EU+US how is your artifact ability performing in bgs?

http://www.wowhead.com/artifact-calc/warlock/demonology/FuUEIlBJIBSTA0lQFJYDSaA0nAFJ0BVKAQ

The golden dragons all suck! My build is a survival build and I built it without the intention of going past level 13. And pick demon skin as a talent. Its very good at this level and keeps your pet alive...unkillable actually. I felt bad for another twink lock I faced without the talent - my two dots can kill his pet and the poor sucker was recasting summon felguard the whole fight.
 
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http://www.wowhead.com/artifact-calc/warlock/affliction/Fg_pInA5MDOUATlgM5gDOcAToAE-cBVJAQ

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/bleeding-hollow/Mkreturns/advanced

Here's my aff lock btw. The Sweet Souls talent heals me for about 70% of my health, and I'm sitting at 289k in bgs. This not counting my passive shield from demon skin. If you're thinking about making a lock, I would definitely lean towards affliction first due to its simplicity and raw damage output

Note: I have two different talent specs, one for bgs and one for arena. Grimoire of sacrifice is what I use in BGs.
 
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thank's mate.
I will definitely make a lock once I get a new computer. Probably affliction since that is what i played in s1-s4.
As of right now i'm leaning towards 101 though since I won't have the time to hunt down those elusive 99 boes.

Also: the 7.1.5 affliction talent changes look great for bgs. Especially malefic grasp and contagion.
 
Naxxramaskid said:
I won't have the time to hunt down those elusive 99 boes.
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MK doesnt have a single one.

You're talking about maybe 1-2% difference in having and not having BoEs... against people that wont even have artifacts.

edit- in instanced PvP, that is. Artifacts are the twinking at 99, Filling every slot with BiS is mostly just for swag. All our extra traits are gonna be the difference, not 10 ilvl for a few (several) hundred thousand gold.
 
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Warglaive said:
MK doesnt have a single one.

You're talking about maybe 1-2% difference in having and not having BoEs... against people that wont even have artifacts.

edit- in instanced PvP, that is. Artifacts are the twinking at 99, Filling every slot with BiS is mostly just for swag. All our extra traits are gonna be the difference, not 10 ilvl for a few (several) hundred thousand gold.
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Not to nitpick but if you have patience all those BoE's can be had for sub 20K each and most I've gotten for sub 10K on my best geared 99, my DH. My MOST expensive 99/101 Twink so far has been my Pally because I wanted max Sockets/Leech and had to get every single slot for a Shockadin build. Even then I've only spent maybe 120K on his gear, granted it's mostly in the 835-850 range.

Also it's more than 1-2% difference in iPvP for a 90-97 vs a 98/99 with Arty & Legion epics. However you're correct that the MAIN difference is the Artifact Weapon.
 
DeLindsay said:
BoE's can be had for sub 20K each
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Sure can. How many tokens/transfers you done so far? ;)

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Also it's more than 1-2% difference in iPvP for a 90-97 vs a 98/99 with Arty & Legion epics.
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But not for a 99 that's done all the legion zones. That's the difference he's talking about - over and above quested gear.

And that's 1-2%. "i'm not gonna do 99 cuz i cant get BoE" isnt really a solid decision from a performance perspective.

Just swag.

edit- if you want to do it that way, by all means.... but no one will notice the difference in performance in BGs.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/uldum/Boomstyk/simple
 
Warglaive said:
MK doesnt have a single one.

You're talking about maybe 1-2% difference in having and not having BoEs... against people that wont even have artifacts.

edit- in instanced PvP, that is. Artifacts are the twinking at 99, Filling every slot with BiS is mostly just for swag. All our extra traits are gonna be the difference, not 10 ilvl for a few (several) hundred thousand gold.
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This ^

I decided on 99 twinks due to the ease of actually making a twink since I'm addicted to PvP. With a few timewalking dungeons and power through the legion quests, you'll be fully geared 730ilvl/13 artifact level in a weekend. There is always the option to gear more and get more artifact levels, but my days of farming sunken temple 1000+ times for 13/13 of the eagle gloves in the 49 bracket are long over. I just want to log on and kill. If somebody at 730ilvl and 13 artifact level is complaining about losing to a twink with a few more BOEs, its a L2P/class issue.
 
Warglaive said:
Sure can. How many tokens/transfers you done so far? ;)
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The way I do it is purchase a Token via Cash on w/e Realm I need to buy said BoE, then I buy MANY other BoE's and other items I know I can sell for a higher price on my home Realm. After a month or so I Transfer a LvL 10 back with all that lewt and start selling all the extras on my AH. It can take me 2 weeks or so to sell it but once I do, I turn around and purchase another Token (via the Gold I made) and then use it for Game Time instead of paying monthly for a Sub with Cash (I have 3 active Accounts). This way any Token I purchase with Cash ends up feeding my Subs time via Gold to play WoW and also have my 99/101's decked out with at least starter BoE's.

Sure this method is time consuming and requires tons of patience but it works for me.
 
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If somebody at 730ilvl and 13 artifact level is complaining about losing to a twink with a few more BOEs, its a L2P/class issue.
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I'd say it really depends on the class. Balance druids are damn near impossible to stay on as a ret paladin especially in BGs where you have other people slowing you constantly. Not to mention the fact that it's really easy to get caught out in the open with nowhere to LoS. Arenas are probably another story with much easier LoS and not a bazillion people slowing you, but in BGs I find balance druids very difficult to kill.
 
Yea a lot of it does depend on the class. But a similarly skilled ret paladin sitting in 730ilvl should perform just about the same damage wise as a guy decked out like you. Artifact level is the biggest boost a 99 twink can give himself.

As for balance druids...they will always be top dmg in bgs if they know what they're doing. My balance druid buddy of mine with 710ilvl already reached 10 mil dmg in a game..would be more if I wasn't dotting everything up at the same time.
 
Alliance was pretty terrible the day i played a few weeks ago too. I carried the alliance to an inevitable loss on my aff lock and got carried by the horde for an easy win on my assn rogue.

Im spending more time gearing mine than playing tho, because i know if i lose hope for PvP i wont do anything to them at all... so i'll queue when they're finished or as finished as i plan to. Making lots of classes too so i can see how everything works. Keeps me occupied al least.
 
what's your locks name? I've been playing with the dwarf crew for a while but im AFK for the next 30. ill be on most of the night.
 
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/kelthuzad/Sceery/simple

I almost exclusively use her for BoE farming tho, i think i only played the one game so far. Pretty soon i might decide to start PvPing more since i'm losing interest in making new twinks.

What im really searching for is any trait or ability or dragon that is a game changer. The ret ashes one is a decent example, but still not amazing. Nothing really looks good, and even if they look good they dont really perform.

Like i said, keeps me occupied tho.
 
Balance druid full moon I imagine is the hardest hitting ability in the bracket. My artifact talents lent to my survivability, global maximization and dot damage. Can't complain.

Easiest bracket I've played in years! Especially now that I know my old buddy warglaive is in town.
 
Frost mage's ebonbolt is a heavy hitter. Unholy's apocalypse does full damage in pvp now. I imagine that with the pestilent pustules talent you can to some really scary things to someone in a strangulate with gargoyle out. Unholy is mechanically superior to most classes right now and they're getting some very strong buffs for 7.1.5. last time I checked.

And then there's destro.....two destro locks popping dimensional rifts at once:

 
Rdruid's ability doubles the efficiency of the hots on all targets. basically its insane. rdruid can also top KBS and dps if youre feral spec. i have a few ss of me in a game where i have top kbs, dmg and heals. its on par with boomkin as far as OP goes but youll never do dmg like a boomkin. you can just affect the game as strong as a good boomkin could. in fact, there might not be a better dueling class inside bgs than resto. some good rogues can give you trouble but you generally can always kite away so i rarely die

i was playing with a rank 21 boomy missing 2 746s and he ended with 18 kills and i had 17. its easily the best healing class in the bracket and the artifact is awesome because you can cast tranquility on the move. and it heals a lot
 
kidney said:
Rdruid's ability doubles the efficiency of the hots on all targets. basically its insane. rdruid can also top KBS and dps if youre feral spec. i have a few ss of me in a game where i have top kbs, dmg and heals. its on par with boomkin as far as OP goes but youll never do dmg like a boomkin. you can just affect the game as strong as a good boomkin could. in fact, there might not be a better dueling class inside bgs than resto. some good rogues can give you trouble but you generally can always kite away so i rarely die

i was playing with a rank 21 boomy missing 2 746s and he ended with 18 kills and i had 17. its easily the best healing class in the bracket and the artifact is awesome because you can cast tranquility on the move. and it heals a lot
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That's interesting. I have a rank 15 resto druid but I haven't actually tried feral affinity. Only ever guardian. Always assumed feral aff didn't do enough damage, I'll have to try it out.

edit; Tried it. It's good but I prefer disc as I don't have to be in melee range.
 
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I just hit 99 on my new disc and havent done the artifact quest yet, but the spec itself is pretty enjoyable. I've never played one before and really only just leveled as disc thru WoD yesterday... dunno about being a healer tho, or being expected to be. =P
 
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