F2P Rankings: Achievements, HKs, and more!

So achievements attainable by DK's are still legit, or will there be a separate list based purely for attainable 20 achievements/ignoring dk attainable. Forgive me for hum bugging but it was more fun the old way. On another note I don't mind seeing how many points are possible if lil and others try but I'd like to see a board for the old skoolers.

However, (don't worry I'm nearly done) should thank you Lofi for taking the time in re-starting this (achievements and pvp boards etc) as well as your work during Cata, it was worth dying too many times trying to explore the world for climbing 2 places up the leader board!
 
So achievements attainable by DK's are still legit, or will there be a separate list based purely for attainable 20 achievements/ignoring dk attainable. Forgive me for hum bugging but it was more fun the old way. On another note I don't mind seeing how many points are possible if lil and others try but I'd like to see a board for the old skoolers.

Like it or not DK achievements should be included.. If we don't include them then I ask for the hallowed title and achievements not to be listed since they are GF'd and were gained via bug so shouldn't be there. If you start nitpicking which achievements should be shown or not then things are just gonna get tough for lofi. Either you knew about the DK achievements and decided not to make one (your own choice) or you didn't know and missed a GFd achievement (just like the others).

Also for the max achievements:
Total Still Obtainable- 3520 Points
Total P2P Needed- 1155 Points
Total DK GF'd- 625 Points
Total Questionable Tough DK GF'd- 280 Points
Total Extremely Tough P2P Needed- 95 Points
Total DK GF'd P2P Needed- 70 Points
Total Extremely Tough- 60 Points
Total Tough DK GF'd- 35 Points
Total GF'd- 30 Points
Total Questionable DK GF'd- 10 Points
Total Achievements Possible - 5880
is the magic number I came up with.
 
The guy on the top of the US top 100 for killing has 300 KBs.... I have 34,000 some, TWO ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE MORE but I an 36th?.... I think you need to ditch the ratio approach, I could make a guy today and make sure I never die and top the chart? No way, that's not a rank, that's a joke.

This is silly, I shouldn't be punished being a killer and not a healer in in the killing chart. I shouldn't be punished for never /AFKing or pussing out and fighting to the death, I wanted my stats to be real.

It has to be HK/s and or KB/s and nothing else. At least if you want to have a kill chart.

As for achieves I don't care so much but I chose not to make a DK when I could because I had a payed before and want to do pure F2P pvp.There is no point in ranking F2Ps with payed features. This is supposed to be the lvl 20 section. Bugs are legit IMO only if you can exploit at 20.

Tom
 
Like it or not DK achievements should be included.. If we don't include them then I ask for the hallowed title and achievements not to be listed since they are GF'd and were gained via bug so shouldn't be there. If you start nitpicking which achievements should be shown or not then things are just gonna get tough for lofi. Either you knew about the DK achievements and decided not to make one (your own choice) or you didn't know and missed a GFd achievement (just like the others).

Also for the max achievements: is the magic number I came up with.

Wowwee thats alot of achievement points possible. I don't mean to fuss over DK's, you could say I'm a bit of a hypocrit because I did use the DK bug (and still can) and went and got the Jenkins title...but stopped after that. Takes alot of effort just to get one through the start zone - I like it where there is no real time constraint or requires massive amount of time planning because there are other achievements I can work toward on my 20. Nevertheless, good luck lil. (Beat that Russian/horde troll druid)!
 
Wowwee thats alot of achievement points possible. I don't mean to fuss over DK's, you could say I'm a bit of a hypocrit because I did use the DK bug (and still can) and went and got the Jenkins title...but stopped after that. Takes alot of effort just to get one through the start zone - I like it where there is no real time constraint or requires massive amount of time planning because there are other achievements I can work toward on my 20. Nevertheless, good luck lil. (Beat that Russian/horde troll druid)!

If you or anyone else wants you could simply take out the DK needed acheivements as I labeled them all according to how you earn them. I feel you kind of made my point when you said it takes alot of effort just to get past the start. You have around 3k so you would know how much effort it takes just to get each achievement around 2.5k+ It becomes a grind and a "hey will you help me with a quick achievement rq" contest for every 10 points. It is simply that next level of F2P which does take some effort (most of the stuff we can do at level 20 doesn't really).


I was sitting around 3.5k when I used the DK bug because I was simply bored. PvP was bad and achievements were getting less and less obtainable then I found out there are another 1k achievement points I could get so I jumped on the fact. I still believe I am a pure F2P as I never payed once. Any F2P could/can enter ICC so I'm not special. Any F2P could make a DK so I'm not special. There maybe people who's done far more stuff with DKs or with ICC then me they just aren't as high up on the list as I am so I am speaking for them.


If the DK achievements are taken out or we have our own list (even though the top 15+ people will probably have it anyways) then I feel people will start complaining about ICC next (yay another thing I did that I'll have to defend :/ ) then after that who knows what. It's an on going effect and every like 5 pages there is a new problem being brought up that lofi has to try and fix.


If you don't want to see the top people flooded with the DK achievements the first thing you need to look at is the level 50 achievement and if they earned it close and check a new person to see who #1 non DK is.. I don't feel personally (even if I didn't use the bug [I still have PLENTY more acheivements that I need to get that I just don't want to] I would still say this) that DK buggers should be taken out or have their own list.


However maybe lofi you could just add a mark or something near their name in the achievement list saying they made a DK?
 
DKs defenitly taked a little of F2P pureness but its still good for ppl like me who get to 3k+ achievs and the next achievs are super hard to get and u need to be boosted, its good that DK showed up.

Im dont like to hunt achievs but i find inevitable cuz waiting for bgs or when bgs are full of 24s, what will i do? duel in goldshire xD, no ty.
 
I love the new list lofi :) The swiftness recipe seems kind of odd for an acheivement list and since like every person with alch has it it seems kind of repetitive. I would think that should go into your pve ranking. HOPEFULLY the little DK will make everyone happy as they can quickly skip the people that used the bug if they don't like it or whatever. Not sure if you plan on splitting it up into a US and EU one or keeping it together.

Ty for re-adding a achievement list and making it so hopefully everyone is happy. Maybe you can make a linked f2p character only achievement list once/if it gets fixed if there was enough people who were linked to have their own list
 
I love the new list lofi :) The swiftness recipe seems kind of odd for an acheivement list and since like every person with alch has it it seems kind of repetitive. I would think that should go into your pve ranking. HOPEFULLY the little DK will make everyone happy as they can quickly skip the people that used the bug if they don't like it or whatever. Not sure if you plan on splitting it up into a US and EU one or keeping it together.

Ty for re-adding a achievement list and making it so hopefully everyone is happy. Maybe you can make a linked f2p character only achievement list once/if it gets fixed if there was enough people who were linked to have their own list
Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to leave the PvE lists as US+EU combined and the PvP lists separated. I am also not going to separate those who made DKs, but the icon will help distinguish those who didn't. If the character only achieves start working again then I can include linked F2Ps that display only character achievements too.

Note to everyone:
The "Pure F2P" is for non-linked F2Ps only. This is enforced by checking level achievement (must be 20 - or 50 in case of DK) and check for FoS (all must be obtainable by F2P). I may add more checks in the future, but for now this seems sufficient. If your F2P is linked with a P2P you cannot be listed in the "pure F2P" rankings! I plan to soon add another PvE rankings list that is based solely character stats and will include linked F2Ps as well.

I have also updated the K/D rankings to be weighted much more heavily towards KBs than HKs. This was done so that KBs and HKs each contribute equally to K/D score (on average).
 
Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to leave the PvE lists as US+EU combined and the PvP lists separated. I am also not going to separate those who made DKs, but the icon will help distinguish those who didn't. If the character only achieves start working again then I can include linked F2Ps that display only character achievements too.

Note to everyone:
The "Pure F2P" is for non-linked F2Ps only. This is enforced by checking level achievement (must be 20 - or 50 in case of DK) and check for FoS (all must be obtainable by F2P). I may add more checks in the future, but for now this seems sufficient. If your F2P is linked with a P2P you cannot be listed in the "pure F2P" rankings! I plan to soon add another PvE rankings list that is based solely character stats and will include linked F2Ps as well.

I have also updated the K/D rankings to be weighted much more heavily towards KBs than HKs. This was done so that KBs and HKs each contribute equally to K/D score (on average).

i'm a pure F2P!!!
 
Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to leave the PvE lists as US+EU combined and the PvP lists separated. I am also not going to separate those who made DKs, but the icon will help distinguish those who didn't. If the character only achieves start working again then I can include linked F2Ps that display only character achievements too.

Note to everyone:
The "Pure F2P" is for non-linked F2Ps only. This is enforced by checking level achievement (must be 20 - or 50 in case of DK) and check for FoS (all must be obtainable by F2P). I may add more checks in the future, but for now this seems sufficient. If your F2P is linked with a P2P you cannot be listed in the "pure F2P" rankings! I plan to soon add another PvE rankings list that is based solely character stats and will include linked F2Ps as well.

I have also updated the K/D rankings to be weighted much more heavily towards KBs than HKs. This was done so that KBs and HKs each contribute equally to K/D score (on average).

another checking achivment is the bank slot one.
 
an i get added here ?
Look and see for yourself and if you aren't just follow
How can I add characters to the list?
Please send me a PM with the wow armory URL(s) to add. Don't worry about sending duplicate or removed characters, as it will not affect the final listing.

I have got a question , when will change the achievements points because i get every day new achievements !??
Whenever lofi feels like it. It is normally every week or 2 weeks and updating everyday would just be over the top
 

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