5.0.4. impact on F2P bracket

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Hey F2P'ers,

Lately I haven't really been around in this bracket. Soon I am planning to make my return though. Meanwhile, I was hoping you guys could give me a little information on how 5.0.4. changed the bracket so far. Are we still good on F2P? Has class imbalance increased or decreased? If you should rank classes from strong to weak purely based on the strength of their abillities, what would be the order you would rank them in? And finally, has the F2P community shrunk or grown since the newest patch? All in all, what has the impact of patch 5.0.4. been so far?

Thanks in advanced,
Regards,
Silverswift
 
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verh said:
its better then cata
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In your opinion. And why would you think that? Healers dominate the fucking bracket with infinite mana bullshit and some of them do as much as your god damn dps can. What the hells the point in playing a dps class anymore?

I've seen undergeared druids rape face. UNDERGEARED. With fucking green gear. This update has serious balance problems. Saying it's better than Cata doesn't make much sense.

Same goes for them priests. Lol at a bubble that can absorb like 1k dmg. I'm sorry, why do people care about AGM anymore? just get a fucking pocket healer bro! AGMs in abundance. They LITERALLY can't die unless you get like 3 - 4 people trying to kill 1. ANd yeah sure, ''they're not meant to be solo'd''.. but if you think having 3 - 4 people to kill 1 target is balanced and fair, then you're a god damn moron.

There's also the issue of druids achieving super saiyan speed. Which is faster than your god damn mount.

This update is fucked. You can harp about 'skill' and long games all that you want. But it's not fun to me anymore. I don't want to play a god damn strategy game. If that were the case, I'd go play Warhammer. It also takes no 'skill' to be a god damn masochist, it takes an idiot.

I've actually noticed that games can be much more unbalanced now than they could before. Or, at least, I find myself in more situations where it's horribly tilted to one side. Which is the horde side. Because alliance sucks piss.

I hate the update. Fuck it.
 
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Licholas said:
Well right thar's yur problem
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I mean literally a strategy game. I don't think you can call the WSG or Arathi Basin of now a strategy game because it's kind of like strategy for babies.

Well, the point was, I like my games to be less boring and slow. Boring and slow is, I find, more akin to what WSG and Arathi Basin has become right now.

I recall a recent instance where me and my whole team spent 20 entire minutes trying to down a lvl24 holydin with some druids and a priest as backup. I have never seen such ridiculous shit in my life. Sure we managed to cap the flag, but it was SUCH a chore. At the end of the game, I didn't feel like a winner at all.

And another Arathi Basin match where we spent the whole game trying to def the stables. This was a funny Arathi Basin match, it took like 15 mins to kill something, and it kept going like that until the game finished. No matter what I had spammed, no matter what skills I had used, it just seemed like I was obsolete. I didn't change anything. Obviously, I don't want to be or feel like bg jesus, but it just.. WHY WAS I THERE? It was a god damn healerfest, and the only people that made a difference there were the ones spamming heals.

It just, bgs, as they are. They don't make sense to me anymore. A game can go on forever in some tug of war nonsense, yet there's a time limit in a WSG match. It's too long and arduous for such a limitation.
 
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Lets return to Cata games so we have 70% of the BG's full of Hunters. Its rather easy to smash healers with Prot Paladins, gimmick but effective. And why do you guys cry about 20 games? Higher lvl brackets are much worse.
 
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Garrett said:
I've actually noticed that games can be much more unbalanced now than they could before. Or, at least, I find myself in more situations where it's horribly tilted to one side. Which is the horde side. Because alliance sucks piss.

I hate the update. Fuck it.
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Yeah bad Hunters tend to make games bad for Ally. Horde clearly wins on raw skill. /opinionated
 
Hello my fellow life menders and givers,Most of the tuning that has been done so far has been focused on level 90, that's why sometimes we may see a few abilities that are clearly too good at lower levels. (Holy Shock comes to mind, and this one has already been hotfixed). We’re not focusing our efforts in balancing abilities prior to Mists, the most important thing right now is that we get everything tuned correctly for the new MoP content and particularly for level 90.
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Healing is Perfect the way it is. - Forums - World of Warcraft

give it time, like 3~5 months
right now blue focus on endgame pve/pvp balance,
priest bubble, healing and infinity mana will be look in too. Soon

as for the Flash druids, well atleast you know where he will waiting with the flag.
so for stratergy, turtle would be bad idea, since druid can pick and run so fast,
they can cap under 1 or 2 mins
keep pressure on the flag, and should be fine.
 
Adapt or sink me hearties. :p
 
Franciska said:
Lets return to Cata games so we have 70% of the BG's full of Hunters.
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never had avg of 70% hunts maybe 50% at most and now its around 50% healers which is much worse as any MoP healer>cata hunt by far.

Franciska said:
Horde clearly wins on raw skill. /opinionated
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LOLOLOLOL. I seriously hope you're joking. 4 24s per bg and 5 healers per bg is real skill. brb rerolling a horde priest in greens so I can say I have skill
 
As of now it sucks. I played this bracket for 6 months from dec-june and had a blast. Had about 60k hks amongst my toons. I made a few new twinks and did not have fun at all. I can't see me returning to this bracket again unless it's due to some end of xpac lull and balanced has been tweaked.
 
Healing was pretty much spot on for cata, well, I was happy with the healing system, with mana conservation a major factor. 24 holydins were op but at least across all classes it was more balanced.

I'm sure Horde are having a good chuckle, like Llilhunter has said and what I have witnessed is at least 2 24's in a good 80% of WSG bgs (EU), I usually (and hold my hands up to admitting) end up slating the Alliance team for "lack of teamplay" but overall its not our fault we lose when we're being farmed by lines of paladins and spriests at the gy. No skill from horde, probably all ex-ally hunters. I might start making a list of ally/horde 24s and their appearances just so I can rant some more.

Keep calm and carry on.
 
An important thing to say if ur back to the bracket now: if you see that the other side got 2 24 priests and ur team doesn't have at least a 24 priest too, just leave. They can bring almost any f2p class down in less than 3 secs and takes long to make them bite the dust
 
Garrett said:
In your opinion. And why would you think that? Healers dominate the fucking bracket with infinite mana bullshit and some of them do as much as your god damn dps can. What the hells the point in playing a dps class anymore?

I've seen undergeared druids rape face. UNDERGEARED. With fucking green gear. This update has serious balance problems. Saying it's better than Cata doesn't make much sense.

Same goes for them priests. Lol at a bubble that can absorb like 1k dmg. I'm sorry, why do people care about AGM anymore? just get a fucking pocket healer bro! AGMs in abundance. They LITERALLY can't die unless you get like 3 - 4 people trying to kill 1. ANd yeah sure, ''they're not meant to be solo'd''.. but if you think having 3 - 4 people to kill 1 target is balanced and fair, then you're a god damn moron.

There's also the issue of druids achieving super saiyan speed. Which is faster than your god damn mount.

This update is fucked. You can harp about 'skill' and long games all that you want. But it's not fun to me anymore. I don't want to play a god damn strategy game. If that were the case, I'd go play Warhammer. It also takes no 'skill' to be a god damn masochist, it takes an idiot.

I've actually noticed that games can be much more unbalanced now than they could before. Or, at least, I find myself in more situations where it's horribly tilted to one side. Which is the horde side. Because alliance sucks piss.

I hate the update. Fuck it.
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god damn thats alot of god damns, blasphemy! blasphemy! i tell you!
 
Lillhunter said:
never had avg of 70% hunts maybe 50% at most and now its around 50% healers which is much worse as any MoP healer>cata hunt by far.
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Welp atleast I dont get insta gibbled now by 7 aimed shots to my face.


Although I do kind of miss it, if they had just toned down the god dam damage, I would have liked cata much more.
 
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Garrett said:
I've seen undergeared druids rape face. UNDERGEARED. With fucking green gear. This update has serious balance problems. Saying it's better than Cata doesn't make much sense.
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Exactly, it's just like Hunters, Pallies, Arcane Mages, and Ferals in Cata! Oh wait..

Pros of Mop
Just about every class got a considerable movement buff, with the exceptions of rogues.
Rogues traded movement for more damage (could also be a Con).
Pallies and shamans got offensive dispel.
DPSers can no longer solo healers.
More unique abilities add more distinction between classes.
Overall, more utility has been added then taken away (rogues).
DPSers are more competive DPS and control-wise (there are still gaps but they are considerably smaller)
rDruids are viable for healing.
BOOMKINS
Cons
Healers have too much mana regen.
Priest damage and the shield should be tuned down a little.
Ehnc and Fury's damage got gutted.

Overall Pros > Cons
 
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