Heals vs Damage (Patch 5.3)

Good hunters will be God/easy mode next patch (they are only OP now). So I probably wont play much on my hunturd next patch; i'll feel like a bully playing it. But unlike cata, the average and below average huntards wont be super affective or op, they will just be pesky like they are now. Just my prediction.
 
40% resil and 45% fatigue*

If healers can solo any dps then why roll a dps?
If healers can 1v2 any dps then why would anyone roll a dps?

Idk why anyone can possibly say a healer should be able to 1v2 dps cause haven't we seen with that power then we will just see 5 heals a game then when they 1v2 it will be 5v10 and the team with 5 healers will have 5 extra players.. If something has the ability to solo 2 classes at once then why wouldn't someone reroll to that..? Nerf heals and fix spell hit and do the lfr type of thing for roles and this bracket will be 5 times better then it is atm

As i mentioned in my post : I wrote survive and not killing them,
 
Rejoyce, I can play Deftspecter more and Sativa less.

I hiope fury works again.
 
A healer shouldn't be able to heal through 2 dps? Wtf? I think healers need to be alive to keep the DPS alive

I'm a healer and I'd prefer to not be able to solo dps so easily - and this is as a Shaman not Priest/Druid or Paladin - I can enjoy the fact of being able to survive but come on who wants healers that cannot be killed by a single person but take 3+ players to kill?
 
A dps shold be able to force a healer to only heal themselves and not attack or chain heal an entire group. 1 for 1. Silly that a druid can be fast do dps and heal 10 ppl all at once. The do all class should be worse than a priest at healing, but they took HOT from priest and with 40% reduction HOT is king and bubble is meh.

Used to be I played the 19 bracket and hunters rogues and druids (due to cheetah form and no mounts) reigned supreme. IMO the low brackets should be more about attrition and speed.
 
If a healer cannot heal others while getting dpsd BY ONE PERSON then what in the world would the point of a healer be? Do you just want to get rid of the option to heal? The majority of healers in this bracket have no idea what they are doing or don't even heal their teammates in the first place. Everyone complaining is just mad they are having a hard time killing something 1-3v1 and their eyepatches are failing them. Countless bgs have been won where I was vs 6 healers having only 1-3, plenty of efcs have died under 4+ healers watch. If you can get your team to work together you can easily take healers down 1 by 1. Its not healers its bad pugs
 
If a healer cannot heal others while getting dpsd BY ONE PERSON then what in the world would the point of a healer be? Do you just want to get rid of the option to heal? The majority of healers in this bracket have no idea what they are doing or don't even heal their teammates in the first place. Everyone complaining is just mad they are having a hard time killing something 1-3v1 and their eyepatches are failing them. Countless bgs have been won where I was vs 6 healers having only 1-3, plenty of efcs have died under 4+ healers watch. If you can get your team to work together you can easily take healers down 1 by 1. Its not healers its bad pugs

Never thought you would turn into another horde fanboy... You sure inoob didn't hack you? It's healers mainly coupled with pugs... Why did we go from around 5 healers total in cata to around 8 healers in mop? Cause they are OP and can solo anything.. Having a class that can solo anything is a stupid concept and just begging for everyone to make one.

Lets look at the 2 most QQ'd things in this bracket..

Cata hunts- great dmg/no heals
MoP healers- great heals/moderate dmg

If you are trying to say that healers should be able to 1v3 anything I can't take this seriously... What happens when there is 5 healers on horde? They should be able to group up and outheal 15 ppl.. oh wait.. There isn't 15 ally in the bg so now the horde team can completely control the bg with 5 people so what happens with the other 5 dps on horde? They do w/e they want cause ally is trying to just get a kill on a healer. Make something able to solo anything in the bracket and they will be overran and overplayed...


It's a nice thought to let 1 healer be able to heal through dps but that thought turns into crap when there is multiple healers and dps can't do crap.. If 5.3 makes this lfr queuing thing then this whole problem may get solved but for the past 3ish months it's been overwheling the bracket
 
[MENTION=14218]Lillhunter[/MENTION] I sware you read nothing

Being that your only class ever is a hunter/24 rogue I know you just want to be able to kill everything 1v1. Would it be fair if hunters could 1v1 everything including healers? Because they just about can, you almost have your way. How many occasions have you been in where 1 f2p healer stood there and killed off three people easily with no outside help, and how long does it usually take them? This is like my 12th edit.... mentioned in previous post... I have won many games where there have been 6+ healers on the other team... what happened to them being able to heal an entire network of hypothetical people?
 
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sorry lil but i think ur opinion is incorrect. If a healer heals for equal to what dps does the point of having one is totally null and void. healers are supose to be able to heal for more damage than a single dps can do . thats why there is cc and interupts and los'ing techniques to get the healer off the person its healing or interupted so that the target can be bursted down in that window . as a side effect if the healer can heal for more damage than a dps class can do ( ignoring interupts and cc) then yes they will be able to kill a non healing dps (like you) . thats why there isnt a 1v1 arena bracket . pvp takes cordnation not one hunter going pew pew and blowing stuff up .
 
Never thought you would turn into another horde fanboy... You sure inoob didn't hack you?

Stop smoking blunts Lil, and Hairy is right, part of the problem is bad pugs, on both sides. You've already admitted that you've been a part of terrible pugs recently, perhaps if your pugs were half-decent you could maybe get something done?
 
I agree with Snowjobs, but the problem is, that healers like he states them would have to have minimum DPS, otherwise they will, like atm, just 1v3 everything because they have the DPS to actually kill something. A non-Exospamming cata-hpaly (I have a close friend that never exospammed once in cata, and I've seen him solo various specs back then, even hunters with good timed HoJs/LoS) had really good healing, but if they didn't exospam, all the DPS they had was Judgement and Crusader Strike, this is how it SHOULD be, minimal DPS but strong healing, only then can balance even exist, otherwise everything will roll FotM OP-DPS to counter ridiculous DPS-healers (Denounce, anyone?) and vice versa.
 
With all the increased DPS Crits n CC's lately I've noticed the team with more DPS wins. This is my observation and experience pugging. I've been playing my huntards and am always near the top for DMG etc. It does take more skill and coordination to destroy healers than in CATA.

Of course when pugging its a roll of the dice with what team you get and face... jajajaja

Roll DPS and no heals... Roll Heals no DPS... FFS lol


Yesterday I got hit with 5 avenge shields... instant death... and let's not forget HOJ and SS.
 
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I made the Protection Warrior before patch to test. When patch came out I stopped playing Protection, played 1 BG and hated it. And I don't want to be a grammar Nazi but 'Maked' is really irritating me. It should be 'Its like if you made'. And what's your point with the Honourable Kill's? I wouldn't mind you 'Cripz' if you rolled an under powered, in fact not even that, If you didn't faceroll. The moment I stopped liking you was in a Warsong Gulch just after 5.2 came out. And I quote: "Protection Warrior's are so OP, man I need to level my Warrior" (obviously with incorrect spelling). I have noticed you comment on a lot of post's I put on Twink Info because you are upset about the things I said to you in that Warsong Gulch. I know I hurt your feeling's by opening your eyes to truth, you have been clouded by ignorance and I am sorry it was me that opened your eyes. These comment's on things I have said is not cool. I know you are trying to be clever and the sly remark's just make you look worse. I am not hating mate I just want you to stop. I suggest, the best thing for you to do now is to prove everybody wrong, go back to basic's, try and improve your playing so people wont hate.

Here is a video you should watch. Try practising your kitting on dummies which you can find in any of your main capital cities. Basic movements like getting a smooth circle, work out your focus CC macro's, learn to use your CC at the right time. All of this will come in time.

WoW PvP - Commentary Guide on How To Improve and Dominate in WoW PvP - YouTube

Thats ur opnion, u try to talk seriously with "faceroll", i still think u dont know what it really means.
My point was i can play other chars but my main will always be Hunter.
If i ever said that i gulch i was trolling. I maked Arms Warrior cuz i wanted to try it out, simple as that, I have no probelm if u played ur protwarr, tbh idc. dont talk shit about me rerolling, just cuz i maked new twink.
If u quote me and talk bad about me, u expect me to just let it pass? im not upset, anyone that states something about me that isnt true, i will defend myself, simple as that, doesnt means im upset with anyone just cuz im responding to wbhat they said about me.
Opened my eyes to truth? u know what u think isnt always truth, like it was proved be4.
Im not going to after you in bg or make char on ur realm to prove you wrong, If u think i faceroll keep it to you, so you dont have to hear what i think about you.
 
Thats ur opnion, u try to talk seriously with "faceroll", i still think u dont know what it really means.
My point was i can play other chars but my main will always be Hunter.
If i ever said that i gulch i was trolling. I maked Arms Warrior cuz i wanted to try it out, simple as that, I have no probelm if u played ur protwarr, tbh idc. dont talk shit about me rerolling, just cuz i maked new twink.
If u quote me and talk bad about me, u expect me to just let it pass? im not upset, anyone that states something about me that isnt true, i will defend myself, simple as that, doesnt means im upset with anyone just cuz im responding to wbhat they said about me.
Opened my eyes to truth? u know what u think isnt always truth, like it was proved be4.
Im not going to after you in bg or make char on ur realm to prove you wrong, If u think i faceroll keep it to you, so you dont have to hear what i think about you.

not to be a duche but haven't almost all of your posts in the bg scoarboard thread been as a paladin ?
 

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