madAsk yourself why you doing this in the first place and if you able to answer that then anything else should not matter to you.
- Never que as dps if you going to tank.
- Never que as healer if you going to tank.
- Never mindlessly run to endboss like a bot.
- Pay attention to aggro.
- Pay attention where your party at.
- Ask people if they wish to do side bosses or quests.
- Pull 3-5 packs and stand still while rest catch up and do some damage.
Do that and 99.9% of time you wont have issues.
Sure i been auto banned/unbanned by system for running 10s.
What's the fuss about a picking a fight vs leveler who won't even comprehend the concept what you are doing.
Place yourself in his position and see how degen it looks.
I have been thinking about this a bit recently and honestly the most fun I have had at 20 was during legion templates.I might consider a serious return if they brought back Legion templates. Looking back on it, that was the answer and Im sad they moved away from it.
i never said anything about a plan to eliminate starter edition PvP. players (even some on this forum) did do efforts and organize to move F2P and status of brackets, etc. i could easily play college woke teacher line and declare you need to provide SS of all the BGs that show 8-10 hunters in a BG, along with the armories of the said players. i find it more INCESSANT that people forget, are in denial, etc. in SL did not experience the BGs comps you claim, however i did experience huge hunter comps in BC, WOTLK and somewhat in CATA.I am an ex 19 and OG 20 who hates these post-SL squish 29s probably more than anybody on this site, yet I am inclined to agree with @Chops
Unless you or others can provide links to said threads that would correlate to the DF change to xpoff 20s, it sounds like dramatic effect to say that there was some organized community effort conspiracy to eliminate starter edition PvP.
It’s much more likely that the INCESSANT 8-10 man hunter fotm premades ran by at least NA 20s during SL was the tipping point for blizz to take action.
twinks bone their own
its very funny that one guy made an obvious troll thread on the blizz forums about F2Ps and the story has become that there was a concerted campaign by a population of twinks from one bracket to screw over another and (AND!) that blizzard fucking listened to them lolplayers (even some on this forum) did do efforts and organize to move F2P and status of brackets, etc.
I might consider a serious return if they brought back Legion templates. Looking back on it, that was the answer and Im sad they moved away from it.
it's kinda silly cause I get a lot of compliments and people saying stuff like "I wanna run with this guy" cause they enjoy the experience i've created in that moment.
you are knowingly engaging in a play style that ruins the experience for others
When you are playing an MMORPG, you are participating in a cooperative game experience with other people. If you're in a guild, say, that is committed to speed running dungeons then you are playing poorly with others if you stop to participate in the fluff. If you're in an RP guild, though, you are wrong if you're blitzing through content without pausing for fluff and RP.That could be said about a lot of different 'legit' play styles though.
I had people get mad at me for going too fast but also the opposite, I had people get mad at me for stopping to read fluff but also for not waiting when someone was lagging behind for doing the same, etc. And not just while twinking, btw.
So, where does the line get drawn?
I understand what you are trying to say, mind you. I just don't like the implication that there is an objectively correct play style even if I don't actually agree with Doogie's atittude towards the other player.
I don't think it's that they hate fun but like Chops kinda said. Its really cool to be carried. The first 9 times. Thennnn you kinda wanna hit your buttons. You kinda wanna hit the new cooldown you got. You kinda wanna use the trinket you got. You dont really wanna go from 24-30 without hitting any real abilities or be locked out of boss rooms for being too slow. And that's not exactly an experience we should expect people to be grateful for, or think is fun. Cause its not. Im hypocritical tbh. I love twinking. I hate not hitting things though. So I can understand their feeling. This normally has never been as much of an issue but I think with the anniversary event you have to keep in mind everyone and their mother was making 11 furys. So the novelty of the first X carries wears off really quick for people currently. As it was like every other dungeon it felt like.I didn't realize it was a video link mb. i'll watch it now
it's kinda silly cause I get a lot of compliments and people saying stuff like "I wanna run with this guy" cause they enjoy the experience i've created in that moment. Some people just hate fun, i think.
there's also a saying that goes something like: a system acts as intended, whether you intend it to or not. basically, no matter how many times you say "I intend for the system to work this way", however the system acts is the true intention. like irl, you can say PPE loans where to help small businesses during COVID, but actually the system allowed already rich people to get richer. very similar type of situation here.
you'd think if someone needs to do their 5 dungeon quest and only has like an hour or 2 that they'd appreciate the fast carry. also /shrug
that makes sense and will do. it's just silly getting it in chat was all.
No because that longer time to kill is allowing the other members or the dungeon to actually play the game and hit their buttons. That is the crucial difference that you are ignoring in an attempt to downplay the issueOur level 80 tanks pull timewalking exactly like we do they just don't have the dps we have so it takes longer. Are they also ruining peoples experience because they have spent countless hours gearing?
Does this pulling style mean that the 80 is soloing the content while the rest of the players simply auto-run behind them or does it mean theyre merely pulling big and holding aggro while the group clears the content as a group?Our level 80 tanks pull timewalking exactly like we do they just don't have the dps we have so it takes longer. Are they also ruining peoples experience because they have spent countless hours gearing?