PTR Level 10s in Shadowlands

So are legion artifacts new BiS for 10s (if we can get them) being ilvl 20?
 

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Finished the arcane mage artifact questline on my lvl 10 mage, cant continue the order hall though because the only way in is to teleport but you cant teleport as a lvl 10, funnily enough though you can portal.

Edit- 7 intellect gems from hellfire mark turn in vendor https://imgur.com/pUp4B86
 
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pretty cool wep i got
 

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Wow, those trinkets look juicy!
There is going to be so much to do. In reality, we are getting 7 X-Pacs in 1 day. Well maybe 6 as I don’t think we access Cata.
It’s going to be great for us, maybe too much in 1 go.
Can anyone confirm if we get more void storage, otherwise SL going to burst my bags.....

Its amazing that we get this much content.. and also its good to be here where this New era of twinking will start.... and get a full BIS before anything changes etc.... its very likely that after SDL, the low level players can also use SDL content to draw gear and items from.. and... probably every expansion that will come out from this point.... and just imagine having a GF,d item that will be unobtainable later due to epic/titanforge / socket/secondary stats being removed...

Lets jump on this ^^ and get full BiS.

Goodluck everybody
 
if everything on ptr makes it live twinking will be so easy and meaningless. make allied race, take portal to shattrah, buy socket gear, do artifact questline and thats a wrap.

everyone is same and a big fuck you to all ur shit sitting in our bags
 
There is a lot more broken stuff then artifacts lol. That weapon above is a good example. On a note of comparison for that weapon, my level 119(49) warforged gear got scaled to 71, one less ilvl then that weapon. The normal ilvl was 68.
 
Duplicate gear seems to be scaling down unevenly. Here's my 20 on live with a currently equipped BG shield with +4 vers and +2 haste secondary stats. I'm comparing it to another BG shield, exact same stats and item level, but with +2 vers and +4 haste. I transferred to the PTR and did the exact same comparison, and the haste-heavy shield got better stats than the vers-heavy shield.
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Duplicate gear seems to be scaling down unevenly. Here's my 20 on live with a currently equipped BG shield with +4 vers and +2 haste secondary stats. I'm comparing it to another BG shield, exact same stats and item level, but with +2 vers and +4 haste. I transferred to the PTR and did the exact same comparison, and the haste-heavy shield got better stats than the vers-heavy shield.
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on of the things I've noticed is its a real shit show how any of that pans out. But luckily... artifact weapons more or less negate the need to worry about it.

In fact, I'm not sure we need to give a shit about how any of our current gear looks. If everything goes live as it seems intended, artifact weapons and socket gear replace most of it. We *might* keep one of our rings and maybe bracers. Maybe.

But yea, Im fully confident we can all stop caring about what our current gear looks like.
 
In fact, I'm not sure we need to give a shit about how any of our current gear looks. If everything goes live as it seems intended, artifact weapons and socket gear replace most of it. We *might* keep one of our rings and maybe bracers. Maybe.

But yea, Im fully confident we can all stop caring about what our current gear looks like.

I think we may see some exceptions (which is why I checked out the shield). Socket gear with two or more sockets will take top honors, but single-socket gear may not overcome the raw stats of some pieces, and it's possible the slitherscale (and whatever the leather version is called) set bonuses will still outdo socketed gear. If the 5/5 and 6/5 vendor gems go live, and yeah, it's sockets forever, but I'll be surprised if that sticks.
 
I think we may see some exceptions (which is why I checked out the shield). Socket gear with two or more sockets will take top honors, but single-socket gear may not overcome the raw stats of some pieces, and it's possible the slitherscale (and whatever the leather version is called) set bonuses will still outdo socketed gear. If the 5/5 and 6/5 vendor gems go live, and yeah, it's sockets forever, but I'll be surprised if that sticks.
What I do think is significantly likely that I think everyone should be prepared for...

Some gems dont scale properly on live, and over the course of a couple patch cycles they get nerfed back into line, making socket gear less competitive. But in the instance of slither/fang set, I think that the set bonuses got nerfed to a point that socketed gear still overtakes it,, even if gems get nerfed to 1 stat
 
if everything on ptr makes it live twinking will be so easy and meaningless. make allied race, take portal to shattrah, buy socket gear, do artifact questline and thats a wrap.

everyone is same and a big fuck you to all ur shit sitting in our bags
Will be better for the health of the bracket, ease is a good thing.
 
Will be better for the health of the bracket, ease is a good thing.

That's arguable, because vets will still completely beat out f2ps as f2ps can't buy the gear off g'eras and also get so little marks of honor from bg crates (I swear it's like 1/1000 at this level which is stupid) that it will take them forever to socket tbc/wrath gear. Also all ease of access does is promote people to reroll FOTM whenever a new patch hits instead of sticking with what they play and making it work, becoming the best at it, etc.

And another thing, that I've pointed out in another thread, is that it promotes the unhealthy style of play where you just faction swap whenever someone asks for a premade. It's real mind numbing and painful as a solo player when the 2-3 twinks you saw on your team an hour ago (where there was actually good games that weren't just 1 sided stomps) just joined the 2-5 twinks on the opposite faction and are now running a bg crate farming train for the next few hours and you are basically unable to play if there are no other twinks queueing. I don't get how they find this fun tbh, if I win in a stomp I'm so bored which is why I never premade.

Levelers and most f2p people are not going to go out of their way to get BiS stuff, hell most f2p people don't even play the game long enough to do so, so all ease of access does is give ridiculous tools for the few twinks to completely shit up the bracket.
 
I think we may see some exceptions (which is why I checked out the shield). Socket gear with two or more sockets will take top honors, but single-socket gear may not overcome the raw stats of some pieces, and it's possible the slitherscale (and whatever the leather version is called) set bonuses will still outdo socketed gear. If the 5/5 and 6/5 vendor gems go live, and yeah, it's sockets forever, but I'll be surprised if that sticks.

How do you not know the name of the fang set lmao.
 

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