lindenkron
OG
Can anyone calculate GS/Fiery vs. BaR/Crux with a 75% crusader uptime?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Best 2h proved: BAR > GS
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lindenkron said:
for a ret yes? Also, if you're going to give sader triple its PPM i'll assume the same for fiery and GS proc
GS: (21+ap/14)*crit + (0.2*ap*crit*1.09+ 0.022*ap)/10 + 0.022*ap*MWS + MWS*PPMfiery*3*fieryprocdmg*(spellcrit/2)/60 + MWS*PPMGS*3*GSprocdmg*(spellcrit/2)/60
= 121.1214 dps.
BAR: (20+ap/14)*crit + (0.2*ap*crit*1.09+ 0.022*ap)/10 + 0.022*ap*MWS - for this i'll assume that the paladin has 75strength due to crusader, thus 172 extra ap.
=120.2215 dps
GS still has a slight edge on sustainable damage, and i would wager that it still does on burst as well, though i cba to work it out. BAR has healed you for 300 by this point, or 25hp/5sec, and BAR has 10 extra stamina.
lindenkron
OG
Kore nametooshort said:
No, not for ret. For warrior mate
. I don't jave 75% crusader uptime on a ret, lol Edit: Okay, I have ONE time had 100% uptime through out a duel, but it's not really reliable.
lindenkron said:No, not for ret. For warrior mate
Edit: Okay, I have ONE time had 100% uptime through out a duel, but it's not really reliable.
meh, cba to work out warrior. they have a much more intricate rotation. Cant you just extrapolate what you've got here?
Edit: either that, or tell me what rotation you want. It wont really be too hard since i wont have to work out the effectve PPm if you're assuming 75% uptime.
Edit2: Same applies to burst too, if you want me to have a bash at burst then tell me what combo you want me to use, i dont really play my warrior enough to second guess you
Conrose
OG
lindenkron said:No, not for ret. For warrior mate
Edit: Okay, I have ONE time had 100% uptime through out a duel, but it's not really reliable.
Send your victim my sincerest condolences. Is there a charity for victims of "I Dueled a 19 Warrior with 100% Crux Uptime"?
I remember there was a charity for "Stranglethorn Victims of Rogues", but I hear the donation box had its lock picked and cleaned out quite frequently.
Tsunik
OG
People has been argueing about crusader being too random, so i was thinking 30+ SP for a static dmg enchant. I mean Seal of Righteousness scales better with SP than AP.
Also lately i have been wondering, if 15+ sp (on wrists) and 16+ sp (on gloves) enchants would be viable on a ret paladin. You wanna keep your ~20% crit chance and 10 hit, so it wouldn't make sense to max SP.
The important question here is, does the extra dmg for the seal make up for the dmg lost on your melee swing?
Also lately i have been wondering, if 15+ sp (on wrists) and 16+ sp (on gloves) enchants would be viable on a ret paladin. You wanna keep your ~20% crit chance and 10 hit, so it wouldn't make sense to max SP.
The important question here is, does the extra dmg for the seal make up for the dmg lost on your melee swing?
If you dont like the randomness of sader then i'd suggest using fiery weapon instead of sader. I doubt 30 sp can produce as much damage as either fiery or 15strength. sp on gloves and bracers might be viable as a "ret" if you want to offheal or selfheal, but it is a dps loss and shouldnt be looked at from a dps PoV, but for utility it has its merits.
Conrose
OG
Tsunik said:
While Seal of Righteousness scales better with SP than AP, there exists the problem that white attacks don't, and when you are talking about 2H weapons and considering white hits as a tremendous portion of your white damage, I believe ultimately AP scales better than SP for overall damage.
lindenkron
OG
Eliot said:Those are my favorite duels.
The only time I ever beat a shaman... It doesn't take a lot of RNG, just a bit!!
lindenkron
OG
Eliot said:Indeed with 100% crusader uptime it's hard for any class to beat a paladin.
The 100% uptime equaled 10 crusader strikes in a row (in a row being before buff ran off). Was quite funny (for me atleast).