EU Obtaining Thrall's Gift by faction change

[Rusks]

They remove it because it hadn't been addressed, I spoke to the guy in a skype video call who is on holinkas level in development and after discussing it with the rest of the devs they decided that it was intended as the arguments for it being intended outweighed the arguments against, and i got my bracers back after them being removed. Anyone who has had them removed before i spoke to the dev, just unlucky i guess.

the way you did yours and the way others did theirs is different, also different regions.

 

[l30t53dd6p]

the way you did yours and the way others did theirs is different, also different regions.

Yet still both ways involves talking to GM's and let them doing things that are not intended. There is no difference here.

Person one tricks the GM into giving them the bracers. Person two, class chagnes/faction changes to goblin, gets summoned to a place not intented to return to, getting stuck because the quests aren't available due to phasing and has to resolve this also through GM chat.

It is pretty much the same. Actually the last thing is even worse. Now due to Blackout they know about the loophole in their toc regarding this item and will probably prevent others from obtaining this item in a similar way.

Anyone who has had them removed before i spoke to the dev, just unlucky i guess.

The thing is they are not unlucky but you are lucky. The only thing you could think about is trying to find that loophole in making a good argument and they agreed with you which got your items restored. That doesn't make doing this legal. Blizzard had to acknowledge because there was no reason not to because they made mistakes and then you point them out those mistakes for your own selfish reasons without thinking that this might not be legal in anyway nor intented with as result that this loophole getting fixed and noone will ever get those bracers anymore and or GMs are aware of this problem and never help again.

This is exatcly the same sort of situation when criminals go free and winning court. Blackout makes it sound like robbing a banks cash dispencer because there are flaws in this machine legal.

 

[Rusks]

Yet still both ways involves talking to GM's and let them doing things that are not intended. There is no difference here.

Person one tricks the GM into giving them the bracers. Person two, class chagnes/faction changes to goblin, gets summoned to a place not intented to return to, getting stuck because the quests aren't available due to phasing and has to resolve this also through GM chat.

It is pretty much the same. Actually the last thing is even worse. Now due to Blackout they know about the loophole in their toc regarding this item and will probably prevent others from obtaining this item in a similar way.


The thing is they are not unlucky but you are lucky. The only thing you could think about is trying to find that loophole in making a good argument and they agreed with you which got your items restored. That doesn't make doing this legal. Blizzard had to acknowledge because there was no reason not to because they made mistakes and then you point them out those mistakes for your own selfish reasons without thinking that this might not be legal in anyway nor intented with as result that this loophole getting fixed and noone will ever get those bracers anymore and or GMs are aware of this problem and never help again.

This is exatcly the same sort of situation when criminals go free and winning court. Blackout makes it sound like robbing a banks cash dispencer because there are flaws in this machine legal.

wrong but you keep on believing that theres 3 ways but i wont go into detail because its not my info to share. the other way requires no gm contact whatsoever

also loopholes are legal you retard

 

[Blackout]

then you point them out those mistakes for your own selfish reasons without thinking that this might not be legal in anyway nor intented with

Selfish? It's black and white, pal. Things are either legitimate and not against the rules, or illegitimate and against the rules. I'm gonna have to be rude and say you just a fucking retard if you think that i'm selfish, really. fucking moron.

 

[l30t53dd6p]

wrong but you keep on believing that theres 3 ways but i wont go into detail because its not my info to share. the other way requires no gm contact whatsoever

also loopholes are legal you moron

Sorry forgetting to mention that it is legal when you start a new goblin. Oh my.

Selfish? It's black and white, pal. Things are either legitimate and not against the rules, or illegitimate and against the rules. I'm gonna have to be rude and say you just a ducking moron if you think that i'm selfish, really. ducking moron.

The game system made is not intended for doing what you did. It is a simple fact. You found a grey area and they had to favour your arguments when they clearly didn't see this as legal at first but just after further investigation of this grey area, your loophole with the toc. Also the way you react now.. how to explain all of that? it is not so hard to understand sir Blackout. I am happy for you that you got your items back, no mistake about that but the way you anounce that this is legal now disturbes me very much because we all know better.

Our daddy is a ducking moron since day 1, nothing new here

Nice to see that Cool is still my no1 fanboy! You still have that revengefull attitude of yours like all bad players who get annoyed by being killed by a superior player? You are such a joke.

 

[Tom Ganks]

Can't we all just love each-other?

 

[Rusks]

going there and doing the quests is so illegal guys OMG OMG

 

[l30t53dd6p]

going there and doing the quests is so illegal guys OMG OMG

Being sarcastic about it doesn't change the fact that it is. The like of Blackout even strenghts the idea that he knows he did wrong and yet still favouring his illegal selfish way of obtaining thralls due to this like or simply doesn't understand laws and rules. Real man accept when they are making mistakes and are not right too. Blackout clearly doesn't want to go to that point, just stuborn, but just yelling its legal cause they said so, even when he knows he was a bad boy in the first place

Have a nice day/night.

 

[Rusks]

Being sarcastic about it doesn't change the fact that it is. The like of Blackout even strenghts the idea that he knows he did wrong and yet still favouring his illegal selfish way of obtaining thralls due to this like or simply doesn't understand laws and rules. Real man accept when they are making mistakes and are not right too. Blackout clearly doesn't want to go to that point, just stuborn, but just yelling its legal cause they said so, even when he knows he was a bad boy in the first place

are you braindamaged? if they said its okay its okay. they havent done anything to fix it so currently its not against tos

 

[l30t53dd6p]

are you braindamaged? if they said its okay its okay. they havent done anything to fix it so currently its not against tos

You are very lost sir.

 

[Rusks]

You are very lost sir.

you seem to be the lost one here. blackout had his thralls removed and then he put in a ticket explaining that it wasnt against tos and after escalating it to the people who actually do shit in the game not answer tickets with copy/paste answers all day they agreed with him.

 

[l30t53dd6p]

you seem to be the lost one here. blackout had his thralls removed and then he put in a ticket explaining that it wasnt against tos and after escalating it to the people who actually do shit in the game not answer tickets with copy/paste answers all day they agreed with him.

And you can perfectly read why they had to in my posts. You are so lost.. and do not understand the point from a blizzard perspective nor laws. Reading problems and complete stupid is what you are.

But let me ask you this, what if I put on my satchel gear on my 19 druid or 24/29 hunter and 1 shot everything. It is legal right? and I gained it in a legal way not exploiting a flaw in the game mechanics right? So noone would report me because Blackout said it was alright after finding a grey area and higher degree GM's said it was not illegal due to this grey area?

Stop joking this subject. It is not a matter about the items but about the way. I know I exploted satchel gear and I know the risks that came with that but I am man enought to admit I did wrong and never ever would ask stuff like that back.

This is setting such a bad example overall and bad for its community.

 

[Rusks]

And you can perfectly read why they had to in my posts. You are so lost.. and do not understand the point from a blizzard perspective nor laws. Reading problems and complete stupid is what you are.

But let me ask you this, what if I put on my satchel gear on my 19 druid or 24/29 hunter and 1 shot everything. It is legal right? and I gained it in a legal way not exploiting a flaw in the game mechanics right? So noone would report me because Blackout said it was alright after finding a grey area and higher degree GM's said it was not illegal due to this grey area?

Stop joking this subject. It is not a matter about the items but about the way. I know I exploted satchel gear and I know the risks that came with that but I am man enought to admit I did wrong and never ever would ask stuff like that back. This is such a bad example overall and bad for its community.

yes you can equip all your satchel gear and go to town because obtaining satchel gear wasnt even a fucking exploit all you had to do is get invited to high level random dungeons and blackout proved that he also proved that obtaining thralls wasnt an exploit and the higher ups agreed with him

 

[l30t53dd6p]

yes you can equip all your satchel gear and go to town because obtaining satchel gear wasnt even a ducking exploit all you had to do is get invited to high level random dungeons

Not an intended gamemechanic.. and I abused it to get the satchel gear. Aka abusing gememechanics aka exploiting.

and blackout proved that he also proved that obtaining thralls wasnt an exploit and the higher ups agreed with him

The higher ups had to because there was no ground not to because Blackout found a loophole and used it as argument.

Keep up brother.

 

[Rusks]

Not an intended gamemechanic.. and I abused it to get the satchel gear. Aka abusing gememechanics aka exploiting.


The higher ups had to because there was no ground not to because Blackout found a loophole and used it as argument.

Keep up brother.

then why did blackout kept all his satchel gear lol if he "abused game mechanics" hed have been banned over it

 

[l30t53dd6p]

then why did blackout kept all his satchel gear lol if he "abused game mechanics" hed have been banned over it

You know, In real life, not all criminals are getting locked up and even before that the criminal has to be caught. And then there has to be evidence of someone breaking the law. If the criminal gets a good defense and wins court he will be set free. This doesn't change the fact that the criminal did something wrong.

 

[Blackout]

Holy shit this guy is still going on with himself, you know nothing, you have an opinion, keep it to yourself. When the guy who made the game says "yeah thats fine" that means, its FINE. This guy is just being an awkward bastard imo close this thread down cos this guy is a tosser and has ruined it.

 

[Nodoka]

Holy shit this guy is still going on with himself, you know nothing, you have an opinion, keep it to yourself. When the guy who made the game says "yeah thats fine" that means, its FINE. This guy is just being an awkward bastard imo close this thread down cos this guy is a tosser and has ruined it.

Suppose he has nothing better to do ^^

 

[Activate]

He's worried people will follow your example in more controversial situations. Scared he'll actually get banned for his blatant exploits with this new level of attention.

 

[Nodoka]

People these days nothing better to do