PTR Level 10s in Shadowlands
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ohti
Guest
Honestly I'm referring to levelers > f2ps. If the gear is as easy to obtain as buying it from a vendor them we're going to see more geared levelers which will make games more balanced. A lot of people complain about premades but a lot of the time we're at the mercy of our own levelers as well. There are plenty of games that I've played solo queue where I could have won or at least put up a very good fight, but I've got like 3 or 4 level 20 assassination rogues that are missing half their slots and when they do have gear they're whites which are effectively useless players taking up roster spots in my group.
I do believe that the gap between f2ps and vets will become a lot smaller in SL than it is now in BFA (potential access to enchants like elemental force as f2p? Hell yes.) But I think making levelers stronger will have a bigger impact on the bracket health than making f2ps stronger.
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No reason really not to unless you just want a trophy toon. It'll be the only way you'll be able to continue to play your shaman in SL.
Alternatively, if you want to keep it as a trophy of the times (very understandable, I'm not going to level any of my toons) it won't be hard to just re-gear a new 10.
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Chops
Soccer Dad
Stay on team Never Level Twinks
Purj will go to 9, right? That still makes sense as a level, unlike a bunch of other brackets that end up at like 17 or 27. And what happens if a couple patches down the line blizz decides to add a 5-9 bracket? Or all the old 19s decide to try out like... 9 wpvp?
I'd hate to see a shaman as GF'd as yours level up just because, especially when gearing a new 10 (as ghood pointed out) will take all of an hour.
Zedqt
Grandfathered
I see your point, but at the same time as you yourself said, levelers aren't the most well equipped to begin with. Those people who are missing slots will still be missing slots in shadowlands. Most people just leveling and playing casually aren't looking up internet guides to find out they can buy slottable epics from G'eras or walk into TBC dungeons (afaik there is no way to queue them right now, only BFA crap, which is just awful) to get good gear.
Our only hope is that 10-19 takes such a long time that they end up gearing themselves up before they even hit 15 or so.
ohti
Guest
I'm hoping (and it's looking like it's going to be this way) that levelers just come by relatively good gear naturally (most gear is just stronger period) Whereas atm, you sort of have to go out of your way to get good pieces on a 20 today.
At least with the new leveling island, levelers will be in full greens!
I doubt the brackets stay x0-x9, that's too big of a power difference between x0 and x9. That'd be like a level 20 today going up against what, 47s~? No way that stays.
My money is on 10-14.
Kirise
OG
Numbers incoming (based on my current f2p transferred to the PTR, and looking at the in-game PTR dungeon guide, all numbers subject to change) :
Slither-Scale Halberk: 4 stam, 3 int, 1 haste, 4 vers, 9 armor
Slither-Scale Gauntlets: 3 stam, 3 int, 5 armor
Slither-Scale Cord: 3 stam, 2 int, 3 vers, 1 crit, 5 armor
Slither-Scale Britches: 4 stam, 3 int, 4 haste, 1 vers, 8 armor
Slither-Scale Boots: 3 stam, 2 int, 3 haste, 1 crit, 5 armor
Total set bonus: 9 int, 1 haste
Vest of Living Lightning: 4 stam, 3 int, 3 vers, 9 armor, 3 sockets, +1 spell power socket bonus
Bloodstained Ravager Gauntlets: 3 stam, 2 int, 1 crit, 5 armor, 2 sockets, +1 int socket bonus
Girdle of the Gale Storm: 3 stam, 2 int, 3 vers, 5 armor, 2 sockets, +1 int socket bonus
Barbaric Legstraps: 4 stam, 3 int, 3 haste, 1 crit, 8 armor, 3 sockets, +1 int socket bonus
Dragon Slayer's Sabatons: 3 stam, 2 int, 3 haste, 1 crit, 5 armor, 2 sockets, +1 stam socket bonus
Total Slither-Scale stats: 17 stam, 21 int, 9 haste, 8 vers, 2 crit, 32 armor
Total SL/TBC gear stats: 18 stam, 15 int, 6 haste, 6 vers, 3 crit, 32 armor, 12 sockets, +1 spell power
...Looks like you're right. Socket gear is gonna rule no matter what.
Chops
Soccer Dad
Plate Hpals are back, baby!
Zedqt
Grandfathered
I don't think there is enough plate gear with sockets on it, so Hpals will probably also take mail/leather/cloth where they can.
Chops
Soccer Dad
There are plate...
shoulders w/ 2 sockets
chest w/ 3 sockets
belts w/ 2 sockets
gloves w/ 2 sockets
legs w/ 3 sockets
boots w/ 2 sockets
Which is 14 sockets, 2 more than Rise counted above. Plate Hpals are back, baby.
Counsel
Veteran
Scariest 5-man in the bracket.
Zedqt
Grandfathered
Tbh I don't even see where he got his numbers from. From G'eras alone (which probably won't make it to live mind you) there are 16 slots for just leather. I haven't even looked at cloth yet. And all of them gives a +1sp bonus for sockets, except pants which gives +1vers and boots which gives +1crit.
Added with TBC gear from dungeons there is probably more, and then we also have to take quests into account. I don't know which quests we will be able to do, but I think I remember some socket gear from quests in Hellfire and Zangarmarsh. I also remember seeing 2h weapons with 3 sockets (can hpal use 2h anymore? I can't remember) from dungeons.
tence
Legend
With mixing and matching between dungeon stuff and the shatt vendor I counted 16 plus the meta slot head thingy. Plate is gonna be silly. On the ptr with sub optimal gear I have like 220 int and like 35 crit chance from the gems alone.
On top of that if we can get drops from the anniversary event bosses, we will be able to get nearly everything gemmable. It's truly going to be world of gemcraft
Zedqt
Grandfathered
How do I start broken shore? I want to get my artifact weapon, but the dude the quest board told me to talk to isn't giving me a quest and there are literally thousands of zombies here. Can't find a quest giver or anything.
Purj
boomer shaman
I did this on Beta, instead of on PTR to avoid zombies. Not sure if something is broken on PTR.
Heike-Chan
Veteran
You need to go to one of those Warchief Command Boards (or the alliance equivalent, forgot the name), it'll give you an option to start the Broken Shore scenario and then you eventually move on to Legion Questing from that.
Zedqt
Grandfathered
All it does is give me a quest, on Alliance the quest can be turned in but it full stops there, and on horde I go to the dranosh'ar blockade and I get "Instance not Found: Transfer Aborted"
