BLACK MAGIC for horde rogue! OP OP OP!

[Hurpdurp]

Oh Glancealot, you're still a fucking idiot with your head rammed up your arse whilst you cover it in the verbal diarrhea you seem to come up with constantly. The vast majority of the 49 community disagrees with you. Your "proof" that it procs often is someone saying "It procs often". Thats like me calling you clever, it just doesn't work out.



I would actually do some maths to back myself up but frankly I'd rather just PvP with my 4 years experience in the bracket behind me instead of playing the World of Math-craft with a armory whoring egoistical twat like you.

 

[Falkor]

you don't know game mechanics. do homework before post next time.

have fun with barely more poison procs and slightly increased white attacks. mr "ill hemo more for more spell push back1!"

what you think tho is usually wrong...

go test it, or send lackys to test it, and see if crippling procs it. ill bet you it doesnt it.

a lot.

proof?

as if you know the shaman class, dude, wake up, you don't know any class and you are bad at this game. we have already established this in the 70-79 section.

b/c that matters at all? valid point is still valid that this would benefit a shaman more since they can proc it more often as well as benefit from lowering the spell gcd on top of the white damage boost (also faster attack = more ft hits or higher chance to proc frostbrand which = ur poison damage if not more). and better chance to proc wf on the mh.

you mentioned that it's equivalent to ~68haste earlier, now its 86...do you just pull numbers outa your @ss? plus, how did you get 68/86 to begin with?

its equivalent to 68 haste according to a poster on wowhead so not pulled out of my ass. jeeze such a stretch to reverse two numbers srry im lysdexic, ssa.







iit: you got sticky jeans over the prospect of haste (and acted like you were the 1st person to discover this gameeeebreaking enchant) and now cant back down even though almost everyone has posted against you. keep on triple posting out of your sheer joy for never possessing this enchant.



im actually glad your back to the ad hominem attacks, i was beginning to miss your style old chap. btw did you xfer to ruin yet or do you still sit on your dead bg and think how awesome it was in the old days - not that your bg was ever good to begin with.

 

[tweedledum]

srry im lysdexic, ssa.







iit: you got sticky jeans over the prospect of haste (and acted like you were the 1st person to discover this gameeeebreaking enchant) and now cant back down even though almost everyone has posted against you. keep on triple posting out of your sheer joy for never possessing this enchant.



im actually glad your back to the ad hominem attacks, i was beginning to miss your style old chap. btw did you xfer to ruin yet or do you still sit on your dead bg and think how awesome it was in the old days - not that your bg was ever good to begin with.

yes, this is the TI-49 forums I know and love!

 

[elocon]

Remember BM is not PPM, its a % chance to proc and 35 sec internal cd.

According to wowhead its 35% chance to proc (Black Magic).

I do think it have more like 50% or 45%.

If both weapons have 50% chance to proc poison and BM have 35% chance to proc, then every melee attack got 17,5% proc chance (while off the internal cd).

PLEASE PEOPLE POST FACTS AND NOT JUST OPINIONS (BOTH TROLLS AND OTHERS)

 

[Taitaih]

I'm still trying to figure out how this would be OP and/or gamebreaking for PvP. Does it make rogues kill anything that they were underpowered against before?

 

[Hurpdurp]

It has to be overpowered because Glancealot's nose is rather brown from his own faeces and he has higher flag cap percentages than us.

 

[Falkor]

Remember BM is not PPM, its a % chance to proc and 35 sec internal cd.

According to wowhead its 35% chance to proc (Black Magic).

I do think it have more like 50% or 45%.

If both weapons have 50% chance to proc poison and BM have 35% chance to proc, then every melee attack got 17,5% proc chance (while off the internal cd).

PLEASE PEOPLE POST FACTS AND NOT JUST OPINIONS (BOTH TROLLS AND OTHERS)

54% chance to proc wound poison per hit @ 1.5 speed. crippling wont (prove me wrong) proc it. even if every melee attack had 17.5% to proc it wouldnt mean anything...that still could mean a long string of no procs, or back to back procs. no promises.



more wowhead findings:



PPM? 1 to 2? This I am not sure about since I haven't had time to raid with it yet and data mine myself. Will post again when I do.



---EDIT---



On my guild's last Marrowgar kill, I got the buff 11 times within 6:47 averaging 37 seconds between procs. Simplifying it and using bad assumptions: ~1 PPM.



I tried calculating a real PPM, but since it is a spell and Enhancement Shaman mix around hits and spells for procs it became too much of a headache.



Two casters with the enchant in the raid had the same amount of procs as myself. I'm sure if the math was done it would be closer to 2 PPM (logically figuring nearly a 7 min fight and seeing 11 procs) or 27% uptime.

&

This enchant is a 35% chance on every harmful spell hit, so its uptime should be pretty close to the duration / ICD value of 10/35 = 28.57% assuming you hit with a reasonably steady flow of harmful spells.



so roughly 27-29% uptime.

 

[Lepidosteus]

It should be painfully obvious to even the most dull-witted keyboard turner why having a slight chance on your offhand weapon to increase your auto attack speed in PvP is subpar to any other option.



Get over your moronic obsessions already.

 

[Rangèr]

Get Berz on it and stfu

 

[Mortox]

Lets see what triple post spree Clickalot comes up with next !!!

 

[glancealot]

Get Berz on it and stfu

berzerking doesn't proc nearly as often on offhand.



so ya

 

[Falkor]

and yet i would so much rather have 400 ap

 

[Taitaih]

IMO Slice and Dice is the best finisher for Rogues because it increases your white damage in PvP.



/discuss



/endsarcasm

 

[Hurpdurp]

What do you know taitaih noob?!?! Stuff about flag caps and your role in wsg followed by screenshot that actually looks pretty crap!11!!eleven!!11

 

[Alkaholic]

I finally killed u, Taitaih u son of a b****, Ambush finally works in my favor. 1% kill chance = I win!!!



BTW, Glance is a clicking baddie...

 

[Tetrica]

Gg Alka!

 

[Taitaih]

I finally killed u, Taitaih u son of a b****, Ambush finally works in my favor. 1% kill chance = I win!!!



BTW, Glance is a clicking baddie...

You should've been there last night, I was totally drunk and running around with my 406 shadow damage glass cannon spec.

 

[Tetrica]

406? That's pretty badass.

 

[Alkaholic]

You should've been there last night, I was totally drunk and running around with my 406 shadow damage glass cannon spec.

Damn it, missed my chance...

 

[Tetrica]

Alkaholic, I have a tactic for you... Stay more than 45 yards away from Taitaih at any time.