PTR Shadowland and FTP/Veterans

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  1. Margooya

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    So, not sure if there's a similar thread somewhere, but in case, here it is.


    I assume lvl 20 toons will be reduced to lvl 10 in Shadowland, and that this will be the new FTP level cap. Now I haven't seen any confirmation of this, but it is a reasonable assumption.


    With that in mind, I looked at all the skills available at lvl 10.

    Warrior :
    Charge, Execute, Hamstring, Pummel, Shield Block, Slam, Victory rush, Whirlwind.
    Fury :
    Bloodthirst. Raging Blow at 12. Titan's grip at 14. Rampage at 19 :(
    Arms :
    Mortal strike
    Prot :
    nothing

    DeathKnight

    Anti Magic Shell, Mind Freeze, Death Grip, Death Strike, Runeforging, Death coil
    Rune strike (1rune, phys damage, cannot be dodged blocked parried)
    Blood : Death n Decay, Heart strike
    Frost : Death n Decay, Howling blast
    Unholy : Death n Decay, Festering strike

    Paladin
    Lay on hands, Crusader strike, Divine Shield, Shield of the righteous, World of Glory, Flash of Light, Judgment, Consecration, Hammer of Justice.
    Retribution : Templar's Verdict
    Holy : Holy Shock
    Prot : Avenger's Shield

    Shaman
    Primal Strike, Flametongue, Earthbind Totem, Lightning bolt, Ghost wolf, Healing Surge, Flame Shock,
    Elemental : Earth Shock (no lava burst(11)
    Enhance : Windfury weapon (no Lava lash (11) or stormstrike (20))
    Resto : Riptide

    Hunter
    Arcane Shot, Cheetah, Disengage, Exilaration, Freezing trap, Hunter's mark, Scare Beast, Steady Shot, Wing Clip. Seems like you can maybe unlock steel trap through your trainer?
    Beast : Barbed Shot, Kill Command (no concussive)
    Marks : Aimed Shot (No concussive (13))
    Survival : Raptor strike ( no Kill Command (11) or sting (12))

    Rogue

    Slice n Dice, Cheap Shot, Poisons(instant), Vial, Sprint, Kick, Eviscerate, Ambush, Stealth, Sinister strike
    Assassination : Garrote
    Outlaw : Pistol Shot (no Between the eyes(26) or Grappling Hook (18)
    Subtlety : Shadowstrike

    Demon Hunter
    Glide, Fel rush, Chaos Strike, Demon Bite, Spectral sight, double jump, Torment, Throw Glaive
    Havoc : Nothing (eye beam (11) Blade dance (12)
    Vengeance : Shear, Fiery Brand, Infernal Strike, Demon Spike, Soul Cleave

    Druid
    Travel Form, Bear Form, Cat Form, Dash, Entangling roots, Ferocious Bite, Mangle, Moonfire, Regrowth, Shred,
    Balance : Starfire, Wrath
    Feral : Wrath, Rake
    Guardian : Wrath, Maul
    Resto : Rejuvenation (no Swiftmend (11))

    Monk
    Blackout Kick, Spinning crane kick, Touch of death (oh no...), Roll, Crackling Jade Lightning, Expel Harm, Leg Sweep (fu*k...), Vivify, Tiger Palm
    Brewmaster : Expel Harm rank2, Invoke Niuzao, Keg Smash, Vivify rank2, Spinning Crane Kick rank2
    Misweaver : Rising Sun Kick, Soothing Mist,
    Windwalker : Vivify rank2, Rising Sun Kick

    Mage
    Fire Blast, Polymorph, Frost Nova, Counterspell, Blink, Frosbolt, Arcane Explosion, Arcance Intellect, Slow fall, Conjure Refreshment
    Arcane : Arcane Barrage, Arcane Blast ( no arcane missile (13) Evocation(20))
    Fire : Fireball ( no Pyroblast (12) Scorch (13)
    Frost : Ice Lance ( no Elemantal (12) Blizzard (18) Flurry (20))

    Priest
    Flash Heal, Smite, Power word Shield, Fade, Power word Fortitude, Shadow word Pain, Psychic Scream, Mind Blast, Desperate prayer
    Discipline : Penance
    Holy : Holy word Serenity, Holy fire
    Shadow : Shadow Form, Mindflay

    Warlock
    Fear, Shadow Bolt, Summon Demon (Imp, Void), Unending Resolve, Create Healthstone, Health Funnel, Corruption, Curse of Weakness, Drain Life
    Affliction : Agony
    Demonology : Summon Felguard, Hand of Guldan
    Destruction : Conflagrate, Immolate, Chaos Bolt(ffs), Incinerate


    Of course a lot of thing might change, but that's the state of things right now. Some classes look pretty Effed up. Fury warriors dont even have rampage.

    Good news though, all the transmogs up to BFA are available!





     
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  2. Chey

    Chey Grandfathered

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    love artifact Tmog
    Hope they nerf sader if wars get kick!
    Mage with kick is scary too!
    Hunters with scare beast is going to suck for feral and FCs

    All in all looks like game play will be more exciting or completely unplayable depending on health pools and damage output.

    Looking forward to it, big changes
     
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    Margooya

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    I was looking forward to Enhancement shaman, looks like that's not gonna happen. Fury warriors look like they might be out as well.
     
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  4. Chops

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    fury is gonna be fine. Just vastly different than it is now
     
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  5. ohti

    ohti ! Moderator 20s Coordinator <TF>

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    I'm very curious to see how two handed windfury plays out. Regardless, enhance will probably be in a better spot than it's in now, so that's exciting.
     
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  6. Daltert Moropi

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    ... demon hunters, I expect a lot of demon hunters in the next expansion...
     
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  7. ohti

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    I think death knights will be even stronger.
     
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  8. Daltert Moropi

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    Strong tanks might be good, but a speedy tank is better.

    ... and this is coming from a guy that mainly plays the tanking class a lot.
     
  9. Chops

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    Yea it kind blows that DH and DKs more or less get a complete kit while like... surv hunters get wing clip and raptor strike lol.
     
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    I'm worried about frost, not blood. If veng sucks, then DH won't be that great (havoc loses blade dance.)
     
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  11. Chops

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    The sheer mobility is gonna be annoying. Hopefully its moderately balanced by grip.
     
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  12. ohti

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    Now that I think of it... (theoretically, of course) hunter losing conc and DK losing chains is quite possibly a huge indirect buff to DH.
     
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  13. Chops

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    slow pets gonna be important because I think its the only ranged slow in the bracket now.
     
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  14. ohti

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    I like the sound of that.
     
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  15. icehawk

    icehawk The Beast Within

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    I just noticed Hunters get Steel Trap, which immobilises a target and makes them bleed. I hadn't seen that before on the calculator. I hope it stays.... Can't wait to trap them pesky Rogues....
    But in terms of Tanks, Prot Warrior is looking juicy.... with a slow, aoe & also interupt. Blood DK seems to have all those, and the anti-magic shield. If mages are like BFA, I think I might roll myself a Blood DK ;)
     
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  16. Chops

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    LOL DID FROSTBOLT GET REMOVED FROM THE GAME ENTIRELY!?

    Thats gotta be a database error on wowheads part, right?
     
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  17. ohti

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    No way...

    Must be an error. LMAO
     
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  18. Chops

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    thats like a second or third tier talent though. Vets wont even get first tier

    Edit: Worth noting this also means we wont have access to PVP talents so our trinket will actually have to take up a trinket slot now.
     
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  19. icehawk

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    Oh, crap. That sux.
    I hadn’t seen the trap before, but just noticed it as a Surv talent. Still showing in the calculator though.
    Man, my hopes are all crushed now.
     
  20. Rhaellia

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    Only thing in this thread that matters yo.
     
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