Allybeboba
Legend
Many tweaks to follow
Legit WoD Alpha patch notes are up
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Chykcha
Legend
If new weapon damage benefit from AP (agility) goes live hunters will be even more horrible:
>Each point of Agility or Strength now grants 1 Attack Power (down from 2). All other sources of Attack Power now grant half as much as before.
>Weapon Damage values on all weapons have been reduced by 20%.
>Attack Power now increases Weapon Damage at a rate of 1 DPS per 3.5 Attack Power (up from 1 DPS per 14 Attack Power).
So now I've got (outside BG) 132 agility > 284 RAP (aspect turned off) and 21 DPS from weapon and 21 DPS from RAP.
With new changes it's 21 DPS*80%=17 DPS from weapon and 132 ag > 132 RAP/3.5=37.7 DPS from RAP.
So before changes it was 42 DPS, after it's 55 DPS. With aspect turned on it will be 68 DPS.
Take into account that:
>Aimed Shot now deals 20% more damage and no longer interrupts Auto Attacks.
And Aimed shot is heavily based on DPS (weapon damage which benefits from RAP actually). So instead of running and jumping we will be probably 1-shoting clothies with Careful Aim - Spell - World of Warcraft
Too long till WOD actual notes hit anyway.
ench
Legend
People keep bringing up enh shamans and increased damage. Can somebody point me to that part in the notes? Because all I see is a searing totem buff (read: useless) and the removal of water shield (read: my primary shield). While I definitely think a damage buff is in order I don't see it in the notes.
ench
Legend
Found this. Flametongue Weapon damage has been increased by 40%, and Lava Lash damage has been increased to 280% weapon damage (up from 140%) to compensate. That'll help
Activate
Legend
Don't forget that heals are being buffed, health pools are being buffed and aspect is being removed.
Goesid
Twink Info Legend
With all expansions there is level swapping of the level req of abilities, should this move stormstrike down a few levels along with the increase of it's damage when lightning shield is active you will see a pretty heavy increase to enhancement damage, however it is also a high chance of that not being the case and in which case things won't really change.
Whhat they could be talking about could also be that while it doesn't get buffed, others get nerfed making enhancement seem more powerful even if it doesn't get buffed because the others get dragged down to their level.
Chykcha
Legend
From my POV heals are being nerfed since no more instahealing and pushback from hunter+pet is huge, those who rolled BE will be able to even interrupt once. Health pool is not being buffed, at least once again from my POV time to bring someone down will be more or less the same, they're changing numbers only. Aspect is being removed but will be included as a passive to other abilities (plain damage increase or passive like +30% RAP), so aspect is not being removed but geting reworked.Don't forget that heals are being buffed, health pools are being buffed and aspect is being removed.
Activate
Legend
but no more battle fatigue
Bop
Remember the Treeline
The effect from stamina relative to how it is now is being increased by 200%.
ench
Legend
Right but the baseline resilience is also being removed (that's the stated goal although they said some may have to remain) so it's about a wash as far as effective health goes. I actually think the crit damage reduction to 150℅ will be more of a net gain for survivability than the stam/resil changes. We'll have to see how it pans out.
Chykcha
Legend
And no more, or close to 0 resilence. If 40% res wast here I would put 2k aimed and 1shotiing clothies and 1shotting+few pet attacks leather classes.
And level based base health is gone.
Why do you guys only see/read notes which appeal to you?
Activate
Legend
Because they appeal to me?? But seriously, I didn't think much about what losing resilience and increasing stamina will do. Then there's the weapon damage and different relationships between primary stats/weapons and output. We mere mortals must simply beg for crumbs from the mighty god Blizzard. Thrall save us!
Allybeboba
Legend
For our bracket, all we will see is a health increase, damage/heal increase, crits only hit for 150%. That is IF we do not see our item levels change due to the stat squish. All of this is speculation. As stated above, it will probably be a wash for us. We will damage and heal for the same percent of someone's average healthpool.
Sweetsidney
Sweetsidney
Bop
Remember the Treeline
We don't. It's just that many people are able to guesstimate in their heads that the bracket will end up slightly bulkier and more heal oriented.
Everything at this point is a guess. Very little, if anything, is confirmed.
Vandiir
Legend
Among many things, while the patch notes are still alpha, they still confirm what blizz specifically plans to do with hit/expertise:
Presuming "creatures" also means players, that would mean problems for F2P WPvP in 25-29+ zones (and similarly for any other twinks).
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As for the statements that health will be doubled, and resilience/battle fatigue will be removed (assuming no other changes [which may/will happen], like to base stamina, base healing/damage from abilities, (mana regen?), etc.), numerically that means:
*Effective health (compared to now) will be boosted by a factor of (2/1.4) (changing from h*1.4 to h*2), or increase by approximately 42.857%.
*Removing 60% battle fatigue now is the same as changing healing done from H*(.4) to H, or increasing healing done (compared to now) by 150% (or multiplying your current healing done by 2.5).
We still have to wait and see if they follow up on actually converting hit/expertise to different secondary stats (unlike "removing" resistances).
Presuming "creatures" also means players, that would mean problems for F2P WPvP in 25-29+ zones (and similarly for any other twinks).
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As for the statements that health will be doubled, and resilience/battle fatigue will be removed (assuming no other changes [which may/will happen], like to base stamina, base healing/damage from abilities, (mana regen?), etc.), numerically that means:
*Effective health (compared to now) will be boosted by a factor of (2/1.4) (changing from h*1.4 to h*2), or increase by approximately 42.857%.
*Removing 60% battle fatigue now is the same as changing healing done from H*(.4) to H, or increasing healing done (compared to now) by 150% (or multiplying your current healing done by 2.5).
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Bop
Remember the Treeline
From experience, I've learned never to trust Blizzard's patch notes until they're actually implemented.
Especially with something like Alpha Notes... By releasing those notes, they're essentially just tossing an outline out for people to dissect. Very, very non-committal.
It is extremely likely that the things they've been talking about for months will come to pass, though. Like Experise/Hit changes, skirmishes, removal of resil/BFat.
Even then, don't get hopes up reading something into "Alpha" notes. Lawl.
Especially with something like Alpha Notes... By releasing those notes, they're essentially just tossing an outline out for people to dissect. Very, very non-committal.
It is extremely likely that the things they've been talking about for months will come to pass, though. Like Experise/Hit changes, skirmishes, removal of resil/BFat.
Even then, don't get hopes up reading something into "Alpha" notes. Lawl.
Tyramissoux
Legend
Allybeboba
Legend
I would not be too shocked to see cross faction battle grounds in the future. That would certainly lower the queue times in the lower brackets. The technology already exists for them to do it. That would be really nice if they did this.
Sweetsidney
Sweetsidney