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Sabzep said:
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A quick calculation of bottom and top damage:
Arms
Mortal strike: 663 - 758
Slam: 786 - 907

Fury
Bloodthirst: 180 - 211
Wild Strike: 209 - 250

mind you these are the numbers without armor and pvp resilience. But it gives an idea how arms compares to fury. Fury weapons were 2 Razor's Edge. Equip is pretty good.
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That's so imbalanced that it's ridiculous.
Wth are the devs thinking?

Is it that bad at 90 too?
 
Buckeye said:
Is it that bad at 90 too?
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Fury supposedly does better at DPS charts for PvE than arms at end-game. I wonder if the devs calculated those numbers for fury with the assumption that all fury warriors will utilize Titan's Grip, among other possible things.
That said, yes, fury warrior's damage output at this level have been that bad since the start of MoP.

Buckeye said:
Wth are the devs thinking?
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You can ask what they've been doing for levels below end-game level for... who-knows-when (besides keep resilience constant at 40%, nevermind upping battle fatigue).

Even now, holyadin DPS from denounce spam is comparable to Mage, Warlock, and ele shaman DPS, and holyadin is a healer spec (may compare DPS to disc priest too?). Furthermore, protadins (a tank spec) deals significantly more than retadins, a DPS spec. One may find even more examples in this bracket.

And even recently, the new enchants like mongoose, elemental force, etc., while "scaled down", give the same stats whether one's level 1 or level 60, or anywhere in-between.
 
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Hmm. Equipping two 2h swords would definitely make a difference. Didn't think about that...

I had a free week last month. I took advantage by trying to farm the Raven Lord. My 85 holy paladin, ilvl 377, glyphed for damage, was taking down Talon King Ikiss in 12-14 seconds.

My 88 prot paladin, ilvl 415, was taking 22-25 seconds.

Obviously the Prot could just pull the whole instance and just burn them down, but when it comes to single target, holy is REALLY good. My Holy Shock crits were hitting for nearly 40k. Same with Denounce crits. I forget what WOG was hitting for, but it was a lot. I actually was forgetting to press that button a lot lol.

If I ever resub, I'll lock my xp, stay at 85 and get my ilvl as high above 400 as possible. I'll bet that my HS and Denounce will be hitting for over 50k. With the way gear scales, it might even hit harder at 80 than 85. I've seen vids of 80 mages burning down Lord Marrowgar 25H in like 30 seconds. 100k hits for days, and hits of a million+ when they blow their cooldowns. It took my 88 prot almost ten minutes to kill him on 10 easy mode lol.

I'll go wreck shit in ICC. I was already soloing Vortex Pinnacle at 85... And yeah, it's easier as holy than it is as prot. Just gotta remember to Repentance one of those adepts before you nuke the other. :)


The only advantage that prot had was standing in the bad to build Vengeance stacks as high as possible, and Blizz hotfixed that a long time ago.
 
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What makes a Prot paladin good?Skill wise.

All of the good pallies aren't noticeable because its a "Op" class and are shrouded behind that.

Fake casting is one of them but any-other?
 
Fujin0 said:
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Explain this please, what is your question?
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C:\Users\computer\WoW US\World of Warcraft\Interface > AddOns (folder)


C:\Users\computer\WoW US\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account > 2111290#2, 50537580#1, 140213832#1, SOLOWINGEAGLE
 
Legs said:
What makes a Prot paladin good?Skill wise.

All of the good pallies aren't noticeable because its a "Op" class and are shrouded behind that.

Fake casting is one of them but any-other?
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As goesid said.
AVGS the right spell. Know who and when to stun. Use speedstuff with wisdom. Holy Wrath can reveal stealthies - that's common knowledge, but not many know that you can use it to stun lock during metamorphosis. Count fast, beause if there are more than 5 guys around the AoE deals more damage than crusader strike - unless you press on 1 target. Taunt pets off healers. Open eyes and see others need healing. L2 use bandages when you run out of mana. Manage mana good enough not to have to use bandages. Carry melon juice with you. Have supplies always with you. 2 pvp sets and 1 max hit set. and more and more.
LoS. Fake Cast. Kite. Cleanse.
 
Crystalpall said:
As goesid said.
AVGS the right spell. Know who and when to stun. Use speedstuff with wisdom. Holy Wrath can reveal stealthies - that's common knowledge, but not many know that you can use it to stun lock during metamorphosis. Count fast, beause if there are more than 5 guys around the AoE deals more damage than crusader strike - unless you press on 1 target. Taunt pets off healers. Open eyes and see others need healing. L2 use bandages when you run out of mana. Manage mana good enough not to have to use bandages. Carry melon juice with you. Have supplies always with you. 2 pvp sets and 1 max hit set. and more and more.
LoS. Fake Cast. Kite. Cleanse.
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Stun lock during metamorphosis? Would you mind to explain?
 
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someone i know was banned as a joke (not funny) and i'm the current mod.
i want to fix the situation.
 
Crystalpall said:
know that you can use it to stun lock during metamorphosis.

Count fast, beause if there are more than 5 guys around the AoE deals more damage than crusader strike - unless you press on 1 target.
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HW doesn't stun Undead PCs, though, right?

Huh?, it does less dmg per target the more targets there are, right?

also, wtf, why can't I just mash buttons?! /s Lol, so many times I see AvgS hitting (first) non-casters when there is a caster right next to the silenced hunter/whatever.
 
Wih said:
HW doesn't stun Undead PCs, though, right?

Huh?, it does less dmg per target the more targets there are, right?

also, wtf, why can't I just mash buttons?! /s Lol, so many times I see AvgS hitting (first) non-casters when there is a caster right next to the silenced hunter/whatever.
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No, it stuns Undead (creature type) not forsaken (playable race).
HW indeed divides damage into all targets in range, but you can move around to attack just one person for high damage.
Paladin is easy to play, but not so easy to master, so take your hating somewhere else okay?
 
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