Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss.

[The Saint]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

You claim something that can't be explained. Then yes you have to get that evidence. There is a reason why atheists are more intellectual then theists you know.

And evolution will present it's at the same time?

 

[madhombre]

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It must be a terrible feeling to know someone so dumb is able to consistently out think you.

it WOULD be a terrible feeling, indeed

 

[l30t53dd6p]

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And evolution will present it's at the same time?

To be honost I don't have a clue what you mean by this.

 

[The Saint]

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it WOULD be a terrible feeling, indeed

You better not look at the last few pages then.

To be honost I don't have a clue what you mean by this.

Burden of proof works both ways. people are aware they can't prove the existence of God, that's faith. Atheists like logic. If something can't be proven not to exist, then it's possible it exists.

#logic101

 

[l30t53dd6p]

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Burden of proof works both ways. people are aware they can't prove the existence of God, that's faith. Atheists like logic. If something can't be proven not to exist, then it's possible it exists.

#logic101

With normal cases yes but this is not a normal case I could give you abnormal examples like bigfoot, lochness monster or manbearpig!

 

[The Saint]

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With normal cases yes but this is not a normal case I could give you abnormal examples like bigfoot, lochness monster or manbearpig!

You mean logic only apply's from an atheist PoV.

 

[l30t53dd6p]

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You mean logic only apply's from an atheist PoV.

I believe that I am lost again. I don't see the connection you are making same with the other post on the previous page about evolution which you dodge up till now.

 

[The Saint]

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I believe that I am lost again.

I ain't gonna keep coming to find ya bro

I mean, logic can only be applied if it suits the atheist. In other cases in can be overlooked.

I have to go out (not to church). I'll catch up with you tomorrow <3

 

[l30t53dd6p]

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I mean, logic can only be applied if it suits the atheist. In other cases in can be overlooked.

I am more then an atheist which is the reason I don't agree with this statement nor with many things a hardcore atheist states.

My personal view is that I can't know because of the lack of evidence/proof but I am not denying that there could be more

 

[Snack]

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If you've been bad they/him/it make(s) you do Accomplished Angler without autolooting.

And if you've been good they/him/it make(s) you into this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U27KfeW5aYE

 

[Druiddroid]

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you cant be logical and reasonable and be religious, with exception of using orwellian double think. they're two conflicting things.
youre not an individual in a church setting. you are part of a hive, and stuck in a hierarchy. how rigid that is depends on your religion and your sect of said religion.
personal relationships with god is an oxymoron. and how does talking to an imaginary friend build strength or discipline? imagine being able to have will power and self control without having to submit to a "higher power". if people stop imagining they're are so weak, they most likely wouldnt be weak.
if you need a community to share appreciation, join a book club or something. you dont need to sit and listen to some virgin preach for an hour, and pay a tithe.
ill grant that just being atheist doesnt suddenly make you all logical and reasonable. but its a larger step in that direction then blindly following a book of fairy tales, allegories, and lies, all of which has been perpetrated by corrupt men for thousands of years in order to cling to power and wealth. so id call it a gate, or gateway of sorts. certainly moreso than the wall of religion, which commands you to suspend logic and reason and replace it with faith..

Religion (or lackthereof) is literally the least important factor in being a reasonable human being. Aside from ridiculous places in the American deep south, islamic extremest places, etc. Religion is fine. Someone's theism is a subjective thing to respect, when they don't impose it on others.

 

[Elkiva]

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Falkor - You're fighting a lost cause.

On another side note, I'm going to link more " Bullshit" because apparently I'm not allowed to express my own personal opinion / theory / other theories and anything else to do with me posting within my entire post.

www.truthaboutdeath.com/
Guardian Article
Scientific America Article
Weird things that happen after you die Article
Live Science Article
Illusion for death Article

Sorry, I couldn't be bothered to find more bullshit posts / articles and things of that nature.

 

[madhombre]

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dat moment when a bunch of religious hillbillys group up to bash "atheists", priceless
YOU are the result of million years of evolution, act like that

its "ok" to believe in religion (even though i cant find a decent reason for it) but please accept the facts science brought to you. to doubt people like einstein or hawkins is so stupid, even your neighborhood priest would laugh about you

 

[billymáys]

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Apologies in advance but Leotseddap has the best GIF signature. Goal of the tournament! (James Rodriguez is average). Not going to be biased but Leotseddap makes a strong argument. David luiz should not captain brazil.

 

[l30t53dd6p]

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Apologies in advance but Leotseddap has the best GIF signature. Goal of the tournament! (James Rodriguez is average). Not going to be biased but Leotseddap makes a strong argument. David luiz should not captain brazil.

Your sig is awesome too. I was watching it earlier and my memory of an exploding coke bottle I once saw when I worked in a supermarket emerged. It can really happen

 

[Falkor]

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No. What you believe in, is there's no God. There is no back up for that at all.

no back up for no god? lolwut. theres no backup FOR god, other than what a group of power hungry asshats assembled into a "holy" book at conferences like at nicaea. you have zero proof for a god

You believe people who believe in aliens and time travel (Einstein).

if you dont believe in aliens, i feel bad for you. your pea brain obviously cant comprehend the size of the universe. there is no chance there is no alien life. even your god would be considered an alien, so boom roasted. alien =/= little green men from the movies.

There's a "crusty old jew" for ya Falkor.

einstein wasnt crusty, and did a lot of work before he was old. he also is in no way shape or form like moses, the hapless old nut walking through a desert.

You know something that no one else does? Again what have scientists been doing all this time when you could of solved an age old mystery in one sentence.

sciences goal isnt to prove there is no god. however their work does prove there is no god since it proves what all the old powers said god did and how the bible describes things and events is wrong. its only an old mystery because stupid people continue to believe it

Then why don't they? It's like me saying God could come have a chat with you but he don't wonna.

no, they do do that. its just idiots like you look at the fossil records and choose not to believe them. every time they find a so called missing link, you idiots ask for a new one. the thing is they have the models and hypothesis for what the "missing" parts are, they just have to dig and find them. you sit back and say HA, NO! the earth IS 6000 years old!!!trolololo. as if one "missing link" would throw out all the other ground work, hah. go back to school kid.

People like you are the problem. Not once in this discussion have I pushed my views at anyone, but unless i believe in your OPINION I'm a nutter?

wut. this whole discujssion has been pushing your views. you believe in god, but arent christian. you dont believe in evolution. you dont believe in fossil records. etc etc etc. and yes, if you believe what you've been pushing you are in fact a nutter.

And if you go back to the start, I'm not pushing Christianity either. I said i believe there is a god, not "one true religion".

idc if youre pushing christianity or islam. your belief in any god is laughable. especially when its in conjunction with denying science. the fact you need to cling to agnosticism is funny.

But for every biblical statement you punch an hole, i can do the same with a scientific one

no you cant though. and asking for an infinite chain of missing links isnt punching any holes. but please keep trying

So I wouldn't be sharing atheist views then?

Maybe i should believe a dog is my master... Wait, someone beat me to that too.

you wouldnt be sharing views in the sense religious sects do. not in the sense of joining a church of aethism, with a set code and hierarchy and beliefs. youd just be not believing in a god. for all you know a dog is your master, could be the "god" you believe in.

Religion (or lackthereof) is literally the least important factor in being a reasonable human being. Aside from ridiculous places in the American deep south, islamic extremest places, etc. Religion is fine. Someone's theism is a subjective thing to respect, when they don't impose it on others.

nah, you associate "crazy" religious people with the 'deep' south. but the truth is theyre all over the us. and even "not crazy" religious people have their stupid sky monster influence things like politics and use it to justify bs like no gay marriage, etc. someones theism is nothing to respect, even when they dont impose it on others.

Falkor - You're fighting a lost cause.

On another side note, I'm going to link more " Bullshit" because apparently I'm not allowed to express my own personal opinion / theory / other theories and anything else to do with me posting within my entire post.

www.truthaboutdeath.com/
Guardian Article
Scientific America Article
Weird things that happen after you die Article
Live Science Article
Illusion for death Article

Sorry, I couldn't be bothered to find more bullshit posts / articles and things of that nature.

how am i fighting a lost cause? atheism is becoming more and more popular as people wake up and realize how stupid theism is, and not just organized religion.

on another note, you explicitely said you didnt believe in them! if you truely believe that bullshit, go ahead and link it..and attempt to defend it...but you were linking just for the sake of linking. which is pointless. its just you trying to be edgy and stir the pot with "theories" that you dont even believe in hah.

 

[l30t53dd6p]

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the fact you need to cling to agnosticism is funny.

His views are not really agnostic but gnostic I believe. He claims to know god exists and believes he exists. He's a gnostic theist

If he was agnostic he would say I don't know if god exists.

Maby I am wrong about that, I thought I read it somewhere between the lines. Could just ask himself. Which one are you agnostic or gnostic [MENTION=5987]The Saint[/MENTION]?

 

[Druiddroid]

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nah, you associate "crazy" religious people with the 'deep' south. but the truth is theyre all over the us. and even "not crazy" religious people have their stupid sky monster influence things like politics and use it to justify bs like no gay marriage, etc. someones theism is nothing to respect, even when they dont impose it on others.

It's respectable if they don't impose it on others, it's not if they impose it on gay marriage, etc. They would be the same old republican conservative fox news bullshitters without religion too, that's how humans are. Most of the old ones stick to their guns that they knew 30 years ago

 

[Falkor]

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It's respectable if they don't impose it on others, it's not if they impose it on gay marriage, etc. They would be the same old republican conservative fox news bullshitters without religion too, that's how humans are. Most of the old ones stick to their guns that they knew 30 years ago

i would argue they are "republican conservative fox news bullshitters' exist in large part because their faith. if you polled the party or those viewers they would be pretty staunch theists, regardless of faction. in fact their belief in the republican party is in large part faith since they refuse to open their eyes and see big money rule the party and not follow any of their real values, but trust it to work and do whats best. but thats for a different thread. i would argue take away their faith and they would be a lot more liberal, and swallow a lot less faux news BS

 

[Norixis]

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GY camping