Growing and protecting and growing the 20-24 bracket

Swoops said:
Yeah, its not something you should spam or even need to macro. I just thought typing out a nice, informative message once in a macro would make things a bit easier. I ran into someone who had one (maybe Klinda?) and thought it was a very good idea. We don't need to start harassing/spamming people into reading TI, but positively informing them that it exists and they have options to make their games more fun can't be a bad thing.


Also,



FTFY. :)
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As of yet I have not promoted a specific informative macro but many of our players do have their own. My regular response to a complaint from a teammate about another player is "tell them". I go on to remind them we all start as noobs...give them a hand up or expect them to repeat the same mistakes. If you don't help make others around you better you are part of the problem.

Promoting a commercial website is prohibited but you can whisper a person. Take the time, it is worth it...and then down the line the example you set often is duplicated. You effort goes WAY further than you can ever know.

@ Gay

Sorry I missed waving at you when i saw you last. Multitasking has it's drawbacks. :(

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Crit said:
Yes really. Words are currency, be careful how you spend them. Hitler was human, so was all sorts of mass murderers. We are not all fundamentally the same. If you exaggerate then every point you try to make based on that failure to be legit are suspect. The truth is there are differences, don't kill the messenger. I play both sides for a reason...so I can see the differences. I am a Libra...that's how I roll. While you may be different than the general statement it does not diminish the truth that there are general differences. Even Blizzard knows the average age of customers and what that average is by all sorts of things including faction. Generally speaking the Horde is a little older, a little more mature. I have great experience on both factions but it does not do justice to the facts to pretend. It is not a perfect world...kind of like your face is not symmetrical. That being said this post is about bigger things than factions. It is about the things that can be done that shift the masses, not a few players rolling 20s in the face of what is already happening and the tidal wave behind it.

F2P need to understand that their accounts are not designed to be eternal. It is a trial and Blizzard is marketing them to become customers...not the other way around. I have no problem with them but will not change my game for them. We support them as fellow players but other than at some point playing down to an entire team of 20s we are going to do what twinks do, get the very best gear, learn our class and perfect our skills while seeking out fellow players that do the same to polish our skills against. 20s that are geared to the 9's are not going to play down to the 20s that are not. So, really why should 24s play down to them? Don't get me wrong, we will, but the concept won't be a winner to the masses. That is just not the world we live in...like it or not.
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jesus comparing him to hitler?
 
Crit said:
LOL @ balanced just because of level similarities. You see yourself and your Ally characters as equal despite your gear advantages. Almost victim mentality when you consider how OP the gear advantage really is F2P on F2P. It is definitely delusional and self servicing. The Allies have the following quest gear that has no corresponding Horde gear.
At 20 Allies can get the following BiS gear of which there is no Horde equivalent*:
  1. Riot Stick - Item - World of Warcraft
  2. Rifle Commander's Eyepatch - Item - World of Warcraft
  3. Shield of the Stockades - Item - World of Warcraft
At 21-24 Allies have this BiS gear of which there are no Horde equivalent*:
  1. Barechus' Greaves - Item - World of Warcraft
  2. Ashen Gloves - Item - World of Warcraft
  3. G-Team Belt - Item - World of Warcraft
  4. Aluwyn's Legguards - Item - World of Warcraft
If you are finding what you call "balanced matches" Horde F2P with such advantages you sir and those running with you can officially be called "baddies" and I almost never use that term. 24s roughing you up and your teams "feelings" is quite possibly karmic. Your delusional state simply can't see how if the shoe was on the other foot you would quite possibly have a different argument. I have characters and guilds...plural on both factions and PvP daily and have deliberately kept a 3rd account off my Bnet so I can be anonymous as I do my rounds. It allows me a more complete perspective.

I wish you well but you will get no respite from me when you foist such tripe upon my topic. I commend you for not being a troll, other than that get real.

P.S. the above list does not include gear that is BiS till you get the Charged Gears or satchel items. That too has Alliance advantages with things like*:
  1. Yorgen's Boon - Item - World of Warcraft
  2. Felbane Belt - Item - World of Warcraft
*list not limited to
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I made a hunter on Anub'Arak as an alli and converted to horde. She is better geared than Onecleanshot (my other hunter on Velen) from alli quest gear.
 
Ive played about 30 or more battlegrounds this week and FARMED every single one, 9-10 of those matches a trial told me "lets farm", "Don't cap" ,"omg finally we win!! kill them all!!" well, my 24s even stood back and let each one of them, get wrecking ball, ironman, even get the 5 returns achieve. Yes they had some 24s on alliance but they afked, then new 24s came in and they afked. But seriously horde trials don't get as much honor as alliance do cause 2-10 times they win and if they have 24s theres still a chance they can lose... which is ridiculous but its mainly cause of the human racial allowing them to stack 2 agms and still be able to escape stuns. Yeah i had a an alliance i should know my priest was lvl 20 and i feel like my 24 holy paladin is now as un-killable as him and he is a trail meaning that even tho im a lvl 24 horde my trial still almost equivalent to it with out decent dps on both sides it is a loss, i learned that the hard way. Yeah its true i ususally have atleast 1 hunter with me but if alliance stacks hunters well horde needs to have some way to defend itself. Anyways Failster i heard you might hit 50k honorable kills GL :D
 
Thepriesto said:
i feel like my 24 holy paladin is now as un-killable
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Dude you died. It was in a premade too. :/
Also, Why you dodge?
I missed my moms 5th wedding last night to get dodged
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I am generaly not one to complain, but.... Farming really serves no purpose except to just make the other side angry and to just perpeptuate farming on both sides. The solution is pretty simple. Just don't rez, walk away from the rezzer and eventually the farmers will give up.
The mindset of the farmer is a simple one"I farm them because they farm me". It sort of reminds me of religous wars that have lasted for centuries. Someone has got to stop. The question is who is going to be the better person and do it first?
 
Thepriesto said:
Ive played about 30 or more battlegrounds this week and FARMED every single one, 9-10 of those matches a trial told me "lets farm", "Don't cap" ,"omg finally we win!! kill them all!!" well, my 24s even stood back and let each one of them, get wrecking ball, ironman, even get the 5 returns achieve. Yes they had some 24s on alliance but they afked, then new 24s came in and they afked. But seriously horde trials don't get as much honor as alliance do cause 2-10 times they win and if they have 24s theres still a chance they can lose... which is ridiculous but its mainly cause of the human racial allowing them to stack 2 agms and still be able to escape stuns. Yeah i had a an alliance i should know my priest was lvl 20 and i feel like my 24 holy paladin is now as un-killable as him and he is a trail meaning that even tho im a lvl 24 horde my trial still almost equivalent to it with out decent dps on both sides it is a loss, i learned that the hard way. Yeah its true i ususally have atleast 1 hunter with me but if alliance stacks hunters well horde needs to have some way to defend itself. Anyways Failster i heard you might hit 50k honorable kills GL :D
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Ive read just a few of these posts because I'm not about to read 28 pages.. Farming is bad, 24s have an advantage, 24s who farm ruin the bracket.. this whole post seems to be stating the obvious (from what I have read). People roll 24s for an advantage. period. no doubt about that there's no other reason not to stop at 20 or just make a trial unless you want an advantage and 24s who farm continuously don't care about this bracket or other peoples opinions so this post isn't going to be changing the bracket at all except maybe making trials realize it more. In my experience and according to stats horde has more 24s yet ally seems to farm more on their 24s. Continue to roll horde 24s who farm please. gives me new names to be looking out for when you're in MY premade
 
Honeybadger likes duo for only 1 reason.i don't care for what he does. if you want to shut him up . You better start premading or join a guild to do so And if you do make a preamade go in a Premade that's viable not just cuase your lvl 24. Does he hurt the bracket? Of course he does but stop wining and do something about it. If your a horde this problem doesnt concern you that much or your in a good alliance guild but it's not as active thru out the week. Ouch..

You might need a /Sanctuary
 
Honey badger said:
Honeybadger likes duo for only 1 reason.i don't care for what he does. if you want to shut him up . You better start premading or join a guild to do so And if you do make a preamade go in a Premade that's viable not just cuase your lvl 24. Does he hurt the bracket? Of course he does but stop wining and do something about it. If your a horde this problem doesnt concern you that much or your in a good alliance guild but it's not as active thru out the week. Ouch..

You might need a /Sanctuary
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Cant premade him when he dodges
 
Lillhunter said:
................. 24s who farm continuously don't care about this bracket or other peoples opinions so this post isn't going to be changing the bracket at all except maybe making trials realize it more. In my experience and according to stats horde has more 24s yet ally seems to farm more on their 24s. Continue to roll horde 24s who farm please. gives me new names to be looking out for when you're in MY premade
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almost went all game without getting too close to the gy, but the draw was too much for you i guess.
i only /spit on gy farming trash.
hipocrite.
 
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