PTR Shadowland and FTP/Veterans

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  1. Margooya

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    So, not sure if there's a similar thread somewhere, but in case, here it is.


    I assume lvl 20 toons will be reduced to lvl 10 in Shadowland, and that this will be the new FTP level cap. Now I haven't seen any confirmation of this, but it is a reasonable assumption.


    With that in mind, I looked at all the skills available at lvl 10. I added the skill that we could get at 20 in Italics.

    Warrior :
    Charge, Execute, Hamstring, Pummel, Shield Block, Slam, Victory rush, Whirlwind. Victory Rush 11, Taunt 14, Ignore Pain 17.
    Fury : Bloodthirst. Raging Blow 12, Titan's grip 14, Single Minded Fury 14, Execute rank3 18, Rampage 19, Enrage rank2.
    Arms : Mortal strike, Overpower 12, Execute rank3 18, Colossus Smash 19, Slam rank2 20.
    Prot : Revenge 12, Devastate 14, Execute rank3 18, Thunderclap 19, Vanguard passive 20.

    DeathKnight

    Anti Magic Shell, Mind Freeze, Death Grip, Death Strike, Runeforging, Death coil, Raise dead 12, Chains of Ice 13, Dark Command 14.
    Blood : Death n Decay, Heart strike, Marrowrend 11, Blood Boil 17, Crimson Scourge 18, Rune Tap 19.
    Frost : Death n Decay, Howling blast, Frost Strike 11, Obliterate 14, Dark Succor 18, Remorseless Winter 19.
    Unholy : Death n Decay, Festering strike, Scourge Strike 11, Outbreak 17, Dark Succor 18, Apocalypse 19.

    Paladin
    Lay on hands, Crusader strike, Divine Shield, Shield of the righteous, World of Glory, Flash of Light, Judgment, Consecration, Hammer of Justice, Redemption 13, Hand of reckoning 14, Divine Steed 17.
    Retribution : Templar's Verdict, Crusader Strike rank2 11, Cleanse Toxins 12, Judgment rank3 16, Hand of Hindrance 18, blade of Justice 19.
    Holy : Holy Shock, Holy Light 11, Cleanse 12, Holy Shock rank2 18, Beacon of light 19.
    Prot : Avenger's Shield, Crusader Strike rank2 11, Cleanse Toxins 12, Hammer of the Righteous 14, Judgement rank3 16, Consecration rank2 18, Mastery Divine Bulwark rank2 19.

    Shaman
    Primal Strike, Flametongue, Earthbind Totem, Lightning bolt, Ghost wolf, Healing Surge, Flame Shock, Wind Shear 12, Ancestral Spirit 13, Far sight 14, Frost Shock 17.
    Elemental : Earth Shock, Lava Burst 11, Cleanse Spirit 18, Lava Burst rank2 20.
    Enhance : Windfury weapons, Lava Lash 11, Cleanse Spirit 18, Stormstrike 20.
    Resto : Riptide, LavaBurst 11, Purify Spirit 18, Tidal Waves 20, Lavaburst rank2 20.

    Hunter
    Arcane Shot, Cheetah, Disengage, Exilaration, Freezing trap, Hunter's mark, Scare Beast, Steady Shot, Wing Clip. Call Pet3 17, Flare 19.
    Beast : Barbed Shot, Kill Command, Pack Tactics 11, Barbed shot 12, Concussive Shot 13(replaces wingclip), Cobra Shot 14, Counter Shot 18, Bestial Wrath 20
    Marks : Aimed Shot, Steady Shot rank2 11, Bursting Shot 12, Concussive SHot 13 (replaces wing clip), Arcane Shot rank2 14, Counter Shot 18, Rapid Fire 20.
    Survival : Raptor strike, Kill Command 11, Serpent Sting 12, Wing Clip rank2 13, Harpoon 14, Muzzle 18, Wildfire Bomb 20.

    Rogue

    Slice n Dice, Cheap Shot, Poisons(instant), Vial, Sprint, Kick, Eviscerate, Ambush, Stealth, Sinister strike, Sap 11, Kidney Shot 13, Pick Lock 14.
    Assassination : Garrote 12, Deadly Poison 13, Mutilate 16, Rupture 17, Shadowstep 18, Fan of Knives 19.
    Outlaw : Pistol Shot 12, Between the eyes 17, Grappling Hook 18, Blade Flurry 19.
    Subtlety : Shadowstrike 12, Shuriken Toss 14, Backstab 16, Rupture 17, Shadowstep 18, Shuriken Storm 19.

    Demon Hunter
    Glide, Fel rush, Chaos Strike, Demon Bite, Spectral sight, double jump, Torment, Demonic Wards 13, Consume Magic 17, Immolation Aura 18, throw Glaive 19, Metamorphosis 20.
    Havoc : Mastery Demonic Presence 10, Eye beam 11, Blade dance 12, Chaos Strike rank2 14, Metamorphosis rank2 20.
    Vengeance : Shear, Fiery Brand, Infernal Strike, Demon Spike, Soul Cleave, Mastery Fel Blood, Fel Devastation 11, Sigil of Flame 12, Demonic Wards 13, Soul Cleave rank2 14, Metamorphosis rank2 20.

    Druid
    Travel Form, Bear Form, Cat Form, Dash, Entangling roots, Ferocious Bite, Mangle, Moonfire, Regrowth, Shred, Wrath, Revive 13, Aquatic Form 13, Growl 14, Prowl 17, Ironfur 18, Travel Form rank2 20.
    Balance : Starfire, Wrath, Eclipse 11, Starsurge 12, Remove corruption 19.
    Feral : Rake, Mastery Razor Claws, Thrash 11, Tiger's Fury 12, Feral Instinct 16, Remove corruption 19, Feline Adept 19.
    Guardian : Maul, Mastery Nature's Guardian, Thrash 11, Bear Form rank2 12, Remove corruption 19.
    Resto : Rejuvenation, Mastery Harmony, Swiftmend 11, Ironbark 12, Nature's Cure 19.

    Monk
    Blackout Kick, Spinning crane kick, Touch of death (oh no...), Roll, Crackling Jade Lightning, Expel Harm, Leg Sweep (fu*k...), Vivify, Tiger Palm, Zen Pilgrimage 11, Resucitate 13, Provoke 14.
    Brewmaster : Blackout Kick, Spinning Crane Kick, Mastery Elusive Brawler, Stagger 12, Shuffle 17, Spear Hand Strike 18, Brewmaster's Balance 19.
    Misweaver : Rising Sun Kick, Mastery Bust of Mist, Enveloping Mist 12, Soothing Mist 17, Renewing Mist 18, Teaching of the Monastery 19.
    Windwalker : Rising Sun Kick, Mastery Combo Strikes, Fists of Fury 12, Blackout Kick rank2 17, Spear Hand Strike 18, Windwalking 19.

    Mage
    Fire Blast, Polymorph, Frost Nova, Counterspell, Blink, Frostbolt, Arcane Explosion, Arcane Intellect, Slow fall, Conjure Refreshment, Teleport (city) 11.
    Arcane : Arcane Barrage, Arcane Blast, Mastery Savant, Slow 12, Arcane Missiles 13, Clearcasting 14, Conjure Mana Gem 17, Arcane Explosion 18, Alter Time 19.
    Fire : Fireball, Mastery Ignite, Pyroblast 12, Scorch 13, Flamestrike 14, Hot Streak 17, Fire Blast rank2 18, Phoenix Flames 19.
    Frost : Ice Lance , Mastery Icicles, Water Elemental 12, Finger of Frost 13, Blizzard 14, Shatter 17, Cone of Cold 18, Flurry 19.

    Priest
    Flash Heal, Smite, Power word Shield, Fade, Power word Fortitude, Shadow word Pain, Psychic Scream, Mind Blast, Desperate prayer, Resurrection, Shadow Word Death 14, Fade rank2 17.
    Discipline : Mastery Grace, Penance 11, Atonement 12, Smite rank2 13, Purify 18, Mind Blast rank 2 18, Shadow mend 19, Shadowfiend 20.
    Holy : Mastery Echo of Light, Holy word Serenity 11, Renew 12, Smite rank2 13, Heal 15, Purify 18, Holy Fire 19.
    Shadow : Mastery Shadow Weaving, Mind Flay 11, Shadow Form 12, Mind Blast rank2 13, Vapiric touch 15, Dispersion 16, Purify Disease 18, Shadow Mend 19, Devouring Plague 20, Shadowfiend 20.

    Warlock
    Fear, Shadow Bolt, Summon Demon (Imp, Void), Unending Resolve, Create Healthstone, Health Funnel, Corruption, Curse of Weakness, Drain Life, Sould shards, Curse of Exhaustion 12, Eye of Killrog 17, Unending Breath 18, Succubus 19
    Affliction : Agony, Mastery Potent Afflictions, Malefic Rupture 11, Unstable Affliction 13, Corruption rank2 14.
    Demonology : Hand of Guldan, Mastery Master Demonologist, Felguard, Call dreadstalkers 13, Demonblot 14.
    Destruction : Chaos Bolt(ffs), Incinerate, Mastery Chaotic Energies, Conflagrate 13, Backdraft 14.


    Of course a lot of thing might change, but that's the state of things right now. Some classes look pretty Effed up. Fury warriors dont even have rampage.

    Good news though, all the transmogs up to BFA are available!

    Edit : updated most classes to reflect current build, and added abilities up to 20 (if we get them).
     
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  2. Chey

    Chey Grandfathered

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    love artifact Tmog
    Hope they nerf sader if wars get kick!
    Mage with kick is scary too!
    Hunters with scare beast is going to suck for feral and FCs

    All in all looks like game play will be more exciting or completely unplayable depending on health pools and damage output.

    Looking forward to it, big changes
     
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    Margooya

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    I was looking forward to Enhancement shaman, looks like that's not gonna happen. Fury warriors look like they might be out as well.
     
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  4. Chops

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    fury is gonna be fine. Just vastly different than it is now
     
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  5. ohti

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    I'm very curious to see how two handed windfury plays out. Regardless, enhance will probably be in a better spot than it's in now, so that's exciting.
     
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  6. Daltert Moropi

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    ... demon hunters, I expect a lot of demon hunters in the next expansion...
     
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  7. ohti

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    I think death knights will be even stronger.
     
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  8. Daltert Moropi

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    Strong tanks might be good, but a speedy tank is better.

    ... and this is coming from a guy that mainly plays the tanking class a lot.
     
  9. Chops

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    Yea it kind blows that DH and DKs more or less get a complete kit while like... surv hunters get wing clip and raptor strike lol.
     
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    I'm worried about frost, not blood. If veng sucks, then DH won't be that great (havoc loses blade dance.)
     
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  11. Chops

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    The sheer mobility is gonna be annoying. Hopefully its moderately balanced by grip.
     
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  12. ohti

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    Now that I think of it... (theoretically, of course) hunter losing conc and DK losing chains is quite possibly a huge indirect buff to DH.
     
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  13. Chops

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    slow pets gonna be important because I think its the only ranged slow in the bracket now.
     
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  14. ohti

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    I like the sound of that.
     
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  15. icehawk

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    I just noticed Hunters get Steel Trap, which immobilises a target and makes them bleed. I hadn't seen that before on the calculator. I hope it stays.... Can't wait to trap them pesky Rogues....
    But in terms of Tanks, Prot Warrior is looking juicy.... with a slow, aoe & also interupt. Blood DK seems to have all those, and the anti-magic shield. If mages are like BFA, I think I might roll myself a Blood DK ;)
     
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  16. Chops

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    LOL DID FROSTBOLT GET REMOVED FROM THE GAME ENTIRELY!?

    Thats gotta be a database error on wowheads part, right?
     
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  17. ohti

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    No way...

    Must be an error. LMAO
     
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  18. Chops

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    thats like a second or third tier talent though. Vets wont even get first tier

    Edit: Worth noting this also means we wont have access to PVP talents so our trinket will actually have to take up a trinket slot now.
     
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  19. icehawk

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    Oh, crap. That sux.
    I hadn’t seen the trap before, but just noticed it as a Surv talent. Still showing in the calculator though.
    Man, my hopes are all crushed now.
     
  20. Rhaellia

    Rhaellia classy af

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    Only thing in this thread that matters yo.
     
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