Goesid
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Thats why i also said germanics. Irrc the first german reich (aka holy roman empire) lasted for quite some time
>Roman Empire
>Byzantine empire(4th crusade)
>30 years war
>ww1
>ww2
I count at least 5 times now
there is alot of minor things like karl marx+lenin(communism), northern crusades, teutonic order(b..but muh polish pomerania), hitlers 12 years in power now also make it impossible to be a nationalist in any western country since it discredits any form of nationalism...unless you want to be seen as a fringe nazi lunatic etc,etc
The roman empire and the byzantine empire is not same thing as the holy roman empire. The holy roman empire also wasnt an actual state.