DPS comparison between the most popular / common 2H TW weapons as an 11 Warrior (2nd attempt)

I originally did this test and posted my results late last week but as @Autofail pointed out there was a major error.
Whirlwind has an 8 yard radius. Lifesteal however is only a 5 yard radius. So while Whirlwind might be hitting all of the AOE target dummies, 1 pixel the wrong way and Lifesteal will not reach.
Which totally explains why some of the 2h weapons procced lifesteal significantly less than other 2h'ers.

I havent moved my toon since I started this 2nd round of testing. There were attempts where I realized battleshout had expired, or I was testing with some random totem buff nearby and had to scrap those results and do it over.

@Katmandu pointed out theres a group of 4 target dummies right on top of each other in Boralus @ 63.9 23.10 which are the dummies I used.

I ran the tests will all gear except the weapons taken off, and then did them again with all of my gear equipped.
I did not re-gem or re-enchant to min max stats because I do not have a million gold.
The AH has caught on to our ways. The lifestealing enchant was 700G on my server when I made this toon a couple weeks ago. Its 1800G now.
Each test run was for 5 minutes. Does anything we fight take 5 minutes? No. But I figured 5 minutes takes RNG out of the equation.
You'll notice my ILVL is pretty low. I pretty much only use TW gear if its a slot I cant find sockets for at a lower level.

Surprisingly when geared they all finished within roughly 10% of each other.
And when running M+25 or going for cutting edge achievements 10% is a big deal, but for us at lvl 11 in TW it means even with the worst of these weapons we are still going to melt face.
Also please dont fret if your DPS add on when you are running dungeons shows significantly lower than these results. This was 5 minutes standing still hitting something that doesnt die. When were running zones we pretty much tag stuff and run, Ill generally finish a dungeon around 200-220 DPS, not near 600 like these results.

Here is my armory https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/cenarius/eleven/

After the initial post with the results there will be 8 additional posts showing:
DPS fully geared
DPS weapon only
Breakdown of DPS fully geared
Breakdown of DPS weapon only
Stats fully geared
Stats weapon only

Weapons I tested - All ILVL 60 unless otherwise noted
Colossal Skull-Clad Cleaver x 2
Pendulum of Doom x 2 (ILVL54)
Hellscream's Decapitator x 2 (ILVL20) +3 STR gems x 4
Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 & Hammer of the Grand Crusader x 1
Hammer of the Grand Crusader x 2
Waveslicer x 2
Smite's Mighty Hammer x 2
Rockslicer x 2
Hatebringer x 2 (ILVL30) +3 STR gems x 6
Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 & Sul'thraze the Lasher x 1

And the results........

When Geared
1. Hammer of the Grand Crusader x 2 = 588 DPS
2. Waveslicer x 2 = 576 DPS
2. Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 & Sul'thraze the Lasher x 1 = 576 DPS
4. Hatebringer x 2 = 563
5. Colossal Skull-Clad Cleaver x 2 = 561 DPS
6. Rockslicer x 2 = 556 DPS
7. Pendulum of Doom x 2 = 555 DPS
8. Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 & Hammer of the Grand Crusader x 1 = 553 DPS
9. Smite's Mighty Hammer x 2 = 544 DPS
10. Hellscream's Decapitator x 2 = 526 DPS

With only weapon equipped
1. Waveslicer x 2 = 291 DPS
2. Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 & Hammer of the Grand Crusader x 1 = 280 DPS
3. Hammer of the Grand Crusader x 2 = 277 DPS
4. Colossal Skull-Clad Cleaver x 2 = 273 DPS
5. Pendulum of Doom x 2 = 271 DPS
6. Hatebringer x 2 = 269 DPS
7. Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 & Sul'thraze the Lasher x 1 = 268 DPS
8. Smite's Mighty Hammer x 2 = 258 DPS
9. Rockslicer x 2 = 256 DPS
10. Hellscream's Decapitator x 2 = 251 DPS
would it be viable to run waveslicer and grand master since i only have one grand master? or should i just do 2 waveslicers instead?
 
would it be viable to run waveslicer and grand master since i only have one grand master? or should i just do 2 waveslicers instead?
Keep in mind all of these weapon combos are going to perform differently based off all of your other stats.
So what was best for me and my set up may not be best for yours.
Go to Boralus and use the 4 training dummies at 63.9 23.10
Equip whatever gear you use when running dungeons, and spend a few minutes just doing whirlwind, dont use bloodthirst, dont use execute, dont use any of your "on use" trinket abilities. You want this to be about the weapon as much as you can make it just about the weapons.
Once youve done it with 1 set of weapons then equip the other option and do the exact same thing.
I would use whatever comes out ahead for you and the rest of your gear.
 
Keep in mind all of these weapon combos are going to perform differently based off all of your other stats.
So what was best for me and my set up may not be best for yours.
Go to Boralus and use the 4 training dummies at 63.9 23.10
Equip whatever gear you use when running dungeons, and spend a few minutes just doing whirlwind, dont use bloodthirst, dont use execute, dont use any of your "on use" trinket abilities. You want this to be about the weapon as much as you can make it just about the weapons.
Once youve done it with 1 set of weapons then equip the other option and do the exact same thing.
I would use whatever comes out ahead for you and the rest of your gear.
thank you so much!!!
 
Anyone else finding weapon drops to be extremely rare this week? Ive gotten 1 on like 80 runs.
It'ss really hard to say because you need a lot of data to draw such conclusions, more than you'll get from just your own runs.

So typically a TW boss will drop 1-2 items across 5 party members. In personal loot, if you only have 2-4 people there, you get less total loot it seems.

So there's RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG.. Does your warrior get a drop? That drop could be one of 2-6 items typically. If you assume 5 and they're equally weighted and the personal loot chance is 25%, you're at 5% chance of a drop and you can easily go many, many attempts without getting something if it's 95% likely, as any mount collector will tell you.

You also need a lot of data points (hundreds if not thousands) to say with any confidence that the drop rate is other than 20% for that particular item.
 
Adding several more weapons this evening had to buy lifesteal x 12.................
Also Ive kept all my previous gear so even though Ive upgraded a few things I made sure to keep exactly what was used in the other tests to its apples to apples.
Also just like in the other tests the screenshots are of once the meters stopped.
I know screenshotting right at the 5 minute mark as I was stll DPSing would have given higher results, BUT, Id have had to retest every single weapon.

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I originally did this test and posted my results late last week but as @Autofail pointed out there was a major error.
Whirlwind has an 8 yard radius. Lifesteal however is only a 5 yard radius. So while Whirlwind might be hitting all of the AOE target dummies, 1 pixel the wrong way and Lifesteal will not reach.
Which totally explains why some of the 2h weapons procced lifesteal significantly less than other 2h'ers.

I havent moved my toon since I started this 2nd round of testing. There were attempts where I realized battleshout had expired, or I was testing with some random totem buff nearby and had to scrap those results and do it over.

@Katmandu pointed out theres a group of 4 target dummies right on top of each other in Boralus @ 63.9 23.10 which are the dummies I used.

I ran the tests will all gear except the weapons taken off, and then did them again with all of my gear equipped.
I did not re-gem or re-enchant to min max stats because I do not have a million gold.
The AH has caught on to our ways. The lifestealing enchant was 700G on my server when I made this toon a couple weeks ago. Its 1800G now.
Each test run was for 5 minutes. Does anything we fight take 5 minutes? No. But I figured 5 minutes takes RNG out of the equation.
You'll notice my ILVL is pretty low. I pretty much only use TW gear if its a slot I cant find sockets for at a lower level.

Surprisingly when geared they all finished within roughly 10% of each other.
And when running M+25 or going for cutting edge achievements 10% is a big deal, but for us at lvl 11 in TW it means even with the worst of these weapons we are still going to melt face.
Also please dont fret if your DPS add on when you are running dungeons shows significantly lower than these results. This was 5 minutes standing still hitting something that doesnt die. When were running zones we pretty much tag stuff and run, Ill generally finish a dungeon around 200-220 DPS, not near 600 like these results.

Here is my armory https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/cenarius/eleven/
I feel the need to add whats probably in my armory link is not what the weapons were tested in, IVe saved the gear so its the same every test, but what I'm logged out in is probably upgrades Ive gotten in the past couple months.

After the initial post with the results there will be 8 additional posts showing:
DPS fully geared
DPS weapon only
Breakdown of DPS fully geared
Breakdown of DPS weapon only
Stats fully geared
Stats weapon only

Weapons I tested - All ILVL 60 unless otherwise noted
Colossal Skull-Clad Cleaver x 2
Pendulum of Doom x 2 (ILVL54)
Hellscream's Decapitator x 2 (ILVL20) +3 STR gems x 4
Hammer of the Grand Crusader x 2
Waveslicer x 2
Smite's Mighty Hammer x 2
Rockslicer x 2
Hatebringer x 2 (ILVL30) +3 STR gems x 6
Hammer of the Soulbinder x 2
Chakram-Breaker Greatsword x 2
Nhallish's Bloody Polearm x 2
Overseer's Final Word x 2
Taskmaster Axe x 2
Sul'thraze the Lasher x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1
Hammer of the Grand Crusader x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1
Endbringer x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1
Scepter of Sha'tar x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1
Thundercleaver Axe x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1
Gravetouch Greatsword x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1
Demonshear x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1

And the results........

When Geared
1. Scepter of Sha'tar x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 = 597 DPS
2. Gravetouch Greatsword x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 = 590 DPS
3. Hammer of the Grand Crusader x 2 = 588 DPS
4. Overseer's Final Word x 2 = 584 DPS
5. Hammer of the Soulbinder x 2 - 578 DPS
6. Waveslicer x 2 = 576 DPS
6. Sul'thraze the Lasher x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1= 576 DPS
8. Thundercleaver Axe x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 = 575 DPS
9. Endbringer x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 = 574 DPS
10. Demonshear x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 = 571 DPS
11. Chakram-Breaker Greatsword x 2 = 567 DPS
12. Hatebringer x 2 = 563 DPS
13. Colossal Skull-Clad Cleaver x 2 = 561 DPS
14. Rockslicer x 2 = 556 DPS
15. Pendulum of Doom x 2 = 555 DPS
16. Nhallish's Bloody Polearm x 2 = 554 DPS
17. Hammer of the Grand Crusader x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 = 553 DPS
18. Taskmaster Axe x 2 = 548 DPS
19. Smite's Mighty Hammer x 2 = 544 DPS
20. Hellscream's Decapitator x 2 = 526 DPS

With only weapon equipped
1. Waveslicer x 2 = 291 DPS
2. Scepter of Sha'tar x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 = 289 DPS
3. Gravetouch Greatsword x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 = 285 DPS
4. Hammer of the Grand Crusader x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 = 280 DPS
5. Overseer's Final Word x 2 = 279 DPS
5. Endbringer x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 = 279 DPS
7. Hammer of the Grand Crusader x 2 = 277 DPS
7. Thundercleaver Axe x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 = 277 DPS
7. Demonshear x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 = 277 DPS
10. Colossal Skull-Clad Cleaver x 2 = 273 DPS
11. Pendulum of Doom x 2 = 271 DPS
12. Hatebringer x 2 = 269 DPS
13. Sul'thraze the Lasher x 1 & Runeblade of Baron Rivendare x 1 = 268 DPS
14. Chakram-Breaker Greatsword x 2 = 267 DPS
14. Nhallish's Bloody Polearm x 2 = 267 DPS
16. Taskmaster Axe x 2 = 265 DPS
17. Hammer of the Soulbinder x 2 = 264 DPS
18. Smite's Mighty Hammer x 2 = 258 DPS
19. Rockslicer x 2 = 256 DPS
20. Hellscream's Decapitator x 2 = 251 DPS
hey so i tested out the trinket from court of stars... its topping my dmg meter for a whole boss fight. my rotation is (trinket) bloodthirst whirlwind whirlwind bloodthirst repeat
currently finishing boss fights at about 500dmg single target
 

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