Hpal Hotfix
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kratos
Xarbage
Seeing as the moments when Blizzard answers our hopes and prayers are far and few between,
I think we can overlook it this time.
Snowjobs
Fluffy
Alright im going to be perfectly honnest . I LOVE where heals and damage are at now . Bg's take cordination now and calling out targets for quick burst and cc. if you dont like the healing roll a tauren ele sham and go engineering for bomb interupts. proceed to lol as you completely lock down a healer for 30 sec
Preeztess
Legend
This.
As a healer, 99% of the time I sit there healing the FC against hordes of Horde and nobody locks me down. One stun won't do it, you better throw out a weak stun, make me use my trinket, then hit me with a Pally stun/War Stomp followed by a silence. It takes skill to stop me, but in reality, is that a bad thing?
Franciska
Legend
Yeah standing still on one spot and just healing yourself and teammates costless to 75%-100% hp is fine and totally not broken at all!
inoobupro
Banned
healing feels so wrong on many levels.It used to take skill to get out of a hunters clutch and if u were bad or teammates didnt help or his teammates show up and you are done,.Now druids and paladins regin supreme.
This is again coming from someone who hates paladins and druids.Druids because 95% of them ONLY HEAL THEMSELVES WHEN UR IN DEEP *** and never save you and just run.And stealth to steal your kills OR STEALTH WHEN IM GETTING ASSRAPED BY ROUGES. And fighting druids is like a leather paladin with HoTs but druids have damage abilities but paladins just..heal...heal. .Also that pisses me off is that no cooldown travel form like infinite no cd escape artist.
And this fucking bear form(WHY THE does my shaman not get more hp i can morph into a wofl too...and why can a druid be a prot warrior and a healer at the same time in bear form) .And why do i not get entangling roots.And moonfire to keep rouges in stealth.ALL IN ONE OP toolkit.Like a paladin.2 of the gayest things in this game
but now its boring i sit there and spam infinite healing surge or penance. PW shield got buffed for approx 250-300 more absorbtion.
the reason why i ran FOUR hunters was because thats how many it took to global down a 24 healer in cata.Especially those effin paladinsNow its impossible to keep those 2 under control.If anyone queues up with 2 druids 3 paladins (all well geared) well you essentially won(if playing objectively for flags)
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Lil
SV huntard
I noticed how almost everyone happy with the healers atm are healers except for swoops. I completely disagree that healers are supposed to always stay alive and be able to 1v3 everything. If that's what you think then whats the point of even rolling a dps when even as a hunt if you miss one stun or cc and they get one heal off boom full hp with one spell. Dps is having to get every cc and every stun right just to be pointless with one healers heal..
Healing was FINE where it was before as they could 1v1 anything but with resil and dps classes doing less damage it makes no sense to keep healing buffed. There was a couple dps that needed buffs and hunts needed nerfs but Rdruids only needed a slight buff in healing and Rshammy probably could have used some actual dps but Hpals and priests needed no buffs at all
Healing was FINE where it was before as they could 1v1 anything but with resil and dps classes doing less damage it makes no sense to keep healing buffed. There was a couple dps that needed buffs and hunts needed nerfs but Rdruids only needed a slight buff in healing and Rshammy probably could have used some actual dps but Hpals and priests needed no buffs at all
Aradiel
Legend
There's not enough CC in this bracket to lock down a healer. Also, because healers are so OP you see a lot of them, further compounding the problem. HKs are much harder to come by now. It's debatable whether the requirement for working together is a good thing or not. As a solo player, I hate it, but my opinion on that isn't the main issue. Considering how everyone got more HP and reslience and everyone does less damage, having healers constantly able to heal everyone to full in one ability and never run OOM is ridiculous.
Replacing OP huntards with OP healtards is not the way to balance the game.
Replacing OP huntards with OP healtards is not the way to balance the game.
La'Haryl
Legend
Someone hasn't logged in in the past 20 hours.
Doreah
Legend
I guess you missed the part where they were allow to heal because no one locked them down and the taking of skill to do it.. That's the thing about DPS they think that all they need to do is keep hitting someone over and over with no regard to the players who play to make that not work.
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Lil
SV huntard
I agree that healing needs tuned down, but it shouldn't go back to the way it was. Some people need to realise how the dynamic of pvp has changed. CC is no longer optional - It's absolutely mandatory. If you deploy your CC correctly, and work as a team, things WILL die, and you'll win games in the process. That's the way it is now and the way it should be.
Get used to the fact that you can't simply mash dps buttons and expect to get your way. Not anymore. You have to use your brain a bit more now. God forbid
Absolutely nothing was wrong with healers before. Only one that may have needed a small heal buff was druids. like said before there isn't enough cc to even 2v1 healers and if people time their cc perfectly all a healer needs to do is cast one heal to get back to full hp which if you think is right then you should wake up. Having 15 total deaths for the whole bg cause there is 10 healers isn't fun. Having a fc chase down another fc all around the map cause they know they have 4 healers on their back and can't die isn't how it should be. Healers getting one cast off between a cc and being back at full hp is not fair.
Doreah
Legend
I agree that healing needs tuned down, but it shouldn't go back to the way it was. Some people need to realise how the dynamic of pvp has changed. CC is no longer optional - It's absolutely mandatory. If you deploy your CC correctly, and work as a team, things WILL die, and you'll win games in the process. That's the way it is now and the way it should be.
Get used to the fact that you can't simply mash dps buttons and expect to get your way. Not anymore. You have to use your brain a bit more now. God forbid
EXACTLY. PvP is suppose to be a team game of strategy. Not 3 over here, 2 over there and a few running around doing who knows what.
Franciska
Legend
It took 6 minutes with with 5-6 BiS geared people to nuke down one non boa Hpal. Stop trying to defend your overpowered healing class, because flaunting with fake skill blizzard granted you isn't very cool.
Franciska
Legend
23 mana for 1000 hp heal? Hit me with that, since it isn't broken or anything. 4-5% of mana for 75% hp. HMMMMM tough call!
inoobupro
Banned
Coming from a huntard multiboxer, this whole QQ post is pure comedy gold, lol. Did Dr Evil-Blizzard steal your mojo? Learn to play and CC
please.This is coming from a healer main myself. our 'priest guru;'' i have two priests aswell
474 bgs played on my priests alone i know what im talking about
Nastybimbo @ Daggerspine - Game Guide - World of Warcraft
Demopan @ Daggerspine - Game Guide - World of Warcraft this was a f2p priest i never took her to a bg with any p2p enchants or once i leveld to 21+, was used solely for minor magic resitance potions.
Not to mention my main is a rshammy and a i used a prot intelllect stacking pal that i used to share with a friend in cata.
No, they fucked up healing.Completely.
Before any druid that would have been easily dispatched can now laugh at any dps and lousily cast his rejuvinate and /LOL at you.Paladins is just lol with their armor and hsock/word of glory and FoL.
I actually like always living on the edge in cata you fucked something up well...guess you take a trip to the graveyard.
And i know how to CC LOL. Thats the reason why my pocket was prot for avengers shield silence. Some more CC on those healers when i saw ANY healer with full mana it just thew me into rage every enemy healer must die with full mana. Thats the reason why I used a hunter..no i never liked being one but there were hunters which pissed me off and attacked me evreytime i was on my healer i did some basic calculations and figured out I could be the ''best'' and i wanted to show them ''how to play a hunter''.If u notice in any of my multiboxing screenshots those healers never get to pull off higher than 10k healing.Because I never let them.
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Swoops
Legend
Healing got nerfed heavily already. Most of this exagerration right now is about the implementation of base resilience and the hunter nerfs. Guess what? Flash of light crit for over 1100 pre-patch. My f2p resto shaman heals for maybe 120 more with a Healing Surge (low 500's). Yes, that's a sizeable increase, but health pools increased too. You aren't magically filling whole health bars now. Mana efficiency is a major issue, and maybe holy shock/PW:S could use a bit of a nerf, but the hotfixes on healing in BGs were quick and signficant.
The majority of people here are QQing about their burst damage being nerfed and an inability/refusal to work well with others in a TEAM GAME. Yes, relying on shitty pugs can suck and be frustrating. Its no longer the bracket where you can just troll around globaling people playing in first person with a 3 holy power TV or a focus dump. That bracket's gone. Either you adapt to this new PoS one that relies on teamwork, communication, CC and intelligence, or stop giving Blizzard your $0.00 a month.
The majority of people here are QQing about their burst damage being nerfed and an inability/refusal to work well with others in a TEAM GAME. Yes, relying on shitty pugs can suck and be frustrating. Its no longer the bracket where you can just troll around globaling people playing in first person with a 3 holy power TV or a focus dump. That bracket's gone. Either you adapt to this new PoS one that relies on teamwork, communication, CC and intelligence, or stop giving Blizzard your $0.00 a month.
La'Haryl
Legend
^This. A thousand times this.
People are just complaining because it actually takes half a brain to play successfully now. Then everyone's complaining that their class only uses 2-4 buttons which doesn't make sense to me because they obviously don't even know how to play 2-4 button classes if they can't kill healers.
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CripzBlood
Legend
nerf rogues and nerf priests if u guys want balance