Hardest and easiest f2p class to play

[Tilt Shift]

I think we tend to think of these terms as theoretical minimus or maximums when they are actually practical limits we observe every time we enter a bg.

I see skill floor as a measure of how easily a player can copy and paste their pve experience to pvp and still be successful. If a class uses the same sequence of attacks to kill the average player as it does to kill the average mob repeatedly and with little modification, than it has a low skill floor. Imo the classic example is bm hunter with a direct port of effective pve to pvp.

A skill cap is a measure of how well a player can utilize their class mechanics and is easiest to see as what makes rogue A different from rogue B. If both rogues behave the same way most of the time and are successful, than rogues have a low skill cap.

The real issue with the idea of skill caps and floors is that most of the time skill isn't even in the equation because we don't always see it when we look at metrics like hk's or total heals.

Ultimately, skill floor is more relevant as it's where most players live and is more easily reflected on a chart. In that vein, my list of what is easiest to play well @ 20-24:

bm hunter=24 s.priest=r/b druid
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fire mage

 

[The Saint]

I'm alot of things amigo - and confused is definitely one of them. I started to reply with a snarky comment then realized you are right after rereading the OP.

So screw you for being correct ya turdburglar.

+1 for getting turdburglar in. bonus points for shirtlifter.

 

[The Saint]

I think we tend to think of these terms as theoretical minimus or maximums when they are actually practical limits we observe every time we enter a bg.

I see skill floor as a measure of how easily a player can copy and paste their pve experience to pvp and still be successful. If a class uses the same sequence of attacks to kill the average player as it does to kill the average mob repeatedly and with little modification, than it has a low skill floor. Imo the classic example is bm hunter with a direct port of effective pve to pvp.

A skill cap is a measure of how well a player can utilize their class mechanics and is easiest to see as what makes rogue A different from rogue B. If both rogues behave the same way most of the time and are successful, than rogues have a low skill cap.

The real issue with the idea of skill caps and floors is that most of the time skill isn't even in the equation because we don't always see it when we look at metrics like hk's or total heals.

Ultimately, skill floor is more relevant as it's where most players live and is more easily reflected on a chart. In that vein, my list of what is easiest to play well @ 20-24:

bm hunter=24 s.priest=r/b druid
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everything else....
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fire mage

could you repeat that please...

 

[Junoo]

Saint is the hardest class to play.

 

[Velius]

Mage is easily the most difficult, I'm not saying that because I play one, I'm saying that because I play one and I suck at it.

Their DPS/burst phases takes more effort. You have to set up bursts, can't just focus dump or shield slam. Requires thought. Unlike every other class in this bracket except maybe like [MENTION=7286]Earlwing[/MENTION] said, maybe hunter, as far as getting the most out of your class goes and being utilized objectively on the field. But mage overall just because the class is difficult to play every step of the way.

Easiest would have to be "X" Priest. Bubble, infinite mana, can reset fights infinitely since DR's a joke, Can turret you through LoS, heal to full in a <2 second cast.

Only priest I've seen played to their full potential instead of just being facerolled through mid is [MENTION=16866]Izac[/MENTION]

 

[sevenslacks7]

I presume you're referring to the video, not the rant.

What don't you understand? The fact that I haven't played in this bracket for very long, or my opinion of the easiest class to play from my experience of the bracket?

No Im just saying that if you would have been here a bit ago then your opinion would have been completely different, just prepare yourself to have every patch bring a hysterically op class, and even with what warriors are right now I wouldnt think of them as op. Sorry if the response seemed rude xD , its just I already had the video in my signature .

 

[Earlwing]

I disagree with Mialo when it comes to Hpal skillcap. While their kit is very forgiving, and they are the strongest class overall, imo, I think that a lot of people underestimate the potential of an hpal with someone skilled at the helm. Unlike every other healer in the bracket, they do oom. They lost a lot of their finesse with the removal of holy light, which hurt them pretty bad. If they're forced to spam FoL, they run out of mana pretty quick. It might be easy to spam denounce and spam FoL, and then bubble to safety when you get fucked, but playing an hpal properly requires better positioning then a druid or shaman and more mana attentiveness than any other healer. I have only seen a couple other current hpals who know how to play offensively without spamming derpnounce. And that's where the divide in hpal skill really is. The proper utilization of their entire toolkit. As someone who has mained hpal since the dawn of f2p, it's so easy to see and recognize the discrepancy in skilled and derp hpals.

 

[Gulbon]

I'm the type of twinker that enjoys classes that are not difficult to play but not OP. Hence why I play Arms/Fury warrior on my orc. Haha Not much of a skill cap but it has a good skill floor if you know what I mean.


Warlocks impress me, really. Probably the hardest class to play, and one of the most underplayed. I actually got stunlocked and 3-4 shotted by an engineer warlock as an arms warrior with 1700, was already at 400 health when I was unstunned. So hard to play, but so powerful if played correctly.

Decent skill cap and an ungodly awesome skill floor. Always wanted to make one but never got the time to make one.

 

[Björke]

I disagree with Mialo when it comes to Hpal skillcap. While their kit is very forgiving, and they are the strongest class overall, imo, I think that a lot of people underestimate the potential of an hpal with someone skilled at the helm. Unlike every other healer in the bracket, they do oom. They lost a lot of their finesse with the removal of holy light, which hurt them pretty bad. If they're forced to spam FoL, they run out of mana pretty quick. It might be easy to spam denounce and spam FoL, and then bubble to safety when you get fucked, but playing an hpal properly requires better positioning then a druid or shaman and more mana attentiveness than any other healer. I have only seen a couple other current hpals who know how to play offensively without spamming derpnounce. And that's where the divide in hpal skill really is. The proper utilization of their entire toolkit. As someone who has mained hpal since the dawn of f2p, it's so easy to see and recognize the discrepancy in skilled and derp hpals.

What i love to do, especially in AB, is to jump alone in a grp of enemies and see how long i can survive. No dmg dealing, only healing my self and working with LoS. So much fun!

 

[rsq]

What i love to do, especially in AB, is to jump alone in a grp of enemies and see how long i can survive. No dmg dealing, only healing my self and working with LoS. So much fun!

If only the rest of us non-healing classes could be afforded that luxury. I don't understand... "survive" and "fun" in the same post....?

 

[Lawlpurge]

I'd say resto shaman, at least for healers, have the highest skill cap. When fighting in a group, there is NEVER a GCD that goes by where you can't be doing something. You have to constantly be keeping dots up on stealthers/healing/purging/interrupting/cleansing/maneuvering LOS, etc. A shaman that does nothing but heal is useless, and it takes a great deal of intuition to keep from wasting your cleanse on the wrong spells, or second guessing a caster when trying to interrupt. No other healing class at this level has as many tools as a rshaman, and a well played one can accomplish an incredible amount for the team.

 

[allahkazam]

I'd say resto shaman, at least for healers, have the highest skill cap. When fighting in a group, there is NEVER a GCD that goes by where you can't be doing something. You have to constantly be keeping dots up on stealthers/healing/purging/interrupting/cleansing/maneuvering LOS, etc. A shaman that does nothing but heal is useless, and it takes a great deal of intuition to keep from wasting your cleanse on the wrong spells, or second guessing a caster when trying to interrupt. No other healing class at this level has as many tools as a rshaman, and a well played one can accomplish an incredible amount for the team.

the not having a spare global many times is why i run with NG most of the time over shift. Shift is probably better, but quite a bit in the middle of a fight i don't have a spare global. i'm constantly healing someone or purging or shearing or moving. Not sure if it's the highest skill cap or not. I never oom and feel in a 1v1 against any class i'm not easily killed, especially if i can juke interrupts.

 

[Nakedplumber]

Lowest to highest skill cap

Warrior
Rogue
Paladin
Priest
Warlock
Mage
Hunter
Druid
Shaman

I decided to make the list cause people seem to have a hard time accepting their class isnt the "hardest". However, dont feel to bad since all classes have a relatively low skill cap at this level. The real difference between a good and a bad player lies more on the fact that someone takes the right or wrong decisions and how well they can position themselves during fights. (Which again depends on the class. The melee classes which are usually easier to play in this bracket due to the lack of abilities tend to need better positioning that the ranged ones to be played effectively) I was gonna write a longer wall of text, but people tend to give up after a few lines of reading on these forums, so b-bye.

 

[Zatox]

Lowest to highest skill cap

Warrior
Rogue
Warlock
Paladin
Priest
Mage
Hunter
Druid
Shaman

I decided to make the list cause people seem to have a hard time accepting their class isnt the "hardest". However, dont feel to bad since all classes have a relatively low skill cap at this level. The real difference between a good and a bad player lies more on the fact that someone takes the right or wrong decisions and how well they can position themselves during fights. (Which again depends on the class. The melee classes which are usually easier to play in this bracket due to the lack of abilities tend to need better positioning that the ranged ones to be played effectively) I was gonna write a longer wall of text, but people tend to give up after a few lines of reading on these forums, so b-bye.

Pretty solid list aside from Warlock, Druid, and Priest placements imo

 

[Nakedplumber]

Pretty solid list aside from Warlock, Druid, and Priest placements imo

Im not really familiar with warlocks and priests, so feel free to let me know whered youd put them. For druids tho Id keep them up there honestly

 

[Zatox]

Warrior
Rogue
Priest
Paladin
Druid
Warlock
Mage
Hunter
Shaman

 

[Björke]

If only the rest of us non-healing classes could be afforded that luxury. I don't understand... "survive" and "fun" in the same post....?

Poor you, missing sth. But I can see 2 healing classes in your signature though :>

 

[Lil]

Simply put, those who answered with specs in mind rather than just classes (especially for hybrid classes)

Was wondering why no1 else was doing this... ret is nowhere near as high as a skill cap as prot pal or enh has nowhere near as high of one as ele.. Seemed odd to me to group up classes and not specific specs but didn't say anything ^-^

 

[KainUFC]

Was wondering why no1 else was doing this... ret is nowhere near as high as a skill cap as prot pal or enh has nowhere near as high of one as ele.. Seemed odd to me to group up classes and not specific specs but didn't say anything ^-^

Dying to hear why prot has a higher skillcap than ret.

 

[Zatox]

Interesting. You can really see who understands the significance of the question this thread poses. Simply put, those who answered with specs in mind rather than just classes (especially for hybrid classes), congrats, you get it, and get a "like" from me. Those who threw up a list of classes and left it at that, I'm afraid it isn't that simple. Cheers

Of course it's not as simple as that, but to go into that much detail on a cell phone is more of a hassle then its worth. Maybe ill edit my post tonight if my internet is working. Comcast has been shitting out for the last 72 hours.