HairyTreeMan
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Shadowlands for twinks
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HairyTreeMan
Grandfathered
The end of the original bracket
The two assumptions I would make:
1) 19s will be scaled below level 10
2) There won't be battleground queues levels 1-9
shanker
OG
around a level 7.9, not sure if blizzard will use a round up or down squish?
pretty near all twinks are blown come shadowlands, but it also depends how PVP brackets are done, which may or not be like they are now x0 - x9. a 70 twink will more than likely be a 29 twink, if there is a 20-29 bracket, based on the math of a 120 going to 50.
if one wanted to take a chance now, building a twink level 45 xp off should be safe 18 or 19 if they round up. a level 46 now, shows at a 19.16, again may have to deal with the round up or down chance?
if you played twinks in BC before turning xp off wasin the game. blizzard did some patches and changes that affected dungeons like SFK, etc, and reduced XP required to level. a freind had a 69 twink,, he was only 20% into his XP bar, after the patch he was 1 XP from 70, did not pop him, but he could no longer leave orgrimmar. WOTLK rolled, and he popped...discovering ORG, he was UD, did GM tickets, they would not revert him
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Hashbrowns
Legend
Seriously guys, fraction of a level with rounding lmao It's not going to be linear.
Chops
Soccer Dad
They could squish based on total XP, level or even average time to level. They could decide there's no point in squishing toons below level 5. It could be a sliding scale, IE level 10s may only see a squish to 8 or 9 while upper levels are cut almost entirely in half.
Nobody knows. But things said in assumption on this site suddenly start getting repeated as truths and next thing you know some guy who spent several days and hundreds of thousands of gold pimping out a 45, assuming it would becomr a 19, starts screaming that blizzard fucked him over by only squishing him to 27.
Nobody knows how this is going to work yet. We may not know until the pre patch hits the PTR and even then it might get adjusted.
So let's all stop telling people how it's gonna work.
Nobody knows. But things said in assumption on this site suddenly start getting repeated as truths and next thing you know some guy who spent several days and hundreds of thousands of gold pimping out a 45, assuming it would becomr a 19, starts screaming that blizzard fucked him over by only squishing him to 27.
Nobody knows how this is going to work yet. We may not know until the pre patch hits the PTR and even then it might get adjusted.
So let's all stop telling people how it's gonna work.
shanker
OG
120 to 50, they said it, no assumption required
based on the math, one can use that to figure out other level squishes, assuming a standard based on the math.
however, i believe / assume, that players who have completed current starting zones etc which includes current player now up to level 25 will not be squished below level 10 in shadowlands
Chops
Soccer Dad
Imnotabelf
Legend
50 / 120 = 0.4167, if we use that a level 20 would be 8.33, 60 would be 25, 70 would be 29.17, etc.. However, we have no idea if this will be the actual equation and this does not account for rounding (which I assume Blizzard will do).
Winterly
Level 1 Hunter
Could you imagine a level 20 being level 9 due to rounding and not being able to BG.
Warglave
Veteran
Useless.
So here's the thing... we've also been told that DK and DH can use their original starter zones to get to level 10 (or apparently opt out of that, I believe) and those zones aren't really designed to progress thru 10 levels of linear content... right?
DK's get abilities every level or so, don't they? Been a while... DH get talents every level and abilities after 100 I think? Regardless, it's quite possible that 1-10 could be a separate type of leveling situation - saying that everything after 10 as it currently is NOW may fall into 11-50. It might ne a stretch, but I could see that happening.
Meaning 19 wouldn't get halved, it would basically get 9 levels of current XP worth above level 10. Just a number, not a level. 9 levels worth of XP above 10 in the new leveling system... or 19 current levels which might be even more than 10 levels of XP in shadowlands as well.
You remember how XP squashes reduce the amount of XP you require to gain a level, right? Something like that.
10-19 could be say 80,000 XP... not 9 levels. So it's not 1/2 of 9 ---> it's half of 80,000 XP. 40,000 xp worth of levels.
Or whatever the XP value is. Make sense? I'm, just saying above level 10 but it could just go from level 1 like that. But the fact that DK go by levels means that either their zone function needs a revamp or 1-10 doesn't function like 11-endgame.
Seeing that 1-10 is a completely new ZONE for new players, it serves to follow that it covers 10 levels of content. Eh?
OR they must finish the zone to leave, regardless of level... which is possible too. Like the gobs/worg/panda/DH and DK zones.
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Warglave
Veteran
I would guess 50 cuz blizz is dumb like that.
Rèvan
Veteran
Scaling wise, I wouldn't think it would be linear with level like a lot of you are suggesting. Someone suggested that it would scale with total experienced gained relative to the maximum experience obtainable (maxed at level 120), and that makes a lot more sense to me. I've stolen data from https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/9ztaj7/complete_81_xp_table_from_1_to_120_with/ to make some figures based off of this.
In the plots, 8.0.1 and 8.1 refer to those patches since xp per level was changed.The second plot, in particular, is probably a model that blizz will maintain pretty closely. You can change the x-axis to represent a fraction of total level as well.
Now, if we extrapolate the curve fit, saying level 50 (equivalent to 120) is 1, we get a graph to 60 that looks like (used 8.1 data):
Multiply the fraction of XP by the maximum XP (38130420) and divide by your current XP to get your new fraction of maximum XP. Match this up in the 3rd graph to get your new fraction of maximum level. Example: I main an 85 rogue. My current accumulated XP is 9938290. This number divided by the new max (38130420*1.424 = 54306842.99) = .183. Matching this up with the fraction of max level, I get .56, which is the new equivalent of .576*60 = 34.56 which does not equal 50/120*85 = 35.4. A table can be found below for twink levels based off this method.
In the plots, 8.0.1 and 8.1 refer to those patches since xp per level was changed.The second plot, in particular, is probably a model that blizz will maintain pretty closely. You can change the x-axis to represent a fraction of total level as well.
Now, if we extrapolate the curve fit, saying level 50 (equivalent to 120) is 1, we get a graph to 60 that looks like (used 8.1 data):
Multiply the fraction of XP by the maximum XP (38130420) and divide by your current XP to get your new fraction of maximum XP. Match this up in the 3rd graph to get your new fraction of maximum level. Example: I main an 85 rogue. My current accumulated XP is 9938290. This number divided by the new max (38130420*1.424 = 54306842.99) = .183. Matching this up with the fraction of max level, I get .56, which is the new equivalent of .576*60 = 34.56 which does not equal 50/120*85 = 35.4. A table can be found below for twink levels based off this method.
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flux1
Legend
I think the levels are going to scale also, but in a more simple method. They said allied races will start at 10, so that seems to be where 20s will be after the change. So anyone 20 or under will have their level divided by 2.
Above that leaves 100 levels to max which are being squashed down to 40. That is equal to dividing by 2.5. So if you are above 20 it would be your level minus 20 then that number divided by 2.5 and added to 10. For example a 70 would be 50 / 2.5 = 20 + 10 = 30 in Shadowlands.
Above that leaves 100 levels to max which are being squashed down to 40. That is equal to dividing by 2.5. So if you are above 20 it would be your level minus 20 then that number divided by 2.5 and added to 10. For example a 70 would be 50 / 2.5 = 20 + 10 = 30 in Shadowlands.
Merlin
Grandfathered
if this is the way to calculate, then a 119 would certainly be 50 lol .. would blizz be so kind to let lvl119 ding 50 without actually getting to 120 ?
Warglave
Veteran
They have never to my knowledge raised anyone's level to the next in the process of squashing XP. They just leave you 1 XP shy of the next level, even if your total accrued XP is more than is required to be that next level.
Seen that quite a few times, personally. Can't imagine it would be different for 50, not sure about lower levels as they're dealing in adjusting 1/2 levels now, I guess. I guess it's reasonable to assume that 20 now wont be more than level 10?
Hard to say because it's not (just) an XP squish, everyone will be a completely different level after.
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