Rerolling a character over and over for sockets

[raziel83]

What spec are you rolling, holy?

Yeah holy. Wonder if that blue mace (or the tiragarde sound one) with a socket is better than a boe socket green on PTR atm.

Do you know if https://www.wowhead.com/item=28311/revenger?bonus=6710 procs off judgement as holy? That's another option.

 

[glancealot]

socket is really weak for hpal because you get 2int/2haste or 2int/2vers, that's it.

so if something offered 5 speed (on PTR), i would think that is better than a socket.

 

[Hashbrowns]

My opinion for BiS maces (don't play hpally but what I've seen)
1. https://www.wowhead.com/item=2243/hand-of-edward-the-odd?fromClassic&bonus=6661
2. BoE with perfect stats and socket
3. BfA Rare with socket
4. https://www.wowhead.com/item=31304/the-essence-focuser?bonus=6659

3 and 4 might swap, depends which gives more total effective health/your play style.
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socket is really weak for hpal because you get 2int/2haste or 2int/2vers, that's it.

so if something offered 5 speed (on PTR), i would think that is better than a socket.

Or 6 stamina 4 armor.

inb4 stamina stacking is bad

6 stamina > 2 vers all day in terms of total health.

 

[Warglave]

Gug'tol

That's one of the apexis rares that were dropping ilvl 44 loot right at prepatch or launch, every one but the ilvl 44 staff rare has been fixed in some way. I dont think you can equip his drop even if you get it now, but not 100% on that.

 

[raziel83]

1. Hand of Edward the Odd

Yeah I saw that. With a https://www.wowhead.com/item=1168/skullflame-shield?bonus=6661 would be god tier imo. I know you can farm the shield with a lvl 17-18 but does the mace even drop outside of raids (which we can't enter). Maybe a eternium lock box?

Probably should have mentioned earlier that I want a purely offensive hpal. Want to see it's max damage. Even using avenging light.

 

[glancealot]

i am going for this, warforge+speed/leech.

https://www.wowhead.com/item=110047/soulcutter-mageblade?bonus=6652

 

[raziel83]

i am going for this, warforge+speed/leech.

Soulcutter Mageblade

Not a bad idea. Does the warforge actually add stats though?

 

[glancealot]

it does. dropped for the 60 first run...never dropped again, about 50 runs now. i have the 2-h mace though.

 

[Warglave]

Does the warforge actually add stats though?

It'll be an epic proc, 1 ilvl to 26 (unless the ptr changed that).

From everything posted here it looks like the green BoE are your best bet, factoring all the variables and aggravation.

 

[raziel83]

it does

By how much?

 

[glancealot]

ok can link some pictures of the 2-h mace and 2-h staff in a bit. you can look at the numbers and take an educated guess. cuz i don't know for sure myself.

 

[raziel83]

From everything posted here it looks like the green BoE are your best bet, factoring all the variables and aggravation.

Ya prolly. Otherwise I'll never actually get inside a BG
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take an educated guess

So maybe +1 int and +1 secondary on the sword. The sword's base int is 19 on PTR so a warforge to 20 int would be cool. But if I don't care about speed / leech then farming up a socket green on a lvl 22 is probably better. Hpal is hard :<

 

[glancealot]

my feeling so far is that the 60's gear level helps. all 216+ gears? 1 warforge every 2 drops. 187? 1 warforge every 5 drops.

i mean, most likely completely unrelated though.

 

[Warglave]

Usually the epic upgrades will change 1 stat up 1 point, it's hard to predict which one. Could be main stat, usually isnt.

Things with large values (like haste procs) can go up a few points from ilvl 25 to 26.

 

[glancealot]

i prob end up going for speed instead of warforged+speed, not worth the effort.

 

[Dj3nka]

Anyone done this? For a socketed bramble staff maybe?

I rerolled alot of warriors untill i got mine with a socket. I hoped i could get the rares to proc epic but its not a big deal.

As a feral i'd to for warforged/epic version as it gives bonus dmg and enchant bonus dmg for best results

 

[fungchewuchi]

https://xpoff.com/threads/guide-which-gear-can-upgrade-socket-tertiary-stats-warforge.94597/

 

[ohti]

socket is really weak for hpal because you get 2int/2haste or 2int/2vers, that's it.

so if something offered 5 speed (on PTR), i would think that is better than a socket.

No.

Hear me out, you can just be a player that's good enough to properly position and move without needing the extra speed, and sockets are very strong on a healer bc sp should be your main priority.

For the record, this guy hasn't set foot in a single BG and is not a reliable source of information.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/blackwing-lair/glancealotoo/pvp
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/blackwing-lair/glancealoto/pvp

Please stop talking like you have experience, it drives me up the wall.

 

[Warglave]

https://xpoff.com/threads/guide-which-gear-can-upgrade-socket-tertiary-stats-warforge.94597/

Yeah.... that was never accurate, it groups the apexis rares with normal rares... like I said, dont think normal WoD rares do anything but epic upgrade. That's literally hundreds of personal experiences over the last 3 expansions without disproof.

That ilvl 44 staff is NOT a normal WoD rare. Dungeons can proc tertiary and/or epic but both is usually super-rare, IME.

edit- when saying "normal WoD rares" I'm speaking of world rare drops and treasures, not including dungeon drops.

 

[glancealot]

Yeah.... that was never accurate, it groups the apexis rares with normal rares... like I said, dont think normal WoD rares do anything but epic upgrade. That's literally hundreds of personal experiences over the last 3 expansions without disproof.

That ilvl 44 staff is NOT a normal WoD rare. Dungeons can proc tertiary and/or epic but both is usually super-rare, IME.

yup, have blue with tert, have epic with tert, and have epic without tert. (auchinoun drops)