PTR Level 10s in Shadowlands

I doubt the brackets stay x0-x9, that's too big of a power difference between x0 and x9. That'd be like a level 20 today going up against what, 47s~? No way that stays.

My money is on 10-14.

TBC and Wrath had no compunction creating that kind of disparity in a bracket, I don't see why Blizzard wouldn't do that again, in the name of faster queues. True, that's taking current levels 20-47 and putting them in the same bracket, but remember that abilities had to get spread out from 1-60 to 1-120 over the years, including the elimination of spell ranks. Impactful, but not unplayable by any means.
 
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so we still dont reallllly know if we're going to 10, 14, or 19 eh? I guess it wont really matter if the xpon/xpoff is still separate.
 
Old weponds like twisted sabre. Is orginal L 21. Scarled one itemlevel 58 can be used in SL on L 10
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This seems entirely random. 66ilvl-72ilvl stuff seems to scale to 25, assault band at ilvl58 goes to required level 17, ring of the underworld goes to req level 13, tigerstrike mantle is req level 13, kaleidoscope chain req level 13, hammer of the northern wind is req level 21.

all the 58 stuff went to ilvl 29, but the required levels seemed random, unless someone can figure out a pattern for it? ilvl 66 stuff went to 31ilvl, required level 25, I'm assuming ilvl72 stuff would also be either 25 or maybe 27 and have around 33-34ilvl.
 
Sadly, probably wont know that till prepatch launch.
Speaking of Prepatch, I'm I correct that Blizz is bringing back the Scourge Invasion for the Launch of SL? That was my all time favorite Event in WoW's history (pre-WotLK launch Event).
 
This seems entirely random. 66ilvl-72ilvl stuff seems to scale to 25, assault band at ilvl58 goes to required level 17, ring of the underworld goes to req level 13, tigerstrike mantle is req level 13, kaleidoscope chain req level 13, hammer of the northern wind is req level 21.

all the 58 stuff went to ilvl 29, but the required levels seemed random, unless someone can figure out a pattern for it? ilvl 66 stuff went to 31ilvl, required level 25, I'm assuming ilvl72 stuff would also be either 25 or maybe 27 and have around 33-34ilvl.
[doublepost=1597391412,1597390826][/doublepost]Tested 90% low level rare/ tested 50% greens so world dropp can be itemlevel 29- Reg 0-10. Got 3 items none level Reg. Also straff of Jordan dont have anny level Reg. Instanse gear like shadowfang Reg 25. Itemlevel 66. Item Reg 0-22 can be scarled to 58..
 
I'm actually psyched. If they don't change much from PTR, I might go 20 (10s) again.
 
I'm actually psyched. If they don't change much from PTR, I might go 20 (10s) again.
We can use PTR to get an idea of what it'll look like but everything is way too over tuned right now, I wouldn't take any test results you see super seriously atm.
 
if it were to go live in its current state, 10s would be unplayable.

In what way do you mean? I mean yeah its buggy, but I mean access to content and extra dungeons / gear / gems / etc. That's what I don't want to change.
 
In what way do you mean? I mean yeah its buggy, but I mean access to content and extra dungeons / gear / gems / etc. That's what I don't want to change.
Oh shit yea, pve is gonna fucking rule and Im *so hyped*

But damage output to healthpool ratio is currently untenable with all the overturned gear.

He means everyone would get killed in 3-5 hits.
more like 1-2. I geared my hunter in vendor gear with Honor gems and have 70% crit, 200+ agi and my aimed shots crit for like 1200-1300. I cant imagine what, like... chaos bolt would do.
 
I'm actually really unsure of how much will change. If PTR has prepatch that means actual prepatch will be coming within 2 months more than likely. Even if they nerf the gems like crazy, even if they give a higher level requirement to socket gear (like they do with azerite pieces), even if they fix legion items giving 44ilvl, even if they nerf artifact weapons to not go higher than ilvl20 (considering you can get them to ilvl48 with relic slots), I still think we are going to be kinda busted.

I mean we still have engineering gear that beats out everything at our level, and the way they are scaling BoEs seems ludicrous. It's going to take a lot of work to fix all of that, so I can see a bunch of things just not changing whatsoever (remember we're on what, like 4 expacs now that crusader is still broken?). We'll either all be in ilvl29 boes or we'll be in socket gear with probably 2+ main stat gems (I can see them nerfing 5/5 to 1/1 and 3main stat to 2) or we'll be in the equivalent of level 110 dungeon blues with legion gear. I don't see blizzard putting in the effort to balance all of them.


Edit: I'm also confused why some specs get mastery and others don't. For instance, BrM has mastery, but WW and MW get them at 29.
 
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