Take it up with Blizzard, not me.

29 twinks used high level mains on wow forums to complain and site armories of 20s as a unfair advantage to levelers. ironically were using various exploits for several expacs to get into leveling BGs. they even linked their wow forum complaint thread on this forum. changes to 20s did not miraculously happen on DF prepatch. after legion (template merged BGs) there was a war between 20s xpon and 29s xpoff, 29s lost at start of BFA, 29s lost in SL, (both f2P/vet stayed xpon BGs) 29s finally won on DF and 20s were now considered XPoff.
I am an ex 19 and OG 20 who hates these post-SL squish 29s probably more than anybody on this site, yet I am inclined to agree with @Chops

Unless you or others can provide links to said threads that would correlate to the DF change to xpoff 20s, it sounds like dramatic effect to say that there was some organized community effort conspiracy to eliminate starter edition PvP.

It’s much more likely that the INCESSANT 8-10 man hunter fotm premades ran by at least NA 20s during SL was the tipping point for blizz to take action.


twinks bone their own
 
oh look, we've got a volunteer.
thanks, we'll all blame you when the fun police goes round to confiscate our toys.
thanks. thanks for nothing. :selaexit:
 
More than anything, at this time & with respect to the way the game is these days,
it seems to me that for Twinking to be be great moving forward
We will have to make content for ourselves
Wargames & Arenas with other twinks, setting up world events & working together via in-game communities is the way.
Not unlike how that HC guys claimed Bloodsail Buccaneers on Classic era & just played they way they wanted to.
Maybe we should all pick the most desolate backwater RP server & just make it our own Twink realm?!
i host 4-6 events for twinks weekly!
 
I'm just playing the game as intended /shrug
Why would anyone here have a problem with you?
You try to swim with sharks and surprised your dick is ripped off.

To me it looks like you just another one x2 lifesteal who got inspired by another x2 lifesteal you just seen recently and want copy cat a " lifesteal " expirience of others to the top of dps meter for personal erection.

  • 10s do not need gear. all you need is x2 looms with enchant.
  • If it is TW badges you care about then you should of made x50 alts some years ago when anniversary use to send out 500 badges & collect them over some years to not ever think about it again by this point.
  • if it is a boost you are doing then pugs are not the place for it in general and if you do it there bound to be this sort of reaction. Nothing special.
  • If this is some kind of middle finger to the game or a system - it wont help. You won't defeat evil by becoming it.

Ask yourself why you doing this in the first place and if you able to answer that then anything else should not matter to you.
  • Never que as dps if you going to tank.
  • Never que as healer if you going to tank.
  • Never mindlessly run to endboss like a bot.
  • Pay attention to aggro.
  • Pay attention where your party at.
  • Ask people if they wish to do side bosses or quests.
  • Pull 3-5 packs and stand still while rest catch up and do some damage.

Do that and 99.9% of time you wont have issues.
Sure i been auto banned/unbanned by system for running 10s.
What's the fuss about a picking a fight vs leveler who won't even comprehend the concept what you are doing.

Place yourself in his position and see how degen it looks.

I am an ex 19 and OG 20 who hates these post-SL squish 29s probably more than anybody on this site, yet I am inclined to agree with @Chops

Unless you or others can provide links to said threads that would correlate to the DF change to xpoff 20s, it sounds like dramatic effect to say that there was some organized community effort conspiracy to eliminate starter edition PvP.

It’s much more likely that the INCESSANT 8-10 man hunter fotm premades ran by at least NA 20s during SL was the tipping point for blizz to take action.


twinks bone their own
Just use search filter on bliz forum or even here and you are bound to find bias idiots pedaling "this is our bracket" "we been here first before you" " f2p abuse " and " won't somebody think of levelers " all while having alts in twink guild.

Sure there is no single illuminati deepstate 29s.
But they are too stupid for that in general.
There is however a Dipshitstate 29s.

Very same dipshits who went 24s from 19s first time 20s came around with every single advantage in a book.
Who ditched " i been 24 since alpha " to go 29 first thing when it was possible.
Who had premade groups for month in cata just to gy farm 20s.
Who cried "oh but why i can't log my account unsubbed while f2ps can".
Who went down to decked out 20s when 29s got locked out and couldn't get any games.
Same bunch on very same vomit of a page here who called themselves twinks while bragging about bug reporting to blizzard every single thing that brought any sort of advantage to 20s. Be that a tmog script, busted ilevels from lfd bags because "they cba to grind it", missed frag belt or the legion pre expansion gear.
To more modern iteration of " i am playing 29 to balance it out " while selfishly 1 taping any 20 in sight.

Just because you don't see single place where general idea of it is concentrated (and there was some bnet 29s exclusive grps out there a while back) does not change the fact that the movement to undermine any accomplishment 20s aim at exists.

People just can't get over the fact that you can play it for free and have better time than they.
All because guess what - your attention span is longer than tik tok video.

Thus they must go out of their way to sit in half dead que for 8+ hrs daily on a 29 just to make a point.
So yea mate, there is a dipshitstate 24/29s.


More than anything, at this time & with respect to the way the game is these days,
it seems to me that for Twinking to be be great moving forward
We will have to make content for ourselves
Wargames & Arenas with other twinks, setting up world events & working together via in-game communities is the way.
Not unlike how that HC guys claimed Bloodsail Buccaneers on Classic era & just played they way they wanted to.
Maybe we should all pick the most desolate backwater RP server & just make it our own Twink realm?!

Look in to Azeroth Core project.
You can have wsg (and more) vs bots run locally. On top of everything else that access to GM commands can give you.
If your goal is competitive games and not go out of your way to prove a point of how bad bots/solo play is - you can have far more entertaining bgs than most of what retail pvp can or could offer you over many expansions.
 
Theres a whole video i linked that you could watch that, while focused on pvp, is applicable to this situation.

But 14 minutes of me rambling is probably a bit much so here's the short of it: All MMOs (and most online games) are a cooperative experience. If you can but wont play cooperatively with your peers to create an enjoyable experience for everyone, thats a pretty scummy move. And as a twink, you are actively attempting (and succeeding) in not playing cooperatively with your peers.

You're breaking the game, on purpose, and subjecting other people to a broken game. Don't say "but blizzard allows it!" to dismiss your own agency. "Access is not permission" as the saying goes.

And sure, some people enjoy the carry. But some people really dont. Logging on for your scarce couple hours of free time after work, only to be subjected to some goofball hero-pulling a whole dungeon so you basically just get to play a walking simulator isnt all that fun after the novelty wears off.

As twinks, we need to recognize this fact. You can argue that people *should* enjoy the free carry and theyre wrong not to, but that doesnt change the fact that many people dont. So you need to accept that in these situations you are knowingly engaging in a play style that ruins the experience for others.

Take some responsibility for that and act accordingly.

I agree wholeheartedly. It's okay to have your cake, and eat it too! It eez what it eez
 
Why would anyone here have a problem with you?
You try to swim with sharks and surprised your dick is ripped off.

To me it looks like you just another one x2 lifesteal who got inspired by another x2 lifesteal you just seen recently and want copy cat a " lifesteal " expirience of others to the top of dps meter for personal erection.

  • 10s do not need gear. all you need is x2 looms with enchant.
  • If it is TW badges you care about then you should of made x50 alts some years ago when anniversary use to send out 500 badges & collect them over some years to not ever think about it again by this point.
  • if it is a boost you are doing then pugs are not the place for it in general and if you do it there bound to be this sort of reaction. Nothing special.
  • If this is some kind of middle finger to the game or a system - it wont help. You won't defeat evil by becoming it.
My twink is in my signature. He's a fully decked out Monk aside from getting 2x mechagon rings. I mostly do it cause it's fun to go fast and building up TW badges in case i want them for something.
This was my first complaint. it was just funny how mad they got just cause I was playing the game.
Ask yourself why you doing this in the first place and if you able to answer that then anything else should not matter to you.
  • Never que as dps if you going to tank.
  • Never que as healer if you going to tank.
  • Never mindlessly run to endboss like a bot.
  • Pay attention to aggro.
  • Pay attention where your party at.
  • Ask people if they wish to do side bosses or quests.
  • Pull 3-5 packs and stand still while rest catch up and do some damage.

Do that and 99.9% of time you wont have issues.
Sure i been auto banned/unbanned by system for running 10s.
What's the fuss about a picking a fight vs leveler who won't even comprehend the concept what you are doing.

Place yourself in his position and see how degen it looks.
I do and did all that lol still mad
 
I might consider a serious return if they brought back Legion templates. Looking back on it, that was the answer and Im sad they moved away from it.
I have been thinking about this a bit recently and honestly the most fun I have had at 20 was during legion templates.
It took like 30 minutes to get competitive gear so it was insanely easy to jump into. Levelers were not completely helpless either so ques were fast.

Sure some classes/specs were overtuned but when has that not been the case? Honestly though I would also settle for wod gear scalling as well
 

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