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And a disc priest has not one but TWO instant cast DoTs that puts pressure on the other teams healers. If the other team's shamans were any good they should be dispelling those HoTs which would be taking away time from healing thus helping your team out.
 
And a disc priest has not one but TWO instant cast DoTs that puts pressure on the other teams healers. If the other team's shamans were any good they should be dispelling those HoTs which would be taking away time from healing thus helping your team out.
If you, in a premade situation, is in range of the enemy healers as priest, either they or you are doing something wrog.
 
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I would hope the DPS is in range of the healer. Both your enemy and team. If not, they both are "doing it wrong".

Your direct post stated that "a disc priest has not one but TWO instant cast DoTs that puts pressure on the other teams healers" which one could interpret as a disc actually attacking the enemy heals. Since a disc tossing out SWP's and HF's does not really put pressure on the enemy healers, rather on their dps, it is easy to read your comment literally. Snack pointed out that if you are a disc and are in range of the enemy healers, someone is messing up.

You might want to clarify next time :p
 
Your direct post stated that "a disc priest has not one but TWO instant cast DoTs that puts pressure on the other teams healers" which one could interpret as a disc actually attacking the enemy heals. Since a disc tossing out SWP's and HF's does not really put pressure on the enemy healers, rather on their dps, it is easy to read your comment literally. Snack pointed out that if you are a disc and are in range of the enemy healers, someone is messing up.

You might want to clarify next time :p

I should not need to clarify.
It puts pressure on the other team's healers to heal the damage done by the DoTs. Said priest does not need to attack the healer directly. Anyone in range is sufficient to put "pressure" on the opposing teams healers.
Any healer that has an instant cast DoT should be casting it when they have free time. It does two things. One they do damage. Two, itmakes any decent healer on the opposing team burn a dispel CD.
 
I should not need to clarify.
It puts pressure on the other team's healers to heal the damage done by the DoTs. Said priest does not need to attack the healer directly. Anyone in range is sufficient to put "pressure" on the opposing teams healers.
Any healer that has an instant cast DoT should be casting it when they have free time. It does two things. One they do damage. Two, itmakes any decent healer on the opposing team burn a dispel CD.
The only scenario I can see where a dpriest should use offensive abilities in a premade situation, is if you are pushing the enemy team back to their GY, and your team is taking close to 0 dmg. Otherwise you should always be busy healing, since you by far are the main healer.
 
Well then, that means that healer is assigned as a "raid heal" as I mentioned earlier. Which would mean that heal should in fact have the largest total heals if you are "by far" the main healer.
Which validates my point, and others I might add. The default BG meter is not really a good measuring tool to use to judge as to whom is a "good healer".
 
Well then, that means that healer is assigned as a "raid heal" as I mentioned earlier. Which would mean that heal should in fact have the largest total heals if you are "by far" the main healer.
Which validates my point, and others I might add. The default BG meter is not really a good measuring tool to use to judge as to whom is a "good healer".

I am not sure how many premades you have healed recently, but I can assure you that your three healers do not have static duties the entire game. It's not like a teams gamelan going into a match is:
"Ok healers, there are three of you. Mistweaver, you are the raid healer, because enveloping and yeah. Just heal the raid. Disc priest, you can burst a ton of quick hps with flash heal > penance, your job is to spam heals on the bm monk, because frontline. Hey shaman, don't worry about healing much, just dispel off cooldown, on random targets, cuz hey, you are mitigating damage."
That just doesn't happen. The healers react according to the situation, cycling between raid healing, single target healing on frontliners/fc, and offensive pressure on offensive pushes (when the other team it's down a few major dps).
The key is to be flexible, and make the right calls/switches at the right time. If you can peel out and catch your fc when none of your other healers can, you do it.

The only two minor exceptions are having one shaman focus on dispel/purge spamming, or a very offensive disc priest that a certain team played in the tc.
 
Well then, that means that healer is assigned as a "raid heal" as I mentioned earlier. Which would mean that heal should in fact have the largest total heals if you are "by far" the main healer.
Which validates my point, and others I might add. The default BG meter is not really a good measuring tool to use to judge as to whom is a "good healer".
By main healer I meant that disc priests are the class able to do the most healig @19 atm. So I guess that kinda invalidates your argument..
 
Of coarse the role is dynamic.
I would certainly hope that each DPS is given assignments as well.
In a premade situation the lead can/should divide the raid up by groups and assign heals to groups initially.
He/she could be also dividing the raid frames up as well. There are many ways to conduct a group in a "premade situation". All these sitiuations are hypothetical.

As I have stated, and as have others. The default Blizzard meters are not a good measuring tool to measure anyone's ability to be "bad" or "good".
This has nothing to do about me or anyone...
 
By main healer I meant that disc priests are the class able to do the most healig @19 atm. So I guess that kinda invalidates your argument..

What arguement??
That healing meters are a bad tool?
How does a disc healer being the "best healer" invalidate that? It is a bad measurement tool...
Discs can't dispel. They can't interrupt. The default meter does not see that.
My arguement isn't against priests. Yours may be. Mine is not.
 
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Of coarse the role is dynamic.
I would certainly hope that each DPS is given assignments as well.
In a premade situation the lead can/should divide the raid up by groups and assign heals to groups initially.
He/she could be also dividing the raid frames up as well. There are many ways to conduct a group in a "premade situation". All these sitiuations are hypothetical.
You really shouldn't; for for instance priest bubbled are a crucial way to prevent one-shots, and most teams are playing with only 1 priest. Assigning that priest to for instance group 1 would make group 2 vulnerable. So no, you should not assign healers to groups.

As I have stated, and as have others. The default Blizzard meters are not a good measuring tool to measure anyone's ability to be "bad" or "good".
This has nothing to do about me or anyone...
I think we all agree on this, no need to repeat yourself.
 
What arguement??
That healing meters are a bad tool?
How does a disc healer being the "best healer" invalidate that? It is a bad measurement tool...
Discs can't dispel. They can't interrupt. The default meter does not see that.
My arguement isn't against priests. Yours may be. Mine is not.
Your argument that the assigned priest was a "raid healer", you assumed that because I said that they were the main healer, with which I simply meant that they are the healing class with the best heals @19
 
No, my point is and others agree, is that....
The default Blizzard meters are not a good measurement tool to judge someone's performance.
I really do not know how many times I have typed it. I am sure it has been over five times.
You turned it into an debate about priests. I keep trying to tell you that. I believe this is the third time now.
Have a wonderful day.
 
No, my point is and others agree, is that....
The default Blizzard meters are not a good measurement tool to judge someone's performance.
I really do not know how many times I have typed it. I am sure it has been over five times.
And I will post yet again for you then:
I think we all agree on this, no need to repeat yourself.
You turned it into an debate about priests. I keep trying to tell you that. I believe this is the third time now.
Have a wonderful day.
Stop fooling yourself: you made this post
How many dispels/purges, CCs and interupts did each of those have? A true "good" multi-dimensional healer does all of those, not simply spam heal spells. Anyone can do that. Were either of those assigned to a solo heal assignment? You can just go by healing charts. Anyone can "pad the charts" and be number one in heals or damage. We should start linking dispels SS more if we want to see who the truely "good" players are.


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and I merely stated that only 1 healer has purges and interrupts, and thus measuring how a healer fares in the gulch based on numbers of purges and shears, will give a twisted result as well. You then managed to turn it into a pointless argument, so let's be mature and stop it here.
 
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Well then, that means that healer is assigned as a "raid heal" as I mentioned earlier. Which would mean that heal should in fact have the largest total heals if you are "by far" the main healer.
Which validates my point, and others I might add. The default BG meter is not really a good measuring tool to use to judge as to whom is a "good healer".

No, In pvp good healers predict burst and sustained healing on dots is irrelevant.
Hence their total scoreboard heals doesn't matter if all they're doing is bubbling people on cd instead of bubbling people as burst comes in

Sometimes I question if you even read people's replies to you
 
No, In pvp good healers predict burst and sustained healing on dots is irrelevant.
Hence their total scoreboard heals doesn't matter if all they're doing is bubbling people on cd instead of bubbling people as burst comes in

Sometimes I question if you even read people's replies to you

Apparently you don't read replies either...
For the FINAL TIME. This is not about priests. It is about how terrible the default Blizzard meters are for measuring a player's performance.
Sheesh... What is so hard to understand about that? This thread is not about priests it is about a rating that someone "sort of" based on Blizzards default meters.
 
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