US FIFTY - Classic Raiding done right - We need YOU!

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EDIT: Nvm. Guess that's what happens when you fall asleep ):
 
About gearing with myself, I have everything from dungeons. I just need Green dragonscale breastplate and leggings, which I have the mats for, a ring that I have the mats for(or eye of adaegus) and rocket boots xtreme lite which I have no mats for. Then 20 spell power gloves, spellthread, 18 spirit or vitality boots, vitality or 12 intellect shield, 30 int weapon. I felt a lot better about my healing in the second raid. I wasn't hardly on top, but some fights I was second and I was usually barely behind second. As always my timing was bad on lay hands. It's such a fidgety spell because even though it's instant cast the guy has died already or someone has just about topped the tank off by the time it lands. I really thought my healing did a lot better not having to spam flash, I can barely keep a tank up solo and I go oom so quickly doing it. The way it looks right now I should surpass galli stat wise, but my heals will still be a bit behind I think. Stupid op druids. But thats how it's looking to me, the pally glyphs are terrible, theres like one I might consider. Great job second raid even though almost all of my stuff was broken and I ran out of money.

On second thought, there are some cool pally glyphs I didn't see. Glyph of flash of light (10% bonus to my next healing spell after casting flash) and theres a glyph that makes holy shock refund 1% mana, so when I see them theyre mine.
 
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Edwaaardo said:
As much as I hate to admit it, and as much as I want to blame gear, pallies aren't looking swell. I can get more spellpower, I had cogspinner goggles of spirit on and not gnomish power goggles, but the spellpower scaling on pally heals is non existent if there is any. Al most all of my gear was broken and my shocks healed for about 100 less than they were previously. Also, my flashes are terribly expensive. I can get at the most twenty chained in combat, and I watched galli in his tank set spam regrowth, and he regened almost all of the mana used by the end of the cast with no spirit stacking. On the bright side, we were talking about a healer per tank and a raid healer, and I think a pally would dominate that role through holy radiance and beacon of light. Just bacon one tank and heal the other. Two people healed at the same time. It could allow me to be more mana efficient because I would have a little slack to shock and eternal flame, which don't use much mana(none for flame). And then melee takes a big aoe hit? No problem! Holy radiance. Done. The more that I think about it the more I think that pallies are just not meant to flash spam. I want to try essence of eranikus' shade in place of power of the high chief to just get more casts, and I really just want to try two solid healers and me on raid to see the effect. I don't want to reroll, but if my plan doesn't work then let's face it, pallies are just not cut out for it and I'll go ret or try to get the hang of priest (the reason I rolled pally was because I understand the class way more than the others). Finally I'm Bubbleblowin by the way, and it's a safe bet if you see someone somewhere named edwaaardo or edwaardo it's probably me. Good job guys tonight, long live fifty.
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Its just the galliw swag
 
Sorry I couldn't make it on today, had some issues irl that made me unable to log on.
Assuming Filix was assasination specced, what was his dps like in AQ10?

Edit: Seems like he's still specced sub from his armory. If anyone sees him, please let him know that assasination does about twice the dps of sub now thanks to the new poisons.
 
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Question - I want to get in on this but probably as a dwarf pally. chardev still shows relic with hit gem. I'm assuming if I lose the relic (which I will) I will be under cap significantly. Is there a more up to date chardev?
 
i really want to join this, but dont know if i want to faction change and transfer

i do have the black magic chanted weapon, and i guess if any of my dots ever hit, 300 haste would be good
 
Um to answer all these questions:

1. Zephinism, are absolutly certain about a dwarf pally, because at the moment their heals arnt amazing, ret requires a ton of hit, and also requires spellhit which scales even worser. Overall you would probably be better rolling something els, however it is up to you :) (PS If you wanna roll a meele DPS go rogue, Ranged DPS go Hunter, casters are still not viable but we do want another warlock and 1 mage, if you wanna go tank roll a warrior (currently we are deciding if Druids are viable tank, personaly I dont believe that they can take enough damage but we still have testing to do), lastly if you wanna roll a healer we need priests and we are now saying that resto druids are as required as priests.

2. Threesets. You are refering to a priest with the chanted weapon correct? If it is a priest then you do have a chance, however the state of spell hit is just mad. SPriests can reach 50% hit with spirit, and even with all that hit you only in 1 in every 2 spells or less. Its up to you, that chant is very valuable and could make your damage extremly viable (maybe 300-400 DPS). However I will say that in order to get all the hit a lot of effort is involed in gearing and chanting.

3. Galli. Yea we should find a resto Shammy, it is a huge buff that would help a lot, maybe enhance would go resto in bigger raids that just AQ10.
 
What exactly is the hit required for retribution? I need to know for the chardevs and if they only use a rotaion of crusader strike, judgement, new exorcism and templar's or div storm, they would only need the special attack cap which is the same as 1h, making them very viable. In cata you used old spell exo, holy wrath and consecration which were spells, but now they don't need to hit that cap with those spells gone, right? Shockadin dps looks nice, if you rolled dranei you could hit 32% hit with almost 400 intellect, and I know you need more than that but it could be done due to the fact that unlike the tooltip says it's not just 15% hit on shock, denounce, and judge, but all spells. I was messing around with shockadin in service entrance with my healing gear and flashlight instead of mindtap tali and was pulling 1000 dps single target with no glyphs, not even holy shock damage. Just saying testing might be in order. Kind of sucks we're talking about resto shammy, I was going to roll that at first and then switched to pally because of how secure I am with that class. Unfortunate. I wish I had daybreak(changed to next holy shock after holy radiance heals all in ten yards), Light of dawn, and divine light to use instead of flash. Pallies have been turned from a tank healing class in tbc to now end game raid heals to challenge holy priests, just not at fifty. I also noticed how much I lost my movement in 5.0.4, no more instant cast flashes just sucks. The kurinaxx fight was way different. We also lost our cooldowns completely, I had aura mastery(2% physical damage reduction, ehh) and divine favor. So Zeph, long story short it's bad. Any ability for prot paladins was wiped out with the removal of the gem slot. You could go jc 350 and get a 51 stam gem, now it's just a short road to one shot land. I thought ret was a solid choice, but I guess not. Also, what about Blackstorm leggings? 30 stamina, 16 agi and 10 hit, even though they are leather. I think galli should roll them over what he's currently using. There is a place for dodge in my mind, but it needs to be balanced. He could have 98% dodge, but if he gets hit that 2% of the time, he's gone. I would use them in any tank, but maybe the armor is more important than I realize.
 
Edwaaardo said:
What exactly is the hit required for retribution? I need to know for the chardevs and if they only use a rotaion of crusader strike, judgement, new exorcism and templar's or div storm, they would only need the special attack cap which is the same as 1h, making them very viable. In cata you used old spell exo, holy wrath and consecration which were spells, but now they don't need to hit that cap with those spells gone, right? Shockadin dps looks nice, if you rolled dranei you could hit 32% hit with almost 400 intellect, and I know you need more than that but it could be done due to the fact that unlike the tooltip says it's not just 15% hit on shock, denounce, and judge, but all spells. I was messing around with shockadin in service entrance with my healing gear and flashlight instead of mindtap tali and was pulling 1000 dps single target with no glyphs, not even holy shock damage. Just saying testing might be in order. Kind of sucks we're talking about resto shammy, I was going to roll that at first and then switched to pally because of how secure I am with that class. Unfortunate. I wish I had daybreak(changed to next holy shock after holy radiance heals all in ten yards), Light of dawn, and divine light to use instead of flash. Pallies have been turned from a tank healing class in tbc to now end game raid heals to challenge holy priests, just not at fifty. I also noticed how much I lost my movement in 5.0.4, no more instant cast flashes just sucks. The kurinaxx fight was way different. We also lost our cooldowns completely, I had aura mastery(2% physical damage reduction, ehh) and divine favor. So Zeph, long story short it's bad. Any ability for prot paladins was wiped out with the removal of the gem slot. You could go jc 350 and get a 51 stam gem, now it's just a short road to one shot land. I thought ret was a solid choice, but I guess not. Also, what about Blackstorm leggings? 30 stamina, 16 agi and 10 hit, even though they are leather. I think galli should roll them over what he's currently using. There is a place for dodge in my mind, but it needs to be balanced. He could have 98% dodge, but if he gets hit that 2% of the time, he's gone. I would use them in any tank, but maybe the armor is more important than I realize.
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i just dont want to relevel Eng/Alch which are both maxed and i have extra recipes for both that are useful
 
We're raiding now. Log on
 
If oncilla logs on, I have a feeling we'll get a full clear. We already have 3 healers and plenty of dps.
 
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Buru down. We skipped Rajaxx and we'll be going back to him later.

Buru is a much longer and more enjoyable fight with tweaked mechanics. Progression continues!

We're going to be streaming UBRS now: click me!
 
in BWL the adds are only hitting thirk for about 2.5k damage non-block. In a 40 man Raid, that's hardly any damage when Thirk is sitting at 13k health buffed up. And the first boss in BWL hasn't received a health buff. So that looks really promising :D
 
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What exactly is the hit required for retribution? I need to know for the chardevs and if they only use a rotaion of crusader strike, judgement, new exorcism and templar's or div storm, they would only need the special attack cap which is the same as 1h, making them very viable. In cata you used old spell exo, holy wrath and consecration which were spells, but now they don't need to hit that cap with those spells gone, right? Shockadin dps looks nice, if you rolled dranei you could hit 32% hit with almost 400 intellect, and I know you need more than that but it could be done due to the fact that unlike the tooltip says it's not just 15% hit on shock, denounce, and judge, but all spells. I was messing around with shockadin in service entrance with my healing gear and flashlight instead of mindtap tali and was pulling 1000 dps single target with no glyphs, not even holy shock damage. Just saying testing might be in order. Kind of sucks we're talking about resto shammy, I was going to roll that at first and then switched to pally because of how secure I am with that class. Unfortunate. I wish I had daybreak(changed to next holy shock after holy radiance heals all in ten yards), Light of dawn, and divine light to use instead of flash. Pallies have been turned from a tank healing class in tbc to now end game raid heals to challenge holy priests, just not at fifty. I also noticed how much I lost my movement in 5.0.4, no more instant cast flashes just sucks. The kurinaxx fight was way different. We also lost our cooldowns completely, I had aura mastery(2% physical damage reduction, ehh) and divine favor. So Zeph, long story short it's bad. Any ability for prot paladins was wiped out with the removal of the gem slot. You could go jc 350 and get a 51 stam gem, now it's just a short road to one shot land. I thought ret was a solid choice, but I guess not. Also, what about Blackstorm leggings? 30 stamina, 16 agi and 10 hit, even though they are leather. I think galli should roll them over what he's currently using. There is a place for dodge in my mind, but it needs to be balanced. He could have 98% dodge, but if he gets hit that 2% of the time, he's gone. I would use them in any tank, but maybe the armor is more important than I realize.
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Ouch! My eyes!
 
Yea Edwaaardo wins the award of longest Fifty thread post. But seriously if you are serious about joining then please add my real id Oldarcos@hotmail.com and I can tell you more about what we need raid times etc etc...
 
Great work today everyone. We got Buru down fairly easily with a non perfect group. So far we are handling the damage buffs. Pretty much everything has been said already. Looks like teh damage is teh same in all vanila raids and the only thing that will change in the instances is teh difficulty and people required.

We are looking to recruit heaps of people at the moment. If you are board of WoW atm then please level a guy to Fifty and attent one of our raids it is realy fun. With our progression through AQ10 we will be needing heaps for MC40 and would be great to have 20-30 people ready for MC progression once we reach it :)
 
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