Hunters lol
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allahkazam
Legend
Pyncheon on horde
Prynne (inc) on alliance
Prynne (inc) on alliance
Willyshatner
Legend
Any excuse not to play alliance, amirite?
Ohai
OG
All I will say is that when alliance was short or getting smashed I can and did swap, I can think of a couple times when tapout asked me in vent to go alliance, and while I didn't want to, I did. I get enough shit for playing double mongoose to sink a small battleship when I do though.
I get why its happening, and that people (myself included) gravitate towards playing with the team that coordinates better, and its seriously hard to resist doing.
I get why its happening, and that people (myself included) gravitate towards playing with the team that coordinates better, and its seriously hard to resist doing.
Franchi
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Willyshatner said:
Willy you know I have objections to more than one hunter per team at a time, hell I think games are a lot more fun when we have none. You think I want to encourage them by attempting to carry them?
Yes I prefer horde, I have always been horde, I know the horde players a lot better than the alliance ones. Despite that I have and will continue to play alliance when I am needed on alliance, FC beats me to it most times and if we both shift over horde will not have a fc and will get rolled.
Willyshatner
Legend
Which explains why you don't switch to alliance when we have 2-4 hunters on horde.
You're one of the more civil players to begin with, Ohai. You switch as needed probably more than anyone, and no one should hold that against you. The problem is that other players like Donteventrii are expecting DH to split the skill between both horde and alliance. I honestly don't think anyone on horde besides you and maybe FC are willing to go alliance no questions asked as needed, to compensate for more people playing on horde.
There's also this weird double/triple standard where some players are having this aversion to having 3-4 hunters on the opposing team, but seem to be okay with it on their team. Or are okay when it's 3-4 shamans, rogues, priests, paladins, or [insert class here].
Donteventrii
OG
Willyshatner said:
The absolute worse. Yep.
Willyshatner said:
One night of play and I can see your mistakes. I'm not wasting my time. I'm also looking at my own infrequent mistakes, so that I am better prepared in the future. So in the end I am at least helping everyone by making myself a better player. See how that works?
Willyshatner said:
Define "play the game". You are mediocrity's finest. You aren't terrible, but you certainly aren't on Magnetronic's, Algio's, or even Vibes's (lol) level. If that's "knowing how to play the game" then so be it. But get better. Don't tell me "Horde need to get better". Look in the mirror and get the **** better yourself.
Willyshatner said:
Penn State isn't an exuse. It's a god damn gift. College only comes once. I'm in my final semester and intend to take full advantage of it.
allahkazam said:
This kind of post irks me to no end. I know that you can play your class well to a certain extent. I have certainly thanked you for off heals in the game. But I seem to know a little bit more about this given the experience of playing with Theodore, and Daydra can attest to it. Theodore will run in balls to the wall and start smashing up face and he will count on his healers to back him up. By your own admission, you do not do this. Warriors and rets should be the first ones into the fray, followed by an enhance shaman that has a shield swap macroed and bound.
You expect clothies (and obviously not stealthies or healers) to be the first ones into a major battle and end up with a successful outcome. Too often am I the first one engaging Alliance in mid. With a competent Alliance team now gunning for me at every chance (not a lie, I hear it in vent, over and over and over).
Put some skin in, and trust your heals will be there.
@Franchi, love the sig.
allahkazam
Legend
Yeah pardon me if I don't trust my healers after a week played with none of them on vent to let me know they have my back. My 19 friends do that and i have no fear rolling into a herd of uglies to CC or tunnel someone that we need to kill.
Donteventrii
OG
allahkazam said:
Daydra is always in vent. Ohai as well.
allahkazam
Legend
Didn't hear a peep from either of them saying they had my heals to engage, which is the exact reason the alliance shit on horde so much last night. Not meaning to call people out specifically, but it is what it is.
Franchi
Legend
allahkazam said:
Most of the long time horde vets have been rolling together or rolling there role for a long time, for instance i know i don't need to tell yukie who to cc on the roof, i know i can trust her to do it right, you can depend on your healers in this bracket more often than not they will yell at you if you range em.
allahkazam
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Good to know for the future. I'll be sure to charge into large groups more often =P
It's honestly just a communication issue, which is still the difference between the alliance and horde vent channels last night.
It's honestly just a communication issue, which is still the difference between the alliance and horde vent channels last night.
Willyshatner
Legend
Glad we agree.
At best our twink games are glorified pugs. What you call 'mistakes' are simply the effects of it being a pug. There is nothing at stake for any of these players to play perfectly. There are no ratings to be had. There is no better tier of gear to be earned. You're expecting these games to replace level 85 rated games, that you refuse to participate in for whatever reason, which simply isn't going to happen. Expecting people to perfect their game, when many of them (myself included) are just happy to get games to begin with, is a ludicrous expectation.
The simple fact of the matter is that these are team based games, which means any one player is only as good as his team. The foundation of teamwork is coordination, and the foundation of coordination is communication. You need all three, which are completely independent of personal skill, in order to do well in games.
Right now horde is missing that key to victory. Any victories we had prior to these last few game nights were because the other team was communicating even less than we were.
The sad fact is that you're ego and negativity are a far greater detriment and only serve to drive a wedge in any efforts we put forth as a team. You're the Charles Barkley of twinks, and that's why you're the worst player I have ever seen. There's a lot more to this game than just pushing buttons correctly.
See how that works?
Your opinions are whatever you choose them to be. I don't need your approval to know that I am a superior player than you. I may not show it frequently, but I also don't sit around waiting for you to be watching. You have to remember that I also play level capped pvp, and twinking for me is a break from that. If I wanted to go balls to the wall in BGs I'd just go play my druid or rogue @ 85, where there's a good reason to.
Horde DO need to get better at their communication. That's an easy obstacle to overcome, much easier than learning how to push the buttons correctly at the right times. I am not an exception to that statement either. The difference between me and you is that instead of making excuses not to do anything to fix the problem, I am more than willing to step up and lead if that will help our team get better at this whole communication thing.
I'll even do it in game.
Because I am sure you're in college every minute of every day, especially during the brief time period you'd normally be playing. Like what, 9-10:30 pm? I'm sure at the very least you could have poked your head in games and said hi.
I'm sure if you can find the time to post or sift through hours of fraps footage, you can find the time to play.
Last night? Nope. But there have been many other games on other nights, prior to the DH kids coming to 29s, where horde were clearly dominating, had multiple hunters, and you made no mention of being unable to play horde side.
I'm just trying to draw a distinction between why it's okay to play with 3 hunters on horde, but not on alliance.
Franchi
Legend
Dow we play in the same bracket?????
after that post I'm thinking no.
I will switch to alliance if they are losing and don't have more than 2 hunters.
I will continue to play for the horde otherwise.
It's really simple willy, horde rarely has more than 1 hunter per game we often have none, last night is an aberration that reflects the frustration of many horde with hunters.
Daydra
Legend
I love how a civil morning discussion turns into aggressive back and forth argueing by night.
Franchi please don't do quote wars with Willy, Willy please stop antagonizing Franchi for responses when you are already quite clear on his stances, Dont well just Don't.
Goodness gracious no wonder noone can work as a team, they are too busy formatting their next online arguement.
Franchi please don't do quote wars with Willy, Willy please stop antagonizing Franchi for responses when you are already quite clear on his stances, Dont well just Don't.
Goodness gracious no wonder noone can work as a team, they are too busy formatting their next online arguement.
Willyshatner
Legend
Chill out on that Moonshine, and maybe you'd remember better.
So you're saying that you'll play horde, even if they have 2 or more hunters on the team, and only play alliance when they have no more than two hunters AND are getting their asses kicked. Yes, excellent double standard broski.
BTW, can I get a swig o dat shine?
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