roudy said:im still not sure why you guys cant just let this die yet...
allahkazam said:come on saxx everyone knows 19s is trash. people were shocked that focus macros were being used in 29s up until two weeks ago.
SÃ xxon said:i knw but focus macros are one of the most basic pvp tools lmfao
Willyshatner said:I also find it hard to agree with you on anything considering the vast difference between alliance and horde in games where alliance has a good team, has always been the level of communication that horde lacks. I'm sorry, but it doesn't take a lot of skill or gear to kill people when you have an entire offense focusing that person down. It's not hard to see why a team does so well when they can FF correctly against teams that don't FF at all. I'm 99% sure it has nothing to do with focus macros or spin jumping, and everything to do with a player calling out a target to kill in vent, and the other players in vent targeting that person (together) and killing it.
I'm also 99% sure that a team who isn't focusing anything down, or staying together as a group, is going to lose simply because of that, barring any amount of individual skill present. 5 v 1 anyone?
Ohai said:I'd imagine letting us vent in this thread is preferable to deleting it and having it spill into a dozen new threads.
Daydra said:Lol until franchi made me fear the ban bomb..... I'm not willing to be the one to test the waters.
I realize there's a lot of ways to run the flag, but predictability isn't helping either. If someone plays both factions and plays frequently, it's a safe bet players on both teams have noticed similar patterns. It doesn't take hours of video review or shrieking in vent to know 99% of our FCs will be on the enemy tunnel's roof. On one hand, it's good to know where to go, but so does the opposing team.
Willyshatner said:I would call it more group skill than personal skill having the impact, and largely being due to how well they communicate. I really would love to step up and put forth the same level of communication that they do as a leader, and I would love it if we could get to that point. The first steps in that really are to get everyone in vent.
Even if we really are at a lower level than them at first, we really don't have to be. We can step it up, but that first step is still going to be getting everyone in vent. I know it's hard right now, but all we can do is keep trying.
Getting everyone in vent is something we are not going to get on horde side short of a premade, we are lucky most of the time if we get half the team in vent, even luckier if those 5 in vent have mics.
Calling out interrupts CC and focus targets is wonderful, and you may have noticed we do it on d all the time, but it really makes no difference when half the team isn't there to hear it.
So willy whats your magic plan to get all the horde in vent?
Thanks for finally getting a macro made after what now 3 months?
The simple fact is that many horde never have and never will join vent. and because on occasion they get into games against bad alliance they think it's fine and that they don't need vent.
So how about we concentrate on things that we actually have influence over and try to get better?
But he shouldn't have to learn to play, the rest of his team should get in vent so he can get carried.
Wineheals said:While I totally agree, being in vent will also require some to restrain themselves from destructive criticism or irrelevant chatting during battle. From what I've seen so far on this forum and Bliz's, I don't know if that's possible.
I believe we can do better, too. I'm not a quitter.
roudy said:i just find it amazing that its mostly horde players fighting among themselves, is it really that bad right now?
Ohai said:Being on the roof as an FC forces the other team to commit to the roof, and you can use LOS there to fight it out, drop to the cap, drop and go GY, drop and go second floor, or drop and loop back up the tunnel and onto the roof again.
In short it leaves you the most options, with the quickest route to be able to cap, and makes the other team have literally ONE way to get to you that is easily a chokepoint.
Franchi said:Right click the name in vent that so offends you select user, select mute.
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