Lil
SV huntard
Why do you have to be a jerk to people just looking for help or for helping other people?
Oh wait it's just an excuse to make people on TI not like you I guess, right?
Pino's f2p Archaeology Guide
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Why do you have to be a jerk to people just looking for help or for helping other people?
Oh wait it's just an excuse to make people on TI not like you I guess, right?
Crystalpall
the F2P PvEr
DKs can get 350 archeology making outland and northrend archeology available, as well as some achievements.
Kincaide
Legend
Kind of, it works a little differently from that.
You can only dig at the places on the map that are currently active for you. There are never more than four active sites on any given continent at a time. And for each player, the zones in which your sites will "spawn" are only those zones that are level-appropriate for your character's level. You know how when you look at the map of a zone it says the zone name and its level range... if you're within that range, then that's a zone you could get digsites in. No others.
Troll artifacts only spawn in Arathi Highlands, Northern Stranglethorn, Cape of Stranglethorn, the Hinterlands, Eastern Plaguelands, Swamp of Sorrows, and Tanaris. All of those zones are level-rated beyond 20. Thus you will simply never get a dig site active in a location that contains troll artifacts.
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If you take time to read what I said, I am actually offering free help by making a guide to use google. Thanks for judging my guide mon chéri
solvogero
Legend
so it looks like we end up with 3 pets out of the deal?
pinochet
Legend
This is a good question. On my p2p I've gotten 16/20 and never once received a duplicate rare. This is statistically unlikely, but idk whether (a) they'll loop again once I obtain them all once, (b) whether I can solve them again if I delete them from my inventory, or (c) if a duplicate rare would even count separately. On the one hand, the achieve is worded to sound like duplicates would count, but the archy pane definitely tallies solves by type of artifact, and I wouldn't be surprised if the achieve was just a count of unique rares under the hood. I'm thinking of adding an unresolved questions section to this guide, and this is a very important one.
- You can't get a rare with 1-74 skill, only 75+. Other than that it seems to be very roughly 10% to get any rare, and then it's picked from the list of ones you haven't found yet. So actual rarity of any given rare would be fuzzy and dependent on how many from that race you've found so far. Judging by wowhead comments, there doesn't seem to be any rng protection forcing a rare after N unsuccessful solves.
- Per above, depends how many fossils you've found, but in the 1-2% ballpark once you've hit 75, increasing once you solve other rares.
- Kincaide answered this more clearly than I have. Archy seems to only spawn digsites in zones at or below your rough level. There aren't any troll digsites in 15-25 zones, so you'll never see one. When I get more time I'll look into clarifying this in the OP.
- Common artifacts are pure vendor trash, even the grey necklaces etc are not wearable. They have cool lore attached to them and they count for the Digger achieve line, but neither of those involves actually saving the physical artifact.
A lot of this info is different for f2ps than for p2ps, namely:
- The Troll digsite thing
- Usable/unusable items due to level requirements
- f2p DKs
- the subset of achieves that are obtainable
Some of these things would be counterintuitive or outright wrong just googling a general-purpose guide, so yes I think a f2p guide in the f2p forum is called for. Especially considering the number of people asking questions about it in chat today and yesterday.
And also I'm pretty much socially retarded and uninterested in popularity games, if you think I typed this whole thing out for a handful of TI likes, you clearly haven't met me.
Kincaide
Legend
Taking a look at Archaeology rewards - Wowpedia - Your wiki guide to the World of Warcraft, it appears that there are only somewhere between 9 and 11* rare artifacts that can be completed with a skill cap of 225. Going higher than 225 requires being over level 35.
*Ambiguous because two rares have ? for their skill level required to complete. Thus, unless someone can verify, it may still be up in the air as to whether we can actually get associate professor.
*Ambiguous because two rares have ? for their skill level required to complete. Thus, unless someone can verify, it may still be up in the air as to whether we can actually get associate professor.
Lil
SV huntard
[MENTION=8138]Kincaide[/MENTION] and [MENTION=8646]pinochet[/MENTION] thank you. I asked those questions before I even attempted them myself so now I know how dumb they were
Things that maybe needed to be added
those keystones do NOT drop until 75+
There is NO reason to stay at 75.. I stayed here for around 20 digsites until I realized I was getting no rares except for that amber thing
I also didn't read the part about the fossil and was EXTREMELY disappointed when I made it and saw requirement of 40.
I can verify the amber is possibly so the title has to be as well.
Not possible. DKs can only go to 375 so that means only 19 rares not 20
Things that maybe needed to be added
those keystones do NOT drop until 75+
There is NO reason to stay at 75.. I stayed here for around 20 digsites until I realized I was getting no rares except for that amber thing
I also didn't read the part about the fossil and was EXTREMELY disappointed when I made it and saw requirement of 40.
I can verify the amber is possibly so the title has to be as well.
Not possible. DKs can only go to 375 so that means only 19 rares not 20
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Not possible. DKs can only go to 375 so that means only 19 rares not 20
I believe you can loot multiples and still get credit towards the achievement.
pinochet
Legend
Interesting, wowhead lists everything fossil/nelf/dwarf as available at 75 skill, so I had no idea that individual ones might require higher skill. I haven't seen a single person get any of the BoA epics, nor Bones or Wisp, so I'm thinking that page must be correct. This is disappointing though, because it nixes two of the fun items as well as at least two achieves. Associate professor should still be doable, at least; I've gotten an Amber myself.
Updating the guide now, thank you for providing the link.
Crystalpall
the F2P PvEr
"You will not generally find a second copy of a common object until you have found all the common artifacts of that race, but exceptions abound. If you get stuck at a certain skill level of archaeology or character level, you may find an artifact more than once until you reach the next tier"
From the link up. That means I guess we (locked on 225) can loot the same artifact 2 times.
From the link up. That means I guess we (locked on 225) can loot the same artifact 2 times.
Baumbart
Legend
I saw on Armory that Felïx got Queen Azshara's Dressing Gown.
[edit] The gown is listed as requiring skill 225 on wowpedia so I dunno...
Lil
SV huntard
The following is ONLY possible with a DK. Is NOT possible without getting it on a DK
Artisian arch
Master arch
Diggerer
Blue Streak
The Harder they Fall
Kings Under Mountain
Tradegy in three cities is not possible for either
The professor is not possible for either
There is a total of 10 (11 if someone confirms the other last pet) rares possible for F2Ps and 18 for DKs (again 19 with pet confirmation and yes really only 1 away from the next title)
There is a total of 46 common items (97 with a DK and yes really only 3 away from next achievement)
Almost 99% sure commons don't repeat until you get all other commons however rares aren't guaranteed to drop before all the commons have sadly.
Goesid
Twink Info Legend
I got that too.
Baumbart
Legend
Where did you get these numbers? There are 66 common artifacts available to non-dk f2ps (if that list on wowpedia is correct). Blue Streak and Kings Under the Mountain also seem to be available to 20s.
[edit] Nvm, I saw the post about level appropriate digsites on page 3. Couldn't read page 3 yesterday cuz it was bugging out earlier for some reason. I guess it explains why my maxed-out DK couldn't see any digsites in Northend and only Hellfire Peninsula in Outland.
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Crystalpall
the F2P PvEr
Level it to 225. You will have the same digsites as on any other skill level.
pinochet
Legend
I'm counting 52 common items for Diggerer (27 dwarf, 10 fossil, 15 night elf) on the wowpedia page requiring lv1 archaeology, including all the ones for Kings under the Mountain... But Felix was linking me his incomplete Diggerer achieve last night, and he's done more than enough archaeology to have gotten all the commons by now. So I'm inclined to believe n=46 and Diggerer is not doable.
Do you have a better internet source for that count than wowpedia (warcraft wikis are notoriously bad...), or is that just your in-game count from having looped through all artifacts on all three races?
Kincaide
Legend
This is correct. The easiest way to think of it (and perhaps should be stated this way in the guide is:
WHERE you dig is determined by your character level. WHAT you can dig up and complete is determined by your Archaeology level.
Hence you definitely want to max your Arch.