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[Dramatized]

Whoever told you they didn't faction changed lied to you.. Sorry to burst your bubble but if 2 of the worlds top F2P achievement people (lofi/visa) could only max out at under 850 it isn't possible. Also seasonal quests do not count towards it forever and there is again noway to get 3k quests or even 1k. Seasonal quests for the whole year resets after or before winters veil.

Also could you explain why this comes up? Looks like they were ally originally (or at some point) and did some quests (on a high and low level character) then faction changed to horde and didn't complete the quests

I've known Gemini from like 5 years back, we've been guildies. I know for a fact that character hasn't been faction changed. I challenge you to find one single piece of Alliance gear or any Alliance acheivement.

What you're missing in your calculation is that Lofi and all other f2p achieve hunters created their characters in Cataclysm, whereas Gemini has been around since Vanilla. He has done every Horde GF'd quest and every seasonal quest that gives you credit for this achievement during the years that've gone past. Unlike f2ps he has also not been restricted to only do quests in Azeroth, Outland and Northrend.

All seasonal quests doesn't reset, look at what [MENTION=16240]Goesid[/MENTION] wrote earlier.

As for the Alliance quests completed: I think that either it is some kind of bug, or that you were able to do some Defias-quests or similar before the Shattering took place - which could've given you Alliance quest credit. As you can see; there's two Loch Modan and two Westfall quest objectives for the Loremaster. Would it make any sense for the #1 achievement hunter to faction change Alliance and then only do the quest OBJECTIVES of Westfall and Loch Modan? Woudn't he had done any other achievements available to Alliance? He haven't even completed the Redrige Mountains quests, for instance.

I don't think he'd mind if you logged in-game and asked him himself.

 

[Temp1019]

There have been ~950 quests available to F2P toons. This number has increased as we have gained access to more elders, fires, and buckets. Because of their starting zones, Goblins, Worgen, and Pandas have access to more than the ~50 quests needed for 1k.

All repeatable holiday quests count towards your total. However, they all reset about a week before Lunar Festival begins, in the same way that the repeatable DMF quests reset about a week before DMF returns.

You may notice your tracked quest total drops by about 10 upon logout/zoning and regains its value after you complete a quest or daily. I believe this is because the client excludes quests you are no longer eligible for (breadcrumbs and quests that require a profession you no longer have) and includes them again when getting an updated value from the server (upon completing a quest).

Gemini clearly completed quests from before the Shattering which are included in the quest total and we obviously don't have access to those. He is irrelevant to the discussion.

 

[Buckeye]

Whoever told you they didn't faction changed lied to you.. Sorry to burst your bubble but if 2 of the worlds top F2P achievement people (lofi/visa) could only max out at under 850 it isn't possible. Also seasonal quests do not count towards it forever and there is again noway to get 3k quests or even 1k. Seasonal quests for the whole year resets after or before winters veil.

Also could you explain why this comes up? Looks like they were ally originally (or at some point) and did some quests (on a high and low level character) then faction changed to horde and didn't complete the quests

Then how am I sitting on nearly 800 and still have three zones worth of material plus holiday quests?

Edit: I haven't done Teldrassil, Dun Morogh, or Azuremyst. I haven't done Loch Modan, I haven't done Wetlands, I haven't done Ashenvale outside of seventeen or so, and I haven't done Bloodmyst.

You could be right. I was at 773 yesterday. Today I'm at 769, and I did three candy bucket quests...

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[Buckeye]

Accidentally quoted myself. >,<

 

[Thuniador]

Can anyone give suggestion about how a Arms Warrior to defeat a Hunter

 

[Trijea]

Can anyone give suggestion about how a Arms Warrior to defeat a Hunter

pray

 

[Thuniador]

Lol

 

[Crystalpall]

Can anyone give suggestion about how a Arms Warrior to defeat a Hunter

Get Doublecharge talent (I don't know how it's called). Grab berserker buff. Basically buff yourself with whatever you can.
Fight:
1. Charge into hunter and Mortal Strike. If he does not disengage, slam him and do as much damage as you can.
2. After he disengaged and ran away like a coward, he probably keeps on concussive shotting you
3. Wait for a millisecond just after he slowed you, use PvP trinked, pop any offensive cooldowns you have, run to him and charge
4. Mortal Strike -> Slam -> Execute.

It's hard to survive long enough. I suggest using prot stance after he disengaged for those seconds when hunter is far away. And maybe switching to shield.

 

[Baumbart]

Why do you think lofi, felix, lil, kale, visa etc. etc. never got 1k quests? It's not possible unless something has changed. World event quests do NOT stack as they are deleted once every year so 3k quests is in noway possible and the max (again unless something has changed) is around 900-950. Only way was grinding out over 1k quests on a dk

Tenshin does not have a DK.

 

[Trijea]

Get Doublecharge talent (I don't know how it's called). Grab berserker buff. Basically buff yourself with whatever you can.
Fight:
1. Charge into hunter and Mortal Strike. If he does not disengage, slam him and do as much damage as you can.
2. After he disengaged and ran away like a coward, he probably keeps on concussive shotting you
3. Wait for a millisecond just after he slowed you, use PvP trinked, pop any offensive cooldowns you have, run to him and charge
4. Mortal Strike -> Slam -> Execute.

It's hard to survive long enough. I suggest using prot stance after he disengaged for those seconds when hunter is far away. And maybe switching to shield.

this implies that the hunter has no scatter, pet cc or sac and skeys around in charge range after disengage

 

[Dramatized]

this implies that the hunter has no scatter, pet cc or sac and skeys around in charge range after disengage

20-24 bracket ~~~~~~

 

[oosstt]

this implies that the hunter has no scatter, pet cc or sac and skeys around in charge range after disengage

Uhh. BiS warrior can 2 shot a hunter...

Was trying to get Oldspike Damage Control (came like 30k short) the other day, and an ally 24 hunter came to fuck with us, because we were just healbotting eachother, attacking us in a room, and Oldspike had ~400 hp, and Oldspike got a 1.3k slam crit on him... And 3 shot him before he could disengage.

As long as you get an ability off on each charge, you should be beating hunters. Warrior > Hunter.

EDIT: Took 2 RDruids to heal through his damage. And we had to swap in and out of combat to drink, because he was OOMing us both.

 

[Stamm]

Can anyone give suggestion about how a Arms Warrior to defeat a Hunter

Be worgen?
Swifty pots?
LoS if possible?

To bait a hunter try and run away from it on a mount and it will DE towards you. You haven't used either of your double charges, it's already closer in range, and you should have been building rage by staying in def stance with a shield on to reduce dmg. TURN AND SMASH.

 

[Trijea]

Uhh. BiS warrior can 2 shot a hunter...

Was trying to get Oldspike Damage Control (came like 30k short) the other day, and an ally 24 hunter came to fuck with us, because we were just healbotting eachother, attacking us in a room, and Oldspike had ~400 hp, and Oldspike got a 1.3k slam crit on him... And 3 shot him before he could disengage.

As long as you get an ability off on each charge, you should be beating hunters. Warrior > Hunter.

EDIT: Took 2 RDruids to heal through his damage. And we had to swap in and out of combat to drink, because he was OOMing us both.

if u think a bis warrior can 2 shot a hunter ur kidding urself. the usual hunter has about 2k hp from what ive seen and id like to see how u do that amount of damage to me before i can press disengage, without critting

u thinking that warriors should beat hunters already shows how lost u r, rly no point argueing with u

 

[oosstt]

if u think a bis warrior can 2 shot a hunter ur kidding urself. the usual hunter has about 2k hp from what ive seen and id like to see how u do that amount of damage to me before i can press disengage, without critting

u thinking that warriors should beat hunters already shows how lost u r, rly no point argueing with u

You're right. No point at all. =)

I've seen it. I do it. I play with quality players is the thing. Not trying to insult you, just saying, Warrior DOES beat Hunter. lol

And, a BiS Warrior has over 20% crit. I think Oldspike has 25%. Which is very very high. And he REGULARLY hits over 800, usually in the 850 range. And each charge stuns you for 1.5 seconds. Which is .5s longer than a GCD. Just explaining myself so I'm not aimlessly arguing without explaining myself.

EDIT: Mount in, MS/Slam, You disengage, charge, MS/Slam, possibly both, depending on CDs, Charge again, MS/Slam, USUALLY both, because your speed boost is over by then. And if you use the roots, the Warrior trinkets.

Another EDIT: Oldspike also uses mail, and has over 2.1k HP in full damage gear.

 

[Kincaide]

Uhh. BiS warrior can 2 shot a hunter...

Was trying to get Oldspike Damage Control (came like 30k short) the other day, and an ally 24 hunter came to fuck with us, because we were just healbotting eachother, attacking us in a room, and Oldspike had ~400 hp, and Oldspike got a 1.3k slam crit on him... And 3 shot him before he could disengage.

As long as you get an ability off on each charge, you should be beating hunters. Warrior > Hunter.

EDIT: Took 2 RDruids to heal through his damage. And we had to swap in and out of combat to drink, because he was OOMing us both.

Maybe I'm not understanding what you're saying, but, considering your edit, shouldn't your conclusion read "Warrior > Hunter (as long as warrior has 2 pocket healers, both going OOM)"?

My main's a warrior as you can see, my primary alt is a hunter. I'll agree that it's possible to beat a hunter as a warrior, but to say that warrior > hunter while adding the conditional about healers seems a little suspect.

 

[Trijea]

You're right. No point at all. =)

I've seen it. I do it. I play with quality players is the thing. Not trying to insult you, just saying, Warrior DOES beat Hunter. lol

And, a BiS Warrior has over 20% crit. I think Oldspike has 25%. Which is very very high. And he REGULARLY hits over 800, usually in the 850 range. And each charge stuns you for 1.5 seconds. Which is .5s longer than a GCD. Just explaining myself so I'm not aimlessly arguing without explaining myself.

u bringing up crit percentages further proves that u got no clue what u r talking about. do u even know what sac does

id still like to know how u do 2k damage in 1.5 seconds with. no. crits.

 

[oosstt]

I'd like to know why you think he only has 1 charge. It's 3 seconds. And it's 25% crit, which means 1/4 attacks, which is usually more than 1/4 attacks, it was talked about in a thread on here not too long ago. It's all good guys. You have ego's to protect. I told you how to play Warrior, and it doesn't matter what either of you play tbh, because good Warriors beat Hunters, it's just how it is. Over and out.

And the healer part was just an example of how hard he hits. Since resto druids have the least problem with OOMing, and he does so much damage that it takes 2 drinking rdruids to tank his damage.

EDIT: In bear form, with standards being swapped every time they despawned.

 

[Trijea]

i understand that i am posting in the challenged bracket section but i didnt expect people to be that dense

roar of sacrifice makes u immune to critical strikes

charge range is 25 yards, hunter spell and auto shot range is 40 yards. u should be happy to get 1 off if ur lucky

also gcd is 1.5 seconds unless u got tons of haste, just for the record

all of this doesnt even include hunter pet cc

edit in response to ur edits: u assuming that u can just mount into melee range of a hunter further embarresses you and proves my point

 

[oosstt]

i understand that i am posting in the challenged bracket section but i didnt expect people to be that dense

roar of sacrifice makes u immune to critical strikes

charge range is 25 yards, hunter spell and auto shot range is 40 yards. u should be happy to get 1 off if ur lucky

also gcd is 1.5 seconds unless u got tons of haste, just for the record

all of this doesnt even include hunter pet cc

edit in response to ur edits: u assuming that u can just mount into melee range of a hunter further embarresses you and proves my point

Take it easy man. I was just here to offer advice to whoever asked. You instantly got mad. There's a reason for this. You either need a break, or somebody to talk to about something IRL. Stay 1550.