Discussion in '19s (Vanilla)' started by Jamesb, Mar 14, 2019.
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Seems like a reasonable request though. Perhaps even a good idea! : ) Having a website where you click what bracket you want to twink, it tells you a bit about the meta and then you click what class you want to explore further, it shows you itemization, options for different slots, gives an overview of capabilities and so forth. Also links to consumables and how to obtain them. Could be a great resource, but a bunch of work. And clearly even the simplest version of just 19 twink BiS lists you click class icon and it shows you the build info in a spiffy way, would be fun and nice to have.
But the forum does offer the BiS lists right here, so admittedly if it doesn't start pulling in more data into 1 place it's actual additional contribution is limited.
Seeing as there is a loot trade window in Vanilla to reduce work load on GM's are there any enchants that can be Trade Glitched across such as now on live servers (I.e Leg enchants on boss drops of shoulder enchants on BoE's etc..)
Does anyone have any ideas?
Zg head/shoulder/leg enchants? Thats about it
KidneyPopper? You coming back for this? Let's go
Can only trade loot in raids, not dungeons.
This thread is fantastic and I'd love to take the opportunity between now up until the classic launch to test out some of these builds and see how each class feels in vanilla. Would anyone have access or be able to set up an instant lvl 19 private server with vendors for all of the gear mentioned by the OP? This would be very helpful for building BiS wish lists, run sims, theorycraft builds like fire shamans/spirit warriors, etc.
Really good post. Only thing I'd mention is Crusader is Viable on Rogue it heals for 100 & gives in an insane amount of melee damage - strength is not a Paladin/Warrior only thing in Vanilla. Lifestealing procs a lot and does 30 damage + 30 heal, Feiry is very high RPPM and does 40 if I remember correctly. +15 AGI is always good as well for static attack power/dodge/armor/crit. Also worth noting Icey enchant is extremely viable for Rogues as they have no slows and are VERY easily kited without sprint evasion up at that time. Cheers.
shamans also benefitted from str in vanilla and tbc
lol this guide is so bad
In what way?? Just saying something is bad is not constructive. The guide may not be perfect, but most of it seems spot on.
That said I'm always interested in learning new tricks : ) What items would you use that aren't listed? What would you do differently? What core ideas does this guide need?
Inferno Robe is BiS for Shaman DPS. Flametongue, Searing Totem, Flame Shock and Fire Nova is their main source of damage. So fire spell damage is BiS for DPS shaman.
A 19 can't get inferno robe in classic, level Req for last part in Chain was changed in TBC. Vanilla P Servers where some twinks got inferno robe it's cause shitty DB or Last Patch / End of Vanilla on that server.
You'll have to forgive MVQ, he started playing in WoTLK.
Lol, all good lotta people have that misconception. But yeah this guide is accurate and even tells you what you can obtain and what level so really good for those newbies that need to be told 'step by step/'. Only this this doesn't tell you is use of different option of gear / enchants depending on the situation or different gear sets. ie https://vanillawowdb.com/?item=7284 Red Whelp Gloves for Shamans, or carrying a pair of +7 Stam Boots along with Minor Speed Boots.
I think that's going to be one of the biggest shockers to some people, is not realizing what was and wasn't available for gear.
That, and mana/rage management.
Yeah knowing when/to use different rankings of spells etc
Classic is going to be the last patch of Vanilla. So thanks for proving my point I guess?
Not sure if trolling or not. Classic = Vanilla. lul. Blizzard isn't sure if they are going be 1.13 content expanding ''vanilla'' or TBC. So no Inferno Robe.
Blizzard are not modifying the level req. of quests, nor the stats of items like they were back in Vanilla. They are not doing item progression, they're doing item additions.
Meaning, that if Inferno Robe was available at lvl 19 on patch 1.12.1 (which it was) then it will be available on Classic during Phase 1.
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