Upswag
Legend
I disagree with [MENTION=18826]Bop[/MENTION] that you can tell a good hunter easier now. I think the damage masked how effective a hunter was, sure, but you could always tell a good hunter a lot easier by seeing something like whether RoS was on auto, if they used their pet taunt to stay in combat from range or to get someone off a healer, if they waited to DE AFTER crippling proc'd or if they got proc'd on while DEing and shit like that.
Now you can just tell that hey, that guy is a good player cuz their positioning might be good but that's about it. No scatter, no silence all but removed the skilling ceiling of this class. Skill floor might have got a lot lower too obviously, but unlike MoP where the floor was close to the ceiling, this time we have the opposite with the ceiling damn close to the floor.
Anyway, here's my tier and it's pretty much the same as [MENTION=18826]Bop[/MENTION]
God Tier: Ret
T1: Combat, Fury, Feral, (I realize Ret is OP, but just from the BGs and arenas I've seen, it is the new hunter. The good Rets are Gods, the bad Rets are just overpowered), RSham, MW
T2: Arms, WW, Demo, Balance, Guardian, Holy
T3: Destro, Disc, HPal
T4: Sub, Assassination, Surv, MM, Frost, RDruid
T5: Enh, ProtP, ProtW, BM
T6: Ele, Arcane
Don't Play: Fire, SPriest
Reasons: God Tier is obvious led by the King of Draenor, Retribution Paladins. You heal better than 2 of the healer specs, you do damage like every other DPS spec, you got bubble, a dispel - what can't you do? The best Ret Paladins are going to make this class look even Godlier than it is. Have fun 2v1'ing a Ret around a pillar for 3 minutes til you go OOM, they go OOM and you luckily get a kill. On this tier
Feral is damn close to God Tier with the type of damage that Cata hunters had before. Your lack of heals, however, make Ret just that much better. That being said, Feral is clearly the lead here followed shortly by Combat and Fury which are the only two specs that can arguably solo a healer. RShams and MW's heal for days, have a kick and a CC respectively and just fare well right now. Most of the DPS here have a lot of it with something else (MS, CC or something).
Priests bring damage, heals but no CC and druids have heals and that's about it. Most of the DPS here do true DPS but bring nothing else to the table.
T5 are essentially utility. You're not the best at anything but you're solid at just about everything. Good players make these classes effective, great players
Now you can just tell that hey, that guy is a good player cuz their positioning might be good but that's about it. No scatter, no silence all but removed the skilling ceiling of this class. Skill floor might have got a lot lower too obviously, but unlike MoP where the floor was close to the ceiling, this time we have the opposite with the ceiling damn close to the floor.
Anyway, here's my tier and it's pretty much the same as [MENTION=18826]Bop[/MENTION]
God Tier: Ret
T1: Combat, Fury, Feral, (I realize Ret is OP, but just from the BGs and arenas I've seen, it is the new hunter. The good Rets are Gods, the bad Rets are just overpowered), RSham, MW
T2: Arms, WW, Demo, Balance, Guardian, Holy
T3: Destro, Disc, HPal
T4: Sub, Assassination, Surv, MM, Frost, RDruid
T5: Enh, ProtP, ProtW, BM
T6: Ele, Arcane
Don't Play: Fire, SPriest
Reasons: God Tier is obvious led by the King of Draenor, Retribution Paladins. You heal better than 2 of the healer specs, you do damage like every other DPS spec, you got bubble, a dispel - what can't you do? The best Ret Paladins are going to make this class look even Godlier than it is. Have fun 2v1'ing a Ret around a pillar for 3 minutes til you go OOM, they go OOM and you luckily get a kill. On this tier
Feral is damn close to God Tier with the type of damage that Cata hunters had before. Your lack of heals, however, make Ret just that much better. That being said, Feral is clearly the lead here followed shortly by Combat and Fury which are the only two specs that can arguably solo a healer. RShams and MW's heal for days, have a kick and a CC respectively and just fare well right now. Most of the DPS here have a lot of it with something else (MS, CC or something).
Priests bring damage, heals but no CC and druids have heals and that's about it. Most of the DPS here do true DPS but bring nothing else to the table.
T5 are essentially utility. You're not the best at anything but you're solid at just about everything. Good players make these classes effective, great players
I miss Smash - have not played the new one, any good? Marth v Marth in melee used to be the shit!
