Are shadowfang and gloom bis at 29?

willix said:
I've been twinking for the majority of my time playing Wow. I've yet to come across anyone actually using Sfang or Gloomshroud at 29 and being a good player, let alone beating me with them.

Also, it stands to reason that an item with more stats is better than an item with less stats. BoAs have more stats, and therefore, are better than non BoAs. Glass cannon is pointless and people who argue in favor of it are retarded (or lazy). 'Play style' is how you use your abilities compared to other people of the same spec. It's not choosing one piece of gear over another.

Calling me an idiot when you don't know me is a surefire way to make yourself look like an idiot.
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The 1 Ring - Item - World of Warcraft confirmed BiS, gives 20 in total stats
 
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Yapah said:
The 1 Ring - Item - World of Warcraft confirmed BiS, gives 20 in total stats
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Example the 1 ring for a feral/BM or Ww monk/hunter/rogue or any agility class would only gain agi and stam. The strength/int/spirit would greyed out.

ret pally or warrior the ring would give strength and stam. The spirit/agility/ int would be greyed out.

Most stats given would be to any healer or boomy/Ele shaman , the ring would only give Int/stam/spirit and of course Gail and strength would be greyed out. Which would be huge to shamans and boomies back in the day when spirit gave to hit. Which it doesn't so many rings are a better choice now than The 1 ring. IMO

if the ring had haste in it then it be way better to a lot of classes since haste wouldn't be greyed out to any class.
 
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willix said:
I've been twinking for the majority of my time playing Wow. I've yet to come across anyone actually using Sfang or Gloomshroud at 29 and being a good player, let alone beating me with them.

Also, it stands to reason that an item with more stats is better than an item with less stats. BoAs have more stats, and therefore, are better than non BoAs. Glass cannon is pointless and people who argue in favor of it are retarded (or lazy). 'Play style' is how you use your abilities compared to other people of the same spec. It's not choosing one piece of gear over another.

Calling me an idiot when you don't know me is a surefire way to make yourself look like an idiot.
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How many 29 rogues have you encountered? Has there been a single good rogue that you have come across in your eyes?

I guess your former guild mate Luplis is not a good player from your point of view.


Play style is influenced by multiple factors, which includes spec AND gear. You do not carry the same play style with a glass cannon set that you would with a balanced set, obviously...


I'm not sure why I even try to talk sense to you though... You don't even consider Skullbreaker a better weapon than BoA...


It's really not a surefire way for Felfiend to make himself look like an idiot... You have posted opinions on these types of matters before that do not follow the current understanding of the math and meta of the game. This is why you've come to be considered a joke when it comes to these types of discussions.


I can understand a difference in opinion on what constitutes BiS or not, or whether glass cannon is useful or not; but when something has been mathematically proven to be true and you still argue against it with little to no evidence to the contrary... Those are the types of things that will make you look like an idiot, and subsequently a joke to the forums.
 
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Glass cannon is bad because you give up this thing called survivability. Doing a ton of damage means very little in the grand scheme of things when you factor in competent healers and battleground objectives. I've known a couple different players who go completely glass cannon all the time and they get shit on by anyone with a modicum of skill. I've said it before, if all you want to do is own noobs in random BGs, glass cannon works. But most of us care about skilled fights, where our mettle is tested. Glass cannon loses against competent players.

It always has.

If you think BiS means stacking a bunch of agility and calling it a day, well then you're lost as fuck. Every one of my twinks are BiS and none of them are glass cannon. I can also hold my own in both arenas and BGs, while being an effective player for my team. I live long enough to matter. Not sure why I bother trying to teach you kids anything, you're stuck in 2007.
 
pretty sure max mong agi is bis, just lurk and kill people already low and then just harass efc/healers with saps and explosive burst.... also dont forget to speedpot on cooldown.
 
you can use gloom and sf and not be a glasscannon lol, it really isnt hard to make multiple sets either
 
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Max agi is the only way in all rogue specs. The only thing in discussion is secondary stats. Now situational is understandable if efc has a healer or others escorting them and some stam maybe needed to stay alive a tad longer, but that's a personal preference.
 
Honey badger said:
Example the 1 ring for a feral/BM or Ww monk/hunter/rogue or any agility class would only gain agi and stam. The strength/int/spirit would greyed out.

ret pally or warrior the ring would give strength and stam. The spirit/agility/ int would be greyed out.

Most stats given would be to any healer or boomy/Ele shaman , the ring would only give Int/stam/spirit and of course Gail and strength would be greyed out. Which would be huge to shamans and boomies back in the day when spirit gave to hit. Which it doesn't so many rings are a better choice now than The 1 ring. IMO

if the ring had haste in it then it be way better to a lot of classes since haste wouldn't be greyed out to any class.
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Of course The 1 Ring isn't BiS, it was just a response to
Also, it stands to reason that an item with more stats is better than an item with less stats.
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Yapah said:
Of course The 1 Ring isn't BiS, it was just a response to.
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Why would the 1 ring be BiS? There isn't a single class out there that can benefit from str, agi, int, stam, AND spirit.

Wiggz said:
pretty sure max mong agi is bis, just lurk and kill people already low
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Thank you for illustrating my point perfectly. No one sees that guy and goes 'omg wat a skilled player.'

clarification said:
And what kills people against competent healers is damage, not stam stacking.
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No, DPS is what kills people against competent healers, which you need a decent amount of stamina to be capable of doing. You're not going to run in with your 2k HP and kill anything. Your own healers aren't going to save you before you hit the dirt.
 
willix said:
Why would the 1 ring be BiS? There isn't a single class out there that can benefit from str, agi, int, stam, AND spirit.



Thank you for illustrating my point perfectly. No one sees that guy and goes 'omg wat a skilled player.'



No, DPS is what kills people against competent healers, which you need a decent amount of stamina to be capable of doing. You're not going to run in with your 2k HP and kill anything. Your own healers aren't going to save you before you hit the dirt.
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I guess Willix got worried some people might forget that he's an idiot. Gotta refresh the memories.
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