At Last, Arathi Basin Victory in 5.05!
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Celestys
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Alpha, I played with and against him unlike you 
You don't need to start giving me lessons about skilled players nor objective games. If you read my post again you'll see that my exact words were : "Well tbh Sfritz is neither a skilled player nor objective in any way". Skilled =/ good, imo. So about that, I totally agree with you He is a good player, more appreciated on his pala than his other chars.
Now about the objective part, I have my own reasons to say that since I played some BGs against him. And to be clear, my opinion about his objectivity has nothing to do with him leaving BGs on a regular basis. This is only a plus
Malanior, I have nothing personal against you but I suggest taking this into consideration : If you want your team to respect you, show them some respect. Also, you won't convince someone to improve their play style by being rude in any way
You don't need to start giving me lessons about skilled players nor objective games. If you read my post again you'll see that my exact words were : "Well tbh Sfritz is neither a skilled player nor objective in any way". Skilled =/ good, imo. So about that, I totally agree with you He is a good player, more appreciated on his pala than his other chars. Now about the objective part, I have my own reasons to say that since I played some BGs against him. And to be clear, my opinion about his objectivity has nothing to do with him leaving BGs on a regular basis. This is only a plus
Malanior, I have nothing personal against you but I suggest taking this into consideration : If you want your team to respect you, show them some respect. Also, you won't convince someone to improve their play style by being rude in any way
billymáys
Legend
Yeh but as AB is still flag capping/objective based, more often Alliance zergs around hopelessly rather than defend or all zerg to one flag. At least Mas tries to draw pressure away by capping/assulting points away from the pandemonium. Too many times when Alliance have numbers at flags, everyone carries on fighting rather than capping - then we wonder why we lose all the time.
Rina
Legend
l30t53dd6p
OG
He is playing his 90. Not seen him switch to a twink sinse mop haha
Malanior
Legend
This is the silliest and more frustrated post ever ^.^ You don't need 24 to win an AB. As I already told you need as much ppl as possible focused at reaching a goal and this means doing dmg or healing (if one can) or capping a flag at the right moment and cohordination among them. A retarded that tries to cap flag while a whole opposite faction is AoEing flag spot is as useless as any stealthed afker or gy camper. Just to say... "24s? Or 5 man premades?" much better fighting vs 5man premade of24s in ally
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Can you recognize these guys? If you don't, go search them on armory, that was a proud day for horde f2p and games like this happen often.
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Björke
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Regarding Moonseeker, I think he started playing his p2p account now
Nah ok too bad, but I guess there are more of those one knows from "the old days", that have left the bracket : /
billymáys
Legend
He is playing his 90. Not seen him switch to a twink sinse mop haha
Phew.
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Masara
Legend
I can't honestly say that I've done much carrying recently, what with some changes to the game and my current lack of a decent connection. I get the impression that the Horde still has significantly higher 24 ratio and the Alliance has lost more decent P2Ps, but I can't cite any hard evidence.
I find it interesting that I don't seem to be able to do what my character was designed to do in Arathi any more, which is operate behind Horde lines and capture bases when the opportunity presents itself. I think that's partly down to the dearth of good, experienced Alliance guys much of the time, and partly the transition of Mas from vaguely feral to guardian semi-tank - I just find it all too easy to stand at a flag and try to capture it because I know that I'll survive longer than I used to, instead of running and trying somewhere else - of course, it may just be that more Horde-types are wise to me.
My wins in AB have plummeted. For the first few months I had something like 80% wins. Then after a while, I averaged out at around 60% for a good long time. I haven't even looked recently, but I know it's sunk. yes, i fully accept that playing as part of a good team I can do my job better - it was always a pleasure to watch unsuspecting guards being led away by our attack so I could grab the base. But don't try to pretend that losses are all down to me, or that I never heal. Making things up doesn't help anyone.
The only games I ever get 0 heals and 0 damage is when we thrash people 3-0 in WSG. Which still happens occasionally.
I find it interesting that I don't seem to be able to do what my character was designed to do in Arathi any more, which is operate behind Horde lines and capture bases when the opportunity presents itself. I think that's partly down to the dearth of good, experienced Alliance guys much of the time, and partly the transition of Mas from vaguely feral to guardian semi-tank - I just find it all too easy to stand at a flag and try to capture it because I know that I'll survive longer than I used to, instead of running and trying somewhere else - of course, it may just be that more Horde-types are wise to me.
My wins in AB have plummeted. For the first few months I had something like 80% wins. Then after a while, I averaged out at around 60% for a good long time. I haven't even looked recently, but I know it's sunk. yes, i fully accept that playing as part of a good team I can do my job better - it was always a pleasure to watch unsuspecting guards being led away by our attack so I could grab the base. But don't try to pretend that losses are all down to me, or that I never heal. Making things up doesn't help anyone.
The only games I ever get 0 heals and 0 damage is when we thrash people 3-0 in WSG. Which still happens occasionally.
Kilda
OG
Well tbh Sfritz is neither a skilled player nor objective in any way
Regarding Moonseeker, I think he started playing his p2p account now
Definitely objective focussed if his objective is throwing his toys out the pram..
Alphasky, our definitions of skill/objective focus are very different it seems. I have a screeny of you leaving AB one time, which caused us to lose with 1590.
I believe 'objective focus' really does say a lot about a players skill... So where's the skill when you simply quit, and lose the game for everyone else?
Alphasky
Legend
Definitely objective focussed if his objective is throwing his toys out the pram..
Alphasky, our definitions of skill/objective focus are very different it seems. I have a screeny of you leaving AB one time, which caused us to lose with 1590.
I believe 'objective focus' really does say a lot about a players skill... So where's the skill when you simply quit, and lose the game for everyone else?
Oh i'm sry, am i suppose to defend Sfritz or myself now seing i leave 1/500 games?........you see i'm a bit confused because :
First of all each and everyone of us ( this includes you two ) has left the game on ocation, some more/some less
That AB you speak of,it was lost due to bad play ,not cause 1 out of 15 ppl left-BUT BECAUSE 15 ppl weren't giving their best and it wasn't some close call due to balanced teams,rather then half of the team sucked and were playing like retards ( as usual ) ..........you should know this.........
Also leaving a BG has nothing to do with one's skill.........those are two diff things
Because leaving when you put so much effort and the majority ins't, speaks for itself.
''Lose the game for everyone else ''...really ? so the others were doing what exactly ?
And a big LOL to your pointing any fingers by having one screen shot of me or someone else leaving a BG................wow !..excuse me a bit, am lmao right now...
But seriously now,how many thousands of honor points we have made for so many scrubs/idiots/famers with our efforts alone,who is any of you to be calling out my name when the ppl that play with/against me know how much effort i put into the game ?
Another thing....who are you Kilda especially to be calling me out with words like skill/objective play/focus ?...i suggest you first do your homework and take a glance at my stats before you end up bullshiting me !
One more thing,do tell how do you know if i really did leave/had a DC/had to go in RL..... or rage quitted ?
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Kenzillax
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one person cant win or losse game..its all about teamplay and if u know how to play dem BGs u dont even need to be pro-gamer or skill capped to win. u're pointing out skill less or skill full players but in the end it doesn't matter in this bracket.. wake up. If you have nice setup and communicative ppl in group u can win even with noobs and undergeared twinks. Also..when u play with the better players u should try to do your best and act competitive and that is winning the gaimz aswell. stahp crying around or trash talking other players for w/e. just enjoy the game and oppurtunity that we can play for free..nuff said
Holypowah
Is a noob
. Tell that to Chuck Norris. I'll bring flowers to your funeral.
Kilda
OG
Alpha, don't jump to conlcusions. I made a mistake in the last post where I say 'where is the skill?' when you leave a BG, but what I meant was 'where is the focus?' when you leave. Objectives focus cannot be your priority when you can willingly leave good games.
I see in many games you get frustrated, and say sarcastic comments, I can only imagine this is because you are angry and upset at people disobeying your orders. We were all the same at one point, you just have to learn to chill. I've played countless great games with/against you, I meant no disrespect calling you out.
As for why you? Well in previous posts you defended AFKing from games, saying we all do it, it happens to the best of us.... Well you can talk for many, but not for all. That day you left AB after we were winning vs 9 hunters.. It showed a different side to you, you know? What does that say about objective focus - was my original point. The fact we lost 1590 was adding insult to injury.
This is how I guess u rage quitted
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But anyway, I hear you, we all have bad days. So lets hope for less of those.
- Broken fingers etc.
I see in many games you get frustrated, and say sarcastic comments, I can only imagine this is because you are angry and upset at people disobeying your orders. We were all the same at one point, you just have to learn to chill. I've played countless great games with/against you, I meant no disrespect calling you out.
As for why you? Well in previous posts you defended AFKing from games, saying we all do it, it happens to the best of us.... Well you can talk for many, but not for all. That day you left AB after we were winning vs 9 hunters.. It showed a different side to you, you know? What does that say about objective focus - was my original point. The fact we lost 1590 was adding insult to injury.
This is how I guess u rage quitted
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But anyway, I hear you, we all have bad days. So lets hope for less of those.
- Broken fingers etc.
Billyballo
Legend
First thing: never trust the Space goat Billy, Never!^^
Second and last thing: Alpha > world.
Just because he played all cataclysm as warrior in a hunter world with normally half horde teams having less than 800 hp.
- "Billy, don't stop healing ppl in the middle, or I have to stop too and can't go for flag" cit. Alpha, september 2011 (or myabe october).
Now you are gonna say that flag isn't an object.
Ps: in an AB game where half of the team just zerg following the 24s (like was happening in that game probably as in the first screenshot he said to stop following you) I do normally leave too, because they just leave me alone defending a base waiting to be overrun by some sneaky ally.
Yeah, you know who I'm talking to, sneaky elves.
as always, sorry for my "Inglese maccheronico".
Second and last thing: Alpha > world.
Just because he played all cataclysm as warrior in a hunter world with normally half horde teams having less than 800 hp.
- "Billy, don't stop healing ppl in the middle, or I have to stop too and can't go for flag" cit. Alpha, september 2011 (or myabe october).
Now you are gonna say that flag isn't an object.
Ps: in an AB game where half of the team just zerg following the 24s (like was happening in that game probably as in the first screenshot he said to stop following you) I do normally leave too, because they just leave me alone defending a base waiting to be overrun by some sneaky ally.
Yeah, you know who I'm talking to, sneaky elves.
as always, sorry for my "Inglese maccheronico".
Malanior
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