Puempeekstoh
Legend
Taking a glance at your profile picture, I'm going to say its just you tho.
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Is XPOff being deliberately killed?
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Tom Ganks
Guest
Yeah, I get ya. But in the right context, it can be explained well. Just depends. Plus instead of saying "Visit Xpoff . com!" you can leave out the .com and just say something like "largest twink/xpoff community ever!"
Biggest worry would be getting a small warning if reported for advertising. But I've had some people ask me about it in Bgs.
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Zemmix
A.B.C.
Honestly, I think just mentioning something like the following while in a BG / trade or what have you would be nice...
Not word for word, but you get the idea.
Interested in a growing community forum mainly for twinking? Lot's of guides, advice, and a great way to make groups and organize events. Send me a message.All welcome!
Not word for word, but you get the idea.
Puempeekstoh
Legend
That was @Razqt and his idol Icejjfish
Raz
yo what's good
but be real here would u actually go to a website some random person told you about in a random bg?
Shaket
Legend
passed. has a week passed. last week is in the past, it has passed by.
Shaket
Legend
abundantly. how is your browser's spell check not catching this.
Bestworld
MBA
The only moment where I ever advertise twinking in general is
1) When people have played it before and ask me if it's still a thing.
2) People are new and asks out of general interests towards my gear etc. and because they see me in BG's all the time as well, and so they start asking questions.
3) When I'm promoting twinks through streams or similar content (i.e. dropping a link to xpoff etc.)
But no, I don't believe that people would give 2 shits about someone spamming xpoff in a macro while in a BG. People seek out their own knowledge if they follow an interest. Linking the site randomly is probably not gonna give the community much.
As to the whole new administration thing, I'll see where it goes. It's an adjustment process for both parties. Users AND admins/moderators. We shouldn't dunk people on the heads for giving feedback, however cryptic some feedback may be. Feedback is gonna be valuable towards the new people running the site. Good or bad.
So everyone looking at this as like some internal civil war between "toxic users" and and "non-toxic users" need to change their point of view. Think of it as people just voicing opinions for now. As mentioned, it's still and adjustment process.
The whole discussion about site toxicity in general is pretty healthy atm. because it will help draw a line between the current policy and outright toxicity, which seems to be a thin line atm. Generally it'll even out, and general competitive talks, friendly banter and inside jokes / trolling and whatnot will (I hope) come back.
As mentioned, it's an adjustment process from both parties. Take the thread Mvq made about Selya. Arkte stepped in and said he'd handle the situation, admitting that the action taken was in the wrong. So if these threads and the voicing of different members, allegedly labeled toxic or non-toxic members, admins and moderators, doesn't scream "adjustment process", then I don't know what does.
1) When people have played it before and ask me if it's still a thing.
2) People are new and asks out of general interests towards my gear etc. and because they see me in BG's all the time as well, and so they start asking questions.
3) When I'm promoting twinks through streams or similar content (i.e. dropping a link to xpoff etc.)
But no, I don't believe that people would give 2 shits about someone spamming xpoff in a macro while in a BG. People seek out their own knowledge if they follow an interest. Linking the site randomly is probably not gonna give the community much.
As to the whole new administration thing, I'll see where it goes. It's an adjustment process for both parties. Users AND admins/moderators. We shouldn't dunk people on the heads for giving feedback, however cryptic some feedback may be. Feedback is gonna be valuable towards the new people running the site. Good or bad.
So everyone looking at this as like some internal civil war between "toxic users" and and "non-toxic users" need to change their point of view. Think of it as people just voicing opinions for now. As mentioned, it's still and adjustment process.
The whole discussion about site toxicity in general is pretty healthy atm. because it will help draw a line between the current policy and outright toxicity, which seems to be a thin line atm. Generally it'll even out, and general competitive talks, friendly banter and inside jokes / trolling and whatnot will (I hope) come back.
As mentioned, it's an adjustment process from both parties. Take the thread Mvq made about Selya. Arkte stepped in and said he'd handle the situation, admitting that the action taken was in the wrong. So if these threads and the voicing of different members, allegedly labeled toxic or non-toxic members, admins and moderators, doesn't scream "adjustment process", then I don't know what does.
Phrontistery
i was making waves u was surfing in 'em
was xpoff not dead from the start?
ifurreadingthisitstoolate
Banned
No it just needs improvement
Jk it's trash like most of the noobs who want a soft warm cozy safe space instead of a breeding ground for beasts
Jk it's trash like most of the noobs who want a soft warm cozy safe space instead of a breeding ground for beasts
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Mvq
2016 TC Champion
Well I've experienced the incompetence of the Admins first hand.
Got 2 week ban for saying kys to moderator, then Arkte deemed that an unfair ban but didn't unban me, after the 2 weeks I create thread complaining about the Staff and then Arkte responds saying that I was in fact unbanned and there was no problem, right after I just sat through the full fukn ban. And then he locks the thread. Like hello? Lies and locks thread so no one can expose him.
Oh and I wrote kys to an admin right after my ban was expired and I'm still not banned for that and in fact 15+ people have done the same and are still not banned.
That's the inconsistencies.
Got 2 week ban for saying kys to moderator, then Arkte deemed that an unfair ban but didn't unban me, after the 2 weeks I create thread complaining about the Staff and then Arkte responds saying that I was in fact unbanned and there was no problem, right after I just sat through the full fukn ban. And then he locks the thread. Like hello? Lies and locks thread so no one can expose him.
Oh and I wrote kys to an admin right after my ban was expired and I'm still not banned for that and in fact 15+ people have done the same and are still not banned.
That's the inconsistencies.
Dramatized
Legend
would be nice if mods/admins were to focus on banning actual trolls tbh. allybebobobaobaobaboabaababaoboabo has been trolling for the past years; he's going off-topic and actually destorys ok threads by baiting forum users into attacking his person rather than discussing the subject of the thread. another recent example is voc who literally shitposted for MONTHS before he got banned starting maybe 10 threads w/o content or value, he didnt even start any drama because no one took him serious enough. both these users spam (and spammed) threads all day long with useless shit causing a major negative impact for a great deal of xpoffs community w/o any kind of action taken against alyboaboaboaoeaobboabas and voc being banned after weeks/months.
meanwhile users who show an elitist attitude or jokingly behave toxic have their asses dealt w immediately
also a much bigger concern is that xpoff/twinkinfo in recent years have failed to implement a consistent mod policy making it incredibly hard for users to know where the line goes
meanwhile users who show an elitist attitude or jokingly behave toxic have their asses dealt w immediately
also a much bigger concern is that xpoff/twinkinfo in recent years have failed to implement a consistent mod policy making it incredibly hard for users to know where the line goes
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Mvq
2016 TC Champion
Well said.
Shinela
Not your everyday tank
All right you guys, so you seem to dislike the moderators. Now I don't want to be rude, but allow me to explain one or two things.
First of all, and a very common argument: You guys make a twinking site that's this successful, go on, good luck mate
Now the proper argument, and this is from personal experience as a guild master:
It is impossible to control an entire group. It is more impossible to be consistent amongst a larger group of officers or moderators. Sure, the moderators are moderators, but take it from a guild's perspective here. All those officers are people just like yourself who have gone out of their way to take the effort to do it. On a site like this, you have to read a lot of posts and judge people for their general behaviour. Taking example of a recent post: telling people to "kys", especially if there's no incentive to having a clear, obvious laugh, would get you banned elsewhere with a lot less care of "Let me listen to your story." Nah, you broke a general rule of how to act towards people. Get over it.
Now I'm not saying the officers are right or wrong, but they can't all think the exact same way. They're all individual people with their own ideas of "This is too far" and "This isn't". On moderator isn't better than the other, either. If one mod decided you should get banned for it, maybe it should be a general discussion but I feel that that mod has his knowledge. And yeah, mistakes are made very often, don't get me wrong, but there's no need to start a thread about it. Take things civil, talk like a person don't act like a herd of sheep trying to start a mutiny, this isn't Pirates of the Caribbean.
So one last thing I want to cover here, because I know I'll get bombarded with "But this and that". I haven't really noticed any faulty behaviour with the mods, but that's only my experience and you could have genuinely had experience of bad moderating, and I would agree to some, disagree to others, but I want to give you my idea. So far I've had no issue with any mods whatsoever. I feel like I'm okay with the mods, and the mods are okay with me. Why? Idk, I'm not toxic I guess.
So yeah, this is a valid point. That could be improved upon, but then again. In the past, I've learned that having rules written out, people will ALWAYS search those nooks and sides going "Oh but the rules don't state that specifically". They need constant readjustment for those kind of people and it's generally just a true horror.
This question is directly towards the mods, but.. Do you guys have a specific forum area for mods alone that regulars can't see? Maybe write everything down there like I used to on my old guild site. You can discuss like "This person did this and that, help me look into it and judge with me" so no rash choices are made. (Of course, heavily toxic behaviour has to be acted quickly upon, but provide all proof needed there).
To all of you who made it this far, I'm not aiming this at anyone, but this is my perspective. Thanks for reading it x3 Have a good one ^.^
Yours truly,
Shinela
First of all, and a very common argument: You guys make a twinking site that's this successful, go on, good luck mate
Now the proper argument, and this is from personal experience as a guild master:
It is impossible to control an entire group. It is more impossible to be consistent amongst a larger group of officers or moderators. Sure, the moderators are moderators, but take it from a guild's perspective here. All those officers are people just like yourself who have gone out of their way to take the effort to do it. On a site like this, you have to read a lot of posts and judge people for their general behaviour. Taking example of a recent post: telling people to "kys", especially if there's no incentive to having a clear, obvious laugh, would get you banned elsewhere with a lot less care of "Let me listen to your story." Nah, you broke a general rule of how to act towards people. Get over it.
Now I'm not saying the officers are right or wrong, but they can't all think the exact same way. They're all individual people with their own ideas of "This is too far" and "This isn't". On moderator isn't better than the other, either. If one mod decided you should get banned for it, maybe it should be a general discussion but I feel that that mod has his knowledge. And yeah, mistakes are made very often, don't get me wrong, but there's no need to start a thread about it. Take things civil, talk like a person don't act like a herd of sheep trying to start a mutiny, this isn't Pirates of the Caribbean.
So one last thing I want to cover here, because I know I'll get bombarded with "But this and that". I haven't really noticed any faulty behaviour with the mods, but that's only my experience and you could have genuinely had experience of bad moderating, and I would agree to some, disagree to others, but I want to give you my idea. So far I've had no issue with any mods whatsoever. I feel like I'm okay with the mods, and the mods are okay with me. Why? Idk, I'm not toxic I guess.
So yeah, this is a valid point. That could be improved upon, but then again. In the past, I've learned that having rules written out, people will ALWAYS search those nooks and sides going "Oh but the rules don't state that specifically". They need constant readjustment for those kind of people and it's generally just a true horror.
This question is directly towards the mods, but.. Do you guys have a specific forum area for mods alone that regulars can't see? Maybe write everything down there like I used to on my old guild site. You can discuss like "This person did this and that, help me look into it and judge with me" so no rash choices are made. (Of course, heavily toxic behaviour has to be acted quickly upon, but provide all proof needed there).
To all of you who made it this far, I'm not aiming this at anyone, but this is my perspective. Thanks for reading it x3 Have a good one ^.^
Yours truly,
Shinela
Mvq
2016 TC Champion
I disagree with you. Mods should only act within their guidelines, which means every Mod will make the same decision in every situation, similarly to how Police arrests are done. If Cops would arrest people based on their personal opinion we'd have a shitshow in real life.
And if you think managing a TOU is cancer then you're in the wrong business of being a Mod / Admin, similarly, if you think Law is cancer then you shouldn't be a lawyer / judge.
Shinela
Not your everyday tank
Fair point, but I didn't say it had to be judged by personal opinion. I just said that in most cases, there's always a personal bias. It's not easy to control a big group.
Police officers often do things wrong too. Some suddenly shoot someone because they feel threatened, and don't lose their job for it. His choice was terrible, but what if he felt that was the right thing to do at the time?
Consistency is needed, but not always possible.
At the end of my post I offered a question to the mods, might help gain some consistency even
Mvq
2016 TC Champion
I didn't claim that mistakes don't happen.
Personal bias is impossible when guidelines are followed.
When Cops do a wrongful arrest due to bias they are in EVERY SINGLE scenario NOT following guidelines.
When a Cop shoots someone because they feel threatened they are not following guidelines either.
Who are you arguing against?
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